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Old 09-24-2010, 10:03 PM   #21
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courses are going to get real intense in the next 18 months


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Totally agree...BUT, I think they need to create a "Shafty" class since courses will be designed for the technology available on Bergs and the XR10....its going to be mighty challenging for shaft driven rigs.
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Old 09-24-2010, 10:10 PM   #22
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Yeah I believe they do need MOA and shaftys in two opposite classes. I drove a moa of a buddys and that made me get rid of the shafty. Now I'm waiting on my xr10 to start the build process all over again.
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Old 09-24-2010, 10:42 PM   #23
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**** **** ****

now i NEED to upgrade to the XR10. and a 4pk.
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Old 09-24-2010, 10:56 PM   #24
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How exactly do you do this, and will I be able to do this on my m11?

I already run 2 ESC's with both front and rear digs
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Old 09-24-2010, 11:10 PM   #25
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Ya looks cool....Cant wait to get it....Just one more gadget to rock.
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Old 09-24-2010, 11:19 PM   #26
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Totally agree...BUT, I think they need to create a "Shafty" class since courses will be designed for the technology available on Bergs and the XR10....its going to be mighty challenging for shaft driven rigs.
i think they should be in the same class because they are all crawlers right? and its up to you to get a shafty or moa so thats genraly a personal choice.
i see where you are coming from though.....


the cutting break looks pretty awesome on that!
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Old 09-24-2010, 11:29 PM   #27
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i think they should be in the same class because they are all crawlers right? and its up to you to get a shafty or moa so thats genraly a personal choice.
It's also a choice to get dig or no dig on a shafty so should that be two separate classes? 1/8 scale nitro buggy and truggy has the same argument. I know what you're saying and I agree that it should all be one class, but.......

What I would like to see in a video is the same line, same truck, same driver. One pass using dig and one pass using the cut brake. I think it is something that will make the other crawlers old news or it will fall flat on it's face. I'm hoping it's something that will help a bunch though.
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Old 09-25-2010, 12:45 AM   #28
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i really think that here really soon there will be two diff classes. it would suck to make it like that but really how fair is it for a shafty to go up against a sweet ass moa rig. i just honestly think that a moa rig is leaps and bounds ahead of a shafty truck. and there really isnt any way for a shafty to get up to the point where alot of the moa trucks are. just my .02.

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Old 09-25-2010, 01:10 AM   #29
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Everyone already runs together...But there is a 1st for shafty...and a first for
MOA....And a fist overall.....That seems fair to me...
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Old 09-25-2010, 08:11 AM   #30
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but with a DX7, or higher channel count radio.....


coudnt you run 2 rear axles 2 sets of cutbrakes and 2 servos and a shit load of mixing.........


and make it so both right wheels lock, both front wheels lock, both left wheels lock, and both rear wheels lock?


so you have front and rear burn, plus left and right burn
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Old 09-25-2010, 09:18 AM   #31
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I built a shafty with cutting brake technology years back (with a TLT axle). In situations of turning, it had a worse turning radius than just dig. The reason is the rigs are so light that one locked rear tire would not hold the back of the rig. Lock both rear tires and it was a lot tighter turning radius.

That being said, I understand it will be useful for more than just turning. Climbing ledges at angles, having wheels stuck in holes, etc.
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Old 09-25-2010, 09:50 AM   #32
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I built a shafty with cutting brake technology years back (with a TLT axle). In situations of turning, it had a worse turning radius than just dig. The reason is the rigs are so light that one locked rear tire would not hold the back of the rig. Lock both rear tires and it was a lot tighter turning radius.

That being said, I understand it will be useful for more than just turning. Climbing ledges at angles, having wheels stuck in holes, etc.
I think you hit it right on. I think the video shows it being used as a type of dig, when you will really see it's performance on stepped ledges, walls and holes.
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Old 09-25-2010, 11:46 AM   #33
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That is going to help a lot! Yesterday, I was pulling through a bonus gate that takes an immediate sharp 90deg left turn to a 16" drop through next gate. The cutting brake would've allowed me to lock my left rear wheel and pivot on it and drop right through the final bonus gate.

I would like to know about servo size too. That standard servo looks pretty big on that rear axle. Will a HS225mg mini work for the cutters?
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Old 09-25-2010, 04:26 PM   #34
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I was wondering why they use a standard sevo in the video. I hope a small servo will be enough power!!
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Old 09-25-2010, 09:57 PM   #35
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I hate to be the first person to say this but, to be honest I’m not very impressed. My MOA dig will turn that tight. I understand it the first video and it’s in a parking lot but I think I’ll wait ad spend my $$ on some new Vanquish XR-10 Product. I hope this cut brake doesn’t end where the Venom creeper diff lock did (in the trash).
Ok before you all get your panties in a bunch, all I’m saying is I hope it works better than a DIG system while on the rocks. The one positive thing I see in it is you will be able to use one ESC if you want.
On another note, I visited VP facility today to pick up some bushing. Jim and Steve were very helpful, and great guy to talk to. They have some pretty interesting product coming out for the XR10, but that’s all I can say about that.
I think one wheel rear dig is what will be the most useful.
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Old 09-25-2010, 10:34 PM   #36
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I"m curious if it can free wheel or just lock and drive?
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Old 09-25-2010, 10:41 PM   #37
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If you're running dual ESC's you can simulate a freewheel without having a true freewheel.
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Old 09-25-2010, 11:08 PM   #38
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I think one wheel rear dig is what will be the most useful.
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Old 09-25-2010, 11:20 PM   #39
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I hate to be the first person to say this but, to be honest I’m not very impressed. My MOA dig will turn that tight.

X2..........
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Old 09-26-2010, 10:32 AM   #40
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X2..........
I don't think that video was intended to make your jaw drop

It was just a quick teaser

If you are a competitive crawler then you know what you can do with it
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