87T Steel Spur

[JatoTheRipper]

What options do we have for 87 tooth steel spur gears for the SCX10?

Thanks.

[winnerone23]

Originally Posted by JatoTheRipper

What options do we have for 87 tooth steel spur gears for the SCX10?

Thanks.

Why the need for steel?

Let's discuss it..

You'll be buying a plastic 32p spur and a metal 32p pinion, by the end of conversation.

[JatoTheRipper]

Originally Posted by winnerone23

Why the need for steel?

Let's discuss it..

You'll be buying a plastic 32p spur and a metal 32p pinion, by the end of conversation.

No, thank you. I'll stick to 48P.

Now back to the topic, please.

[TacoCrawler]

assuming 48 pitch ?

Hot Racing...



GPM - ebay... (there are other listings incl. helical cut teeth)



...likely others available as well

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or you could switch to running 32 pitch instead

Pro: fewer teeth, stronger indivd. teeth, deeper mesh engagement, easier to set mesh, less prone to stripping/breaking.

Con: tends to be louder, can cut thru electrical wires easier if left exposed.

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Steel is stronger and wears longer then aluminum spurs.
The additional weight is negligible and more advantageous for a slow mo crawler that uses torque.

For higher speeds... aluminum or delrin offer an advantage in rpm.

[winnerone23]

Originally Posted by TacoCrawler

or you could switch to running 32 pitch instead

Pro: fewer teeth, stronger indivd. teeth, deeper mesh engagement, easier to set mesh, less prone to stripping/breaking.

Con: tends to be louder, can cut thru electrical wires easier if left exposed.

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Steel is stronger and wears longer then aluminum spurs.
The additional weight is negligible and more advantageous for a slow mo crawler that uses torque.

For higher speeds... aluminum or delrin offer an advantage in rpm.

I would have to disagree, on the 32p being a louder setup, then metal on metal (48p).
I don't run 48p anything, anymore. The only tell, that my rigs are even moving, is watching them move or the noise from a uni or MIP, that hasn't been lubed.

I'm mainly a crawler. Not a scaler.. but I have a rig for every class(7 classes) in our hobby. Plus my son's few and my daughter's mini.

My scalers all run brushless HH and 4s.. my scx is an animal, at 26mph or dead slow/Max torque crawling.
My C3 Sexo, is easily a 30mph monster and snaps a speed on, in a heart beat.

When strength is your end game.. it's everything else, in the drive line.
The 32p spur is a cheap and easy replacement.
But in my experience, still stronger then the HD axle gears. I have had more of them strip then a bad spur gear.
Brushed 3s and brushless 4s..

Just my experience..

[TacoCrawler]

Originally Posted by winnerone23

I would have to disagree, on the 32p being a louder setup, then metal on metal (48p).
I don't run 48p anything, anymore. The only tell, that my rigs are even moving, is watching them move or the noise from a uni or MIP, that hasn't been lubed.

I'm mainly a crawler. Not a scaler.. but I have a rig for every class(7 classes) in our hobby. Plus my son's few and my daughter's mini.

My scalers all run brushless HH and 4s.. my scx is an animal, at 26mph or dead slow/Max torque crawling.
My C3 Sexo, is easily a 30mph monster and snaps a speed on, in a heart beat.

When strength is your end game.. it's everything else, in the drive line.
The 32p spur is a cheap and easy replacement.
But in my experience, still stronger then the HD axle gears. I have had more of them strip then a bad spur gear.
Brushed 3s and brushless 4s..

Just my experience..

I've no problem with you stating your opinion.

But why would you quote me and denounce mine ?
You act as if yours is the only opinion.

Yer entitled to disagree with my opinion.
But my experience is mine...
and no matter what your opinion... it doesn't change my experience.

That said...

I still run a plastic spur... because it's an inexpensive link...
if something has to fail.
Beefing up one component... generally just shifts the weak point to somewhere else.

Beside throwing in your $ .02 worth of opinion and denouncing mine...

Why didn't you answer the OP's inquiry ?

He wanted to know what mfgr's offer a 48P 87T steel spur gear.

Seems a simple enough inquiry to me.

[winnerone23]

Originally Posted by TacoCrawler

I've no problem with you stating your opinion.

But why would you quote me and denounce mine ?
You act as if yours is the only opinion.

Yer entitled to disagree with my opinion.
But my experience is mine...
and no matter what your opinion... it doesn't change my experience.

That said...

I still run a plastic spur... because it's an inexpensive link...
if something has to fail.
Beefing up one component... generally just shifts the weak point to somewhere else.

Beside throwing in your $ .02 worth of opinion and denouncing mine...

Why didn't you answer the OP's inquiry ?

He wanted to know what mfgr's offer a 48P 87T steel spur gear.

Seems a simple enough inquiry to me.

I quoted you, cause I liked what you posted.
It was just the one thing, that I mentioned, about it being louder.

And I use tapacrap, and I don't always get notifications, unless I'm quoted.

