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Perkul8r 11-10-2017 03:12 PM

Re: Choosing a motor and ESC for your Wraith - Gearing Added!
 
Anybody use the new Castle Slate 2850kv motor yet? I have the Mamba X and 2850 motor sitting at home and would love to use it if possible. Probably be run on 3s as that’s all I have right now.


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Kinbar 11-10-2017 05:14 PM

Re: Choosing a motor and ESC for your Wraith - Gearing Added!
 
I have the same combo/set-up at home. I need to finish installing it this weekend. If I get time I will get back to you.

mewalsh100 12-08-2017 05:57 AM

Re: Choosing a motor and ESC for your Wraith - Gearing Added!
 
Getting ready to upgrade to a Holmes Hobbies brushless combo set up in my Wraith. I am currently running a a CrawlMaster 13T and the HH BR-XL ESC. 32P 57T spur, 10T pinion. Also running over / under in the axles. 38/13 up front; 43/13 out back. I run 11.1v 3s 35c packs. I know I want a Puller Pro in a standard can and the HH BLE Pro ESC, but waffling back and forth on KV selection for motor. Also, I'm running a Slipper Eliminator from Locked Up RC. If I go to brushless do I need to go back to a slipper? This rig is built up fairly bomb proof as far as drivetrain, but keep seeing lots of comments on slippers???

Also - this is primarily just a fun, recreational rig that I do trailing and crawling with. No comps or rock racing (yet). I'd say the split is 60/40 trail to crawl.

Anyway, appreciate any input on my pending selection. Thanks!

SpaniardCrawler 12-10-2017 09:32 AM

Re: Choosing a motor and ESC for your Wraith - Gearing Added!
 
Hi guys!!!

I’ve stock gears, and a Holmes 27t brushed and I need more power, more speed!! I will try with a 3s lipo but I guess it will not be enough...

I would like a brushless combo as much waterproof as it could be... and It should allows me to crawl a little... What are your suggestions?? Thank you so much!


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Digital 01-01-2018 07:27 PM

Re: Choosing a motor and ESC for your Wraith - Gearing Added!
 
Time to upgrade the Wraith to a Holmes 27T, before I do I just want to make sure I'm doing the right thing here.

I'm under the impression that the stock Spur gear is a 56T 32P, so moving up to a 27T (from a 55T), I would want to purchase a 10T pinion gear to achieve the "5.6:1 pinion to spur ratio"?

If this is correct, where/what do I purchase the pinion gear? Robinson from Towerhobbies?

Thank you.

*EDIT I bought the Robinson 10T from Tower, hopefully I got the right one, hah.

lunchboxmunchy 01-09-2018 10:58 AM

Re: Choosing a motor and ESC for your Wraith - Gearing Added!
 
I have a Wraith "Spawn" kit laying around. I'm going to install a front and rear steer and a two speed transmission. I'm still trying to figure out which motor I want to run. I want the low end to have an insane amount of torque, but want the high end to have enough speed to bash around and take some jumps. Thoughts?

The Dark Knight 01-09-2018 12:57 PM

Re: Choosing a motor and ESC for your Wraith - Gearing Added!
 
Are all the recommendations based on using 2S & 3S lipo?

Alexandros 01-12-2018 10:21 AM

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Hey everyone, I am new to trailing/crawling, just purchased a wraith spawn kit and a friend gave me a brushed 35t motor with an lrp esc to try, as it is stock now I have no issues to keep up with others on really muddy trails, (my comarades are using the gmade gom and scx10's). On some steep climbs where the gmade gom will climb hard I won't, and I feel the car needs more push power. But I get nice speed and crawling ability as I run.
Oh I am running on 2s and I would like to stay brushed.
What would you suggest for upgrading

* gears
*Pinion
*Spur
*Motor
*Esc
*Shocks

Thank you in advance
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mikemcE 01-12-2018 11:18 AM

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Start at 3s, replace parts(most) as needed


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ImDude 02-12-2018 01:17 PM

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Just purchased the Holmes Puller Pro BL 540 Standard 3500kv, the Castle Creations Mamba X ESC. Im running 2S 5000 lipos. MIP drive line and hardened shafts and metal gears in my transmission. Im wanting to be able to crawl , but still want get up and go. Mostly a bouncer. Obviously lve got to continue upgrading. Im wanting to know what gear ratio would be better to achieve this? Yes, ive read a bunch on here, just need some input. Thanks.

allanon1965 02-12-2018 02:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ImDude (Post 5800188)
Just purchased the Holmes Puller Pro BL 540 Standard 3500kv, the Castle Creations Mamba X ESC. Im running 2S 5000 lipos. MIP drive line and hardened shafts and metal gears in my transmission. Im wanting to be able to crawl , but still want get up and go. Mostly a bouncer. Obviously lve got to continue upgrading. Im wanting to know what gear ratio would be better to achieve this? Yes, ive read a bunch on here, just need some input. Thanks.


move up to 3s lipo's and gear to between 5.0:1 and 6.5:1 and you will be able to do all you want crawling and wheel speed on demand.

mikemcE 02-12-2018 04:10 PM

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With the 3500 on 3s you should be able to creep and fly. start at your stock ratio. I’m running a 9/54 and it creeps well, I have lockers front and rear, but a 13t or 14 should make it fly


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ImDude 02-13-2018 08:19 AM

Re: Choosing a motor and ESC for your Wraith - Gearing Added!
 
Thanks guys. Now ive got to find on here how you come up with the ratio.

ImDude 02-18-2018 11:20 AM

Re: Choosing a motor and ESC for your Wraith - Gearing Added!
 
