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csb510 09-11-2013 09:25 PM

Re: Poison spyder bumper issue
 
What kind of magnet did you use? There are a couple of magnet types that comes to mind that I would try out:

1) Go to your local hardware store and check out the catch magnets. They are used to prevent cabinet doors from swinging out on their own. They come with a metal plate and magnet. I think they go for about $1 each. Downside they aren't really that strong. Maybe grab pair just to double up the effect.

or

2) Get a magnetic aquarium glass cleaner. These are very strong as they designed to hold up a magnet on the outside of 3/8" thick glass. I assume you may not need to take the actual magnet out of the plastic housing to make it effective. The only downside to these are the can be pricey over $20 in some cases.

Elmo 09-11-2013 09:36 PM

Re: Poison spyder bumper issue
 
I used a small round neodymium magnets. It came in a six pack from Harbor Freight for $3. I'm going to let the CA dry overnight before I test it.

csb510 09-11-2013 09:48 PM

Re: Poison spyder bumper issue
 
Oh ok. You should be better off since neodymium magnets are stronger than the ones I mentioned.

Elmo 09-12-2013 02:06 PM

Re: Poison spyder bumper issue
 
The magnet idea was a fail. Even the neodymium magnet couldn't hold the tire carrier close to the body. I noticed that the plastic on the poison spyder bumper is much softer than the stock dingo bumper. If the new bumper was molded from a more reinforced nylon blend it may hold up to the tires weight better. For now I am still trying to find a way to brace the carrier that will allow the swing out tire function to still operate.

Elmo 09-14-2013 08:52 AM

Re: Poison spyder bumper issue
 
Im stumped on this problem. I fear that i may have to build a brace to connect the bumper ro the frame similar to what Buster had before. I am not too keen on that idea since the brace ia visible once the bumper is installed. Is there anything that can be done to stiffen up the bumper, including the mounting posts?

stevetate12 09-14-2013 09:15 AM

I know money doesn't grow on trees but rc4wd makes a metal one that will most likely work better......seems like.this is a symptom of it being plastic....so the 2 options would be spend time engineering a solution or buy a metal one that doesn't sag


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tozrovr 09-14-2013 09:23 AM

Re: Poison spyder bumper issue
 
Just drill a hole in the body. That is how it is on the JK kits and I know it sounds nuts, but you're really never going to be using the tire carrier in the open position. Ever. You may for a photo or two but that's it. Mount it semi permanently and then you only need to open it when the body comes off.

dwblue00 09-14-2013 10:19 AM

Re: Poison spyder bumper issue
 
You could try to attach a tube to the body that has a inside diameter just larger than the tire carrier. Then tap 1 side and attach to body, while drilling 1 hole for body clip to attach to the tire carrier. Maybe reinforce the body with a piece of lexan in that area. Shoe goo works great for that!"thumbsup"

Elmo 09-15-2013 08:18 PM

Re: Poison spyder bumper issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tozrovr (Post 4477771)
Just drill a hole in the body. That is how it is on the JK kits and I know it sounds nuts, but you're really never going to be using the tire carrier in the open position. Ever. You may for a photo or two but that's it. Mount it semi permanently and then you only need to open it when the body comes off.

I woulg go this route (and did on my clod bodied mud truck) but since the bumper mounts to the frame rails and not to the body, i don't want to have to disassemble the carrier each time the body comes off for a battery change or maintenance. it worked great on my mud truck though. Thanks for the tip.

Demodude 09-16-2013 03:48 PM

Re: Poison spyder bumper issue
 
Ok, I just mounted my tire and I had a tiny bit of sag so I took the little adjustable post thingy that came with my bumper set-up and cut a notch out of it. Then mounted that to my body. Now when the bumper tire carrier is closed I just snap the piece on my body onto the head of the screw that holds the tire on, I just leave enough room for it to snap over the screw: Here is a video:
Demo's axial scx10 honcho / bronco build #4 - YouTube

The info is at 1:00

Demodude 09-16-2013 03:51 PM

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Demodude 09-16-2013 03:53 PM

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Demodude 09-16-2013 04:32 PM

Re: Poison spyder bumper issue
 
Ok, after running this ^ around for a while it's not really a soulution. Trailing it's fine but getting into the rough it can come loose. Maybe if I made the cut lower it would hold better....

Elmo 09-17-2013 09:11 PM

Re: Poison spyder bumper issue
 
Demodude, i like that mount. Is it available on the same parts tree as the bumper?

Demodude 09-17-2013 09:32 PM

Re: Poison spyder bumper issue
 
I got the bumper from a member already put together so I'm not sure. Maybe someone can chime in on that. The portion that goes into the drilled hole has a hole for a body clip. I've tightened things up a bit and it seems to be working just fine

tozrovr 09-20-2013 10:12 AM

Re: Poison spyder bumper issue
 
Well done!

Elmo 09-23-2013 07:14 PM

Re: Poison spyder bumper issue
 
I tried doubling up the magnets but they are still too weak. I may try to fab an aluminum brace after my hand heals and my cast comes off. Broke my fifth metacarpal in half and broke the bone on the side of my hand in nine places. They call it a boxer's fracture.

DudeWalker 09-23-2013 07:38 PM

Re: Poison spyder bumper issue
 
OMG...

Ream a hole in the rear body panel or window. Screw the spare to the body using the existing hardware. Take the swing arm off the bumper. Now you can lift the body off normally and the spare is that much closer to the COG of the truck. 8)

Elmo 09-30-2013 07:44 PM

Re: Poison spyder bumper issue
 
Well i see the orthopedist tomorrow for more xrays and to see if the cast can come off. Hopefully i can get some work done on Buster by this weekend. I really want to get him running and get some pics as the leaves fall.

Elmo 10-01-2013 07:23 PM

Re: Poison spyder bumper issue
 
Unfortunately im still in a cast for another 3 weeks. Xrays showed that the fractures are healing, but they are still brooken. I may try to use one magnet epoxied to the carrier in conjunction with the one on the body to get a stronger hold between the two. If that doesnt work then i will look into hard mounting the carrier, but i really want to keep its functiomality if at all possible.


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