And again, like you stated and I stated.. a plastic spur is the way to go. Because of why you posted.

I think our experience's are both saying the same thing.

As for manufacturer's. There are a few that do steel spurs.. costly and heavy, other then the HR.
Like Robinson and supershafty..
Loud and noisy..

It's not always about, just answering the OP..
Knowing background and ideas, normally leads to a better end result, for the OP and future/other readers.

[TacoCrawler]

Originally Posted by winnerone23

It's not always about, just answering the OP..
Knowing background and ideas, normally leads to a better end result, for the OP and future/other readers.

so you say... but the OP said...

Originally Posted by JatoTheRipper

No, thank you. I'll stick to 48P.

Now back to the topic, please.

in response to...

Originally Posted by winnerone23

Why the need for steel?

Let's discuss it..

You'll be buying a plastic 32p spur and a metal 32p pinion, by the end of conversation.

didn't seem like he had much interest in opinions
just wanted to know some facts !?

just sayin' ...no hard feelings

[tjohanne]

If the OP doesn't want opinions of any kind, he could also use the search function at Google.com to find what he's looking for.

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[TacoCrawler]

so hospitable you are

Why can't people read the context of a thread...

"What options do we have for 87 tooth steel spur gears for the SCX10?

Thanks."

and see that the OP has nearly 3,200 posts
so they must have some sort of clue.

And accept it for what it is ?
a direct inquiry to what's available.

btw... he asked for options... not opinions

what makes that offensive ?

Sometimes, would seem, it's unfriendly to ask a simple direct question...
and hope for a simple answer. ~ geessh ~

there is a chit chat folder for those idle conversations/arguments of nothingness

[tjohanne]

Originally Posted by TacoCrawler

so hospitable you are
....
Why can't people read the context of a thread..
..
btw... he asked for options... not opinions

what makes that offensive ?

It's not offensive, but you make it sound like OP is just asking others to use the 'search' function FOR him.. If people can't provide their helpful/friendly opinions as well, it feels less rewarding to take part in this..

That being said, I know of a steel spur..
This one.. I bought this set for one of my rigs. Works perfectly so far :
http://www.jazrider.com/axial-racing...-90060194.html

Is it the same as the GPM, maybe?

[winnerone23]

Originally Posted by TacoCrawler

so hospitable you are

Why can't people read the context of a thread...

"What options do we have for 87 tooth steel spur gears for the SCX10?

Thanks."

and see that the OP has nearly 3,200 posts
so they must have some sort of clue.

And accept it for what it is ?
a direct inquiry to what's available.

btw... he asked for options... not opinions

what makes that offensive ?

Sometimes, would seem, it's unfriendly to ask a simple direct question...
and hope for a simple answer. ~ geessh ~

there is a chit chat folder for those idle conversations/arguments of nothingness

With 3200 posts.. the OP should know how this works..
And so should you(with 2600)!
But we all know, posts don't equal knowledge...

This isn't FB!!!
Want a simple answer and someone to do it for you, go there.

Hopefully, this goes in chit chat or the newbie section.. better yet.. erased!
It's a worthless thread..

Good day, sir

[JatoTheRipper]

Originally Posted by TacoCrawler

assuming 48 pitch ?

Hot Racing...



GPM - ebay... (there are other listings incl. helical cut teeth)



...likely others available as well

-------------------------

or you could switch to running 32 pitch instead

Pro: fewer teeth, stronger indivd. teeth, deeper mesh engagement, easier to set mesh, less prone to stripping/breaking.

Con: tends to be louder, can cut thru electrical wires easier if left exposed.

------------------------

Steel is stronger and wears longer then aluminum spurs.
The additional weight is negligible and more advantageous for a slow mo crawler that uses torque.

For higher speeds... aluminum or delrin offer an advantage in rpm.

Thanks for giving the only helpful response!

I did search for 87T, 48P steel spur gears. I only found this HR gear and a Robinson Racing version. The RR was too expensive IMO. The issue with the HR gear is that it has an oddly shaped recess for the slipper pad. And I couldn't find a pad with that shape. Do you know if the Axial pad will fit this gear?

[351Beno]

https://www.amazon.com/ECX-Slipper-A...YVNF6PAGA074QN

I don't think the axial pads will fit unless you cut them.
I see hr only lists aluminum 86-88-89t spurs for 48p axial.

[JatoTheRipper]

Originally Posted by 351Beno

https://www.amazon.com/ECX-Slipper-A...YVNF6PAGA074QN

I don't think the axial pads will fit unless you cut them.
I see hr only lists aluminum 86-88-89t spurs for 48p axial.

Thanks. I should be able to use that slipper pad on an SCX10.

[JatoTheRipper]

Originally Posted by tjohanne

If the OP doesn't want opinions of any kind, he could also use the search function at Google.com to find what he's looking for.

I didn't ask for opinions of 32P vs 48P. I prefer 48P. It's smoother and strong enough for an SCX10.