I now have the Puller Pro 540 3500kv and MambaX installed. It will fly in reverse but forward, not so much. It being a sensored motor , i k ow i cant just switch 2 of the wires and fix it. Reversing the radio just makes the cobtrols backwards. I keep reading i need to reverse the motor direction. Some say change the ring gear to the other side on both axels. If i need to reprogram, can someone give me part numbers on what usb wires i need to get? Thanks for any info.

mikemcE 02-18-2018 01:57 PM

Re: Choosing a motor and ESC for your Wraith - Gearing Added!
 
Reverse the motor with your castle link.


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ImDude 02-18-2018 08:29 PM

Re: Choosing a motor and ESC for your Wraith - Gearing Added!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikemcE (Post 5802396)
Reverse the motor with your castle link.


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Is the castle link something else i should have purchased?

Ninomaniac 02-18-2018 10:30 PM

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Yes

mikemcE 02-19-2018 04:37 AM

Choosing a motor and ESC for your Wraith - Gearing Added!
 
Castle link opens up your esc, that is how the aux channel works


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Ong Saputra 06-04-2018 11:51 PM

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hello...
need to ask the opinion for: Holmes Torquemaster Pro 540-35T using ESC SW4 (Sidewinder) by Castle Creation..
any suggestion/advice about my setup?
are they kinda good combo?

TIA..

midship909 03-02-2019 09:34 PM

Re: Choosing a motor and ESC for your Wraith - Gearing Added!
 
hey guys is anyone running a 18.5 brushless on 3s with 56t/16t 32pitch gears? im currently running 12t pinion but want a little more speed

Taper 01-06-2020 04:22 PM

Re: Choosing a motor and ESC for your Wraith - Gearing Added!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ImDude (Post 5802355)
I now have the Puller Pro 540 3500kv and MambaX installed. It will fly in reverse but forward, not so much. It being a sensored motor , i k ow i cant just switch 2 of the wires and fix it. Reversing the radio just makes the cobtrols backwards. I keep reading i need to reverse the motor direction. Some say change the ring gear to the other side on both axels. If i need to reprogram, can someone give me part numbers on what usb wires i need to get? Thanks for any info.

Hi,

Got you a decent drag brake with this combo?


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tjohanne 08-06-2020 09:28 AM

Re: Choosing a motor and ESC for your Wraith - Gearing Added!
 
I suppose I can't really recommend this setup, but it works for me. Only parts I had available:
Axial Vanguard AE-3 ESC
Axial Vanguard 2900kv sensorless motor

I used to run 14t pinion on 56t spur and it was fast. I went down to 11t pinion to ease strain on the motor and get some low speed control. It's still quite fast.
It can't crawl, but it's fun to drive if you like jumping around offroad. I consider running open diffs to make it more of a racer. Then I could probably gear up a bit more.



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Mustang351cca 09-10-2021 06:43 PM

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Ok good question for all the gurus.. I setup my Wraith with a 87/16 s&p with a 4370kv motor setup as it came with an 87 tooth spur when I bought it.. previously I was running a 87/23 ( but thinking it was a factory 80t spur) it was stupid fast with this setup and crawled worth $hit.. now with the 87/16, it crawls not too bad and still has good speed.. Now on to my main question.. I finally got most of my parts in, what would be a good gear for a 3200kv sensored brushless motor with a 2 speed trans that comes with a 60t 32p spur??

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lonleycreeper 12-25-2021 10:23 AM

Re: Choosing a motor and ESC for your Wraith - Gearing Added!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mustang351cca (Post 6092655)
Ok good question for all the gurus.. I setup my Wraith with a 87/16 s&p with a 4370kv motor setup as it came with an 87 tooth spur when I bought it.. previously I was running a 87/23 ( but thinking it was a factory 80t spur) it was stupid fast with this setup and crawled worth $hit.. now with the 87/16, it crawls not too bad and still has good speed.. Now on to my main question.. I finally got most of my parts in, what would be a good gear for a 3200kv sensored brushless motor with a 2 speed trans that comes with a 60t 32p spur??

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Run the stock 12t pinion to start. I have ran as low as 9/60(3000kv 4 pole) with the same gear box, and 13/60 (brushed 27t). The lower gearing really helps with drag brake and slow speed low gear stuff. High gear is plenty fast and I started breaking stuff every time I used it (brushless).

Low in the trans is 5:1 while high is 1.86:1 IIRC.

MrSquiggles 03-04-2022 11:26 AM

Re: Choosing a motor and ESC for your Wraith - Gearing Added!
 
Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but my son just smoked out the stock ESC on a brand new (like 15 min runtime) Wraith Spawn 2.2. Looking for durable, reliable options that are fairly budget-friendly. The Hobby shop sold a 3s with it saying it would run it no problem, but now I'm seeing that with a 3s, you need an external BEC? Any suggestions/advice is greatly appreciated. BTW, I'd like to still keep decent speed with good crawling. Hoping there's some new tech out there that fits the bill!

TORC811 05-06-2022 01:02 PM

Re: Choosing a motor and ESC for your Wraith - Gearing Added!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MrSquiggles (Post 6110062)
Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but my son just smoked out the stock ESC on a brand new (like 15 min runtime) Wraith Spawn 2.2. Looking for durable, reliable options that are fairly budget-friendly. The Hobby shop sold a 3s with it saying it would run it no problem, but now I'm seeing that with a 3s, you need an external BEC? Any suggestions/advice is greatly appreciated. BTW, I'd like to still keep decent speed with good crawling. Hoping there's some new tech out there that fits the bill!

Hobbywing 1080 is a great brushed ESC that works with 2-3S for under $50.

I will be trying a Hobbywing QuicRun 1800kV brushless combo in my converted 1.9 Wraith in the next week or 2.


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