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02-15-2013, 09:23 PM | #1 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Charleston
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| New question for you Wraith guys
so since ive got some money coming, i wanted to see what you guys said about this: how "hard" would it be to just build a wraith out of aftermarket parts? im thinking (if i can find it) an aftermarket chassis (full metal) Vanquish: axles (and associated parts, chubs etc) wheels links trans housing steel bumpers forward battery tray ALU skid plate shocks ALU tranny case (or whole tranny) fav electronics i know theres more to it, but i mean why couldnt that be doable? i mean, skip the whole "buy a RTR/replace parts" and jump to go with the good stuff. let me know, could be interesting.... |
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02-15-2013, 09:39 PM | #2 |
RCC Addict Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Beavercreek, Oregon, USA
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| Re: New question for you Wraith guys
The only thing that could stop you from doing it would be not having the big pile of money to buy the parts.
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02-15-2013, 09:41 PM | #3 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Charleston
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| Re: New question for you Wraith guys
i shall haz. tax return is 2k. inheritance (which should come about the same time) is 25k. so its either i get a wraith, honcho and maybe a mad torque (if they ever get back in stock) and some parts here and there, or its build out a wraith fully. main thought is why not? i know there isnt one "best" crawler, and everything needs upgrades at some point. why not start with the good parts and fill in the gaps with stock parts? Last edited by REV666; 02-15-2013 at 09:45 PM. |
02-15-2013, 09:41 PM | #4 |
RCC Addict Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Ontherocks
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| Re: New question for you Wraith guys
Anything is possible If this is will be your first Wraith, just remember your taking out a 1000 buck wraith instead of a 350 buck one. If you did get the kit/rtr wraith, you can always sell off the plastic parts as you upgrade to aluminum stuff |
02-15-2013, 09:47 PM | #5 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: idaho
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| Re: New question for you Wraith guys
Well. Maybe 450. I bought the kit and have been wheeling for a few months for way less then 1000. Only mods so far are tranny gears
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02-15-2013, 09:52 PM | #6 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Charleston
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| Re: New question for you Wraith guys
when the big money comes in, i honestly wouldnt care about the money and thing (IMO) i think it would be cool as balls. hell, it really is a "why the f not?"
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02-15-2013, 09:59 PM | #7 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Shirley
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| Re: New question for you Wraith guys
sounds perfectly feasible. and i think the record holder is in the 2k range at the moment. but if youre not shy about dropping the coin i say go for it. would make a prety awesome build thread.
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02-15-2013, 10:06 PM | #8 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Charleston
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| Re: New question for you Wraith guys
anyone got a calculator handy and could work out the cost? not going for most expensive, but rather what works. anyone can throw money at a pile of parts and see what sticks. and on that, anyone know where i could acquire a metal tube frame? |
02-15-2013, 10:08 PM | #9 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: idaho
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| Re: New question for you Wraith guys
Well the build would be like everyone else's. Maybe invest 1500 in some welding equipment and build it yourself starting with a srairh kit. Or may bed just axles tranny and links. Heck make your own links. Either its cool. Built or bought |
02-15-2013, 10:13 PM | #10 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Charleston
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| Re: New question for you Wraith guys
i know i can build a tube frame myself, i just dont have the workspace to do it. i work a lot with brass tube for a few other things and can make just about anything out of brass/copper pipe.
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02-15-2013, 10:24 PM | #11 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: idaho
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| Re: New question for you Wraith guys
There are at times wrairh metal tube frames on ebay
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02-16-2013, 12:28 AM | #12 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Fairbanks, AK
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| Re: New question for you Wraith guys
If you want to build one, start with either 3/16" brake line or 1/4" brake line. I do all my work with Safety-Silv 45 and a cheap torch with MAP gas. I don't like the big auto light torch heads. They're heavy. I just use a cheap Home Depot torch and it works great. Once you get the hang of bending and brazing, switch from brake line to CroMoly or Stainless from your local industrial supply shop. Or find a chassis for sale. They can be between 300 and 500 for good ones. As far as parts go, buy a Wraith RTR and run those parts. They do work. Most will suggest upgrading the motor and servo. Depending on how you upgrade you motor, you'll need to upgrade parts. See Harley's guides for that information. For a Fast, Fun, Durable rig from parts, expect to pay about $1500 in parts, maybe less. Here are a few numbers just to get you thinking. They're only estimates and may be off here and there Tekin Pro4 - 130 Mamba Max Pro - 200 Upgraded transmission - 100 MIP Shafts - 55 Wheels - at least 100 Tires - 55 Gears/lockers - 100 Upgrade plastic breakable parts - 100 upgrade breakable links - 100 There is 900 w/0 even trying. Now add quality axle shafts, any aluminum axle housings, or a high torque servo, just start throwing hundreds at it. |
02-16-2013, 10:56 AM | #13 |
RCC Addict Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: paradise
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| Re: New question for you Wraith guys
Where are you paying $200 for a MMP? I get mine for $110. And if you have all that money just buy everything VP makes for the Wraith, a bad ass custom chassis, 7950 or 7980 MMP and a Pro4 MIP shafts and a good tx/rx combo
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02-16-2013, 11:47 AM | #14 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Fairbanks, AK
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| Re: New question for you Wraith guys oops, my bad. I was just going of the top of my head.
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02-16-2013, 02:25 PM | #15 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Blacksburg
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| Re: New question for you Wraith guys
Yea there are several chassis builders on here. Just look around and it won't be long til you find a builder that will build you what you want. Most charge between $250-$450 for a metal chassis depending on options.
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02-16-2013, 07:57 PM | #16 |
RCC Addict Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Vancouver Island B.C.
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| Re: New question for you Wraith guys
Id let my wraith go for the right price and the only thing stock left is the chassis/skid/trans case and the interior. Check out my build thread if you want |
02-16-2013, 08:06 PM | #17 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: idaho
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| Re: New question for you Wraith guys
id let mine go for the right price to. have winch and custom bumper along with 1/8 scale buggy shocks and custom rear shock tower. hell id let it go ready to run. also has robinson metal tranny gears and 1/8 2100kv brushless power combo. its foffer slash crawler. heck no i wont let it go. ive got more time then 500-600 that its worth into it and i like it, though a 800 plus over might be considerd |
02-16-2013, 08:07 PM | #18 |
Rock Stacker Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Calexico
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02-16-2013, 08:45 PM | #19 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: idaho
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| Re: New question for you Wraith guys
i think id get the kit version that way you get axles tranny and shocks everything to go custom from there
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02-16-2013, 08:59 PM | #20 | |
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