Robinson Gen 3 slipper

[sixhundred71]

Can anyone tell me if this is a direct replacement for the wraith slipper?
Do I just use the stock shaft for the slipper on this and the pitch seems to be different. I'm using the stock pinion at 48p.

Robinson Racing Slipper Unit 80T Steel Spur Gear: Wraith RRP1545

[Harley]

No, you need the super Shafty top shaft, and a 32 pitch pinion.

[sixhundred71]

Where do I find the top shaft on RPP?
Good thing I posted this first I was just gonna order it.

[Harley]

You need to order direct. SuperShafty.com

[sixhundred71]

Damn, That sucks. I'm trying to consolidate my order,Thanks though Harley.
K, My slipper discs are maybe bent a little causing a chugging noise. I didn't find a replacement one on RPP, Can anyone lead me to one?

[sjg90125]

According to Robinson, it is a 48P gear and not a 32P. Here is the link to Robinson webpage:

Robinson Racing Products - Products and Pricing for Axial Wraith

I have not installed mine yet but the package also states that it is 48P for the 1545.

[Harley]

Originally Posted by sjg90125

According to Robinson, it is a 48P gear and not a 32P. Here is the link to Robinson webpage:

Robinson Racing Products - Products and Pricing for Axial Wraith

I have not installed mine yet but the package also states that it is 48P for the 1545.

Ahhh, ok I was talking about a different setup. I was speaking of the "bomb-proof" setup many of us use.

That is likely a direct fit. However a different gear ratio may make the 32p stuff a better choice.

[sdtech58]

Yeah. I'm running that one. It fits right in. Just pop the old one out and throw the new one in.

If I had to do it again, I would go with the "bomb-proof" setup that Harley described. I'm only running 2 cell right now, and this has worked perfectly. However, once you start throwing tons of torque at it like some of these guys do, you'll probably want the best setup you can get.

[sixhundred71]

So to run the bomb proof set up I would just need the beefy top shaft aluminum trans housing and the slipper unit in the OP? I already have the Robinson Idler gear and one piece diff gear. Am I on the right path?

[crawler nut]

all of the above. but IMO there is no need for an aluminum trans case. just adds more weight. the supershafty top shaft, slipper, 32p gears and the robinson gears in the tranny will make it pretty damn bomb proof.

[blacrubi]

The reason some like to use the aluminum trans case is because the plastic factory case has quite a bit of deflection. It may cause the gears to slip and could lead to gear failure due to wear and tear. The added weight may be worth the extra strength.

[sdtech58]

To do the bomb proof setup, you don't need RRP1545. RRP1545 is 48p specifically for the Wraith. You want 32p, so get RRP7856 for the Slash and the beefy top shaft.

[sixhundred71]

Originally Posted by sdtech58

To do the bomb proof setup, you don't need RRP1545. RRP1545 is 48p specifically for the Wraith. You want 32p, so get RRP7856 for the Slash and the beefy top shaft.

Can I get a link to this part on RPP hobby please?

[Land Crab]

Originally Posted by sdtech58

To do the bomb proof setup, you don't need RRP1545. RRP1545 is 48p specifically for the Wraith. You want 32p, so get RRP7856 for the Slash and the beefy top shaft.

I know that you are trying to help, but with all due respect, incomplete information is just as helpful as no information to a newb like me.

IF one is going to change to a 32p (pitch) spur gear, one also has to change the pinion gear to 32p and pick a proper ratio. And even if one uses the metal 48p (Wraith spacific) Gen 3 slipper by Robinson Racing, one 'should' also get a new Absolute metal spur gear to assure long wear.

Right now I am using a Robinson Racing 84 tooth spur and a 17 tooth pinion (both plastic) but my slipper is slipping too much even though I have it tightened down all the way. So I am considering a better slipper set up like the RR Gen 3 slipper. But like sixhundred71, I am a bit confused as to which set up to go with (and why) and just what parts I would need to complete the job.

[sdtech58]

Originally Posted by Land Crab

I know that you are trying to help, but with all due respect, incomplete information is just as helpful as no information to a newb like me.

IF one is going to change to a 32p (pitch) spur gear, one also has to change the pinion gear to 32p and pick a proper ratio. And even if one uses the metal 48p (Wraith spacific) Gen 3 slipper by Robinson Racing, one 'should' also get a new Absolute metal spur gear to assure long wear.

Right now I am using a Robinson Racing 84 tooth spur and a 17 tooth pinion (both plastic) but my slipper is slipping too much even though I have it tightened down all the way. So I am considering a better slipper set up like the RR Gen 3 slipper. But like sixhundred71, I am a bit confused as to which set up to go with (and why) and just what parts I would need to complete the job.

Okay. I did the leg work for you.

To keep the 48p gears, just order RRP1545 and slap it in. This is the direct replacement for the stock slipper. I haven't had any problems with the stock pinion on this setup. I have about 10-12 hours of runtime on it.

To do the full "BOMB PROOF" upgrade to 32p gears @ stock gearing (4:1), you need the following:
RRP7856 - Slash 2wd Gen3 Slipper
RRP1714 - 14T 32p Hard Pinion
Beefy Shaft for Wraith/AX10 Tranny from supershafty.com or user v84x4 on this forum.

If you haven't replaced them already, here are the part #'s for the RRP Tranny Gears that will work with either setup:
RRP1551 - Hardened Steel Idler Gear
RRP1552 - Hardened Steel Wraith Bottom Diff Gear

Visit the vendor section and find "BOMB PROOF Wraith and AX10 Transmission ULTIMATE MOD" for the whole scoop.

Why is one better than the other? 48p gears are smaller, and therefore will not hold up to as much punishment as the 32p gears. Doing the full upgrade will give you a much more robust set-up for a bit more cash upfront. The 48p gears have not let me down yet running Timbuk2 WE, which is a 2-cell only system. The only reason I went with the 48p gears was because I did not know this setup existed when I bought the Wraith Gen3 slipper. If and when I tear up what I have, I will be going to the Bomb-Proof setup. If I had to do it all over again, I would have done the bomb-proof setup from the start and not worried about it.

[CHOPPERMECH11]

can you use a slash 4x4 setup? Ive got one on my slash I would pull off it it would work???

[SeeeHorn]

I have a wraith spawn and wanted to change the spur gear to a RR metal spur gear. Well come to find out this is not a direct fit and does not work with the spawn :(

[altd896]

Spawn (& Deadbolt/Ram SCX10 for that matter) have the newer style dual slipper, similar to the Yeti.
The Robinson 56T Yeti slipper may work, I repeat MAY work, it has the same D drive rather than pin drive, it's the spacing off the trans/motor plate that may be different.