I searched Google and I looked before posting.

I asked a simple question. If you couldn't answer that then why bother posting? You posting useless responses is more clutter on this site than my simple questions and simple responses.

Originally Posted by winnerone23

With 3200 posts.. the OP should know how this works..
And so should you(with 2600)!
But we all know, posts don't equal knowledge...

This isn't FB!!!
Want a simple answer and someone to do it for you, go there.

Hopefully, this goes in chit chat or the newbie section.. better yet.. erased!
It's a worthless thread..

Good day, sir

I have no idea what your problem is. You, and your almost 8,000 posts should know to stay on topic. You gave your opinion. I kindly said I didn't want 32P gears. I'm sorry you couldn't handle the rejection, snowflake.

Like you said, post count doesn't equal knowledge. I've only been in RC for about 30 years and a mechanical engineer for 10 years.

This thread was not useless until you chimed in.

[tjohanne]

Originally Posted by JatoTheRipper

I asked a simple question. If you couldn't answer that then why bother posting? You posting useless responses is more clutter on this site than my simple questions and simple responses.

I wasn't complaining about your question, but the idea the other guy proposed, that it is somehow an offense to provide own opinions in a thread like this. I don't think a forum like this should be governed by fascist rules where you can only speak when spoken to, and otherwise have your opinions censored.
And as I mentioned, there is also that Jazrider metal spur gear..

[scalemadness]

Originally Posted by winnerone23

With 3200 posts.. the OP should know how this works..
And so should you(with 2600)!
But we all know, posts don't equal knowledge...

This isn't FB!!!
Want a simple answer and someone to do it for you, go there.

Hopefully, this goes in chit chat or the newbie section.. better yet.. erased!
It's a worthless thread..

Good day, sir

The OP stated he wanted STEEL options not someones self indulgent ignorant remarks about why? Plastic is better or 32p. Secondly why erase or move a very valid post to chit chat? Because you dont like the post? I am sure this question will benefit more than one member here. Dont let your ignorance and know all tell all attitude ruin valid and good info for others here. Everyone has their opinion but most times it is better kept to themselves unless it has been specifically asked for. I have seen your builds and you have some great innovative rigs but thats neither here nor there. Any how back to the original ? Jatotheripper hotracing,robinson racing come to mind my daughters scx utilizes the RR spur and quite honestly with proper mesh noise increase is questionable to the human ear

[JatoTheRipper]

Originally Posted by tjohanne

I wasn't complaining about your question, but the idea the other guy proposed, that it is somehow an offense to provide own opinions in a thread like this. I don't think a forum like this should be governed by fascist rules where you can only speak when spoken to, and otherwise have your opinions censored.
And as I mentioned, there is also that Jazrider metal spur gear..

I appreciate the link to the Jazrider spur.

Nobody said his response was an offense. I read his response and kindly expressed my preference to stick to 48P gears. How is that offensive? It's more offensive, IMO, to completely disregard the OP of a thread. I've tried 32P gears and use them where I feel that they're necessary. They're not necessary on an SCX10 IMO.

Despite your comment, I did do research before posting this question. I found the HR and RR 87T steel spurs and that was it. Is it so bad that I was asking this question to see if I had missed any since I could not find one specifically for the SCX10 with the hex slipper pad? I already have extra slipper pads so it would be great if I found an 87T steel spur that could use these pads.

Originally Posted by scalemadness

The OP stated he wanted STEEL options not someones self indulgent ignorant remarks about why? Plastic is better or 32p. Secondly why erase or move a very valid post to chit chat? Because you dont like the post? I am sure this question will benefit more than one member here. Dont let your ignorance and know all tell all attitude ruin valid and good info for others here. Everyone has their opinion but most times it is better kept to themselves unless it has been specifically asked for. I have seen your builds and you have some great innovative rigs but thats neither here nor there. Any how back to the original ? Jatotheripper hotracing,robinson racing come to mind my daughters scx utilizes the RR spur and quite honestly with proper mesh noise increase is questionable to the human ear

Thank you and thank you! Are you using the RR spur that came with the round slipper pads and the bearing in the center? Seen here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Robinson-Rac...0AAOSwKfVXLgue

[tjohanne]

Originally Posted by JatoTheRipper

I appreciate the link to the Jazrider spur.

Nobody said his response was an offense. I read his response and kindly expressed my preference to stick to 48P gears. How is that offensive? It's more offensive, IMO, to completely disregard the OP of a thread. I've tried 32P gears and use them where I feel that they're necessary. They're not necessary on an SCX10 IMO.

I have no quarrels with you. I am also on the lookout for good spur gears (or gears in general). I must say it's highly confusing with the Axial gearbox driveshafts and their various lengths, spacers, and which spur gear goes on which spur gear adapter/slipper pads etc. The Jazrider set is a package deal, suspiciously cheap, but at least it goes together well. I have no idea how much abuse it can take, though.

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