Vasquez Rock Scale Trail run and COMP!!!!

[4x4Jay]

Hey everyone! 4x4Jay here again.

- WOO HOO!!! We're at it again!! Vasquez Rocks everyone! Time to make another video. More info to come.
- A Scale/Trail Comp will be held at this event!
4 Classes for entry.
1.9 Class
2.2 Class
Comp Crawler Class
3 or more axels Class

We have a few new Sponsors for this event. They have donated give away prizes, prizes for placed finishes in the comp classes, and raffle prizes as well. $10 entry per vehicle per class. (1 vehicle per class, you want to enter in the 1.9 and 2.2? Best bring 2 different vehicles.) $5 raffle tickets.

Knight Customs
Boom Racing
Pro-Line Racing
AsiaTees.com
West Coast RC Crawlers

More info can be found at https://www.facebook.com/events/813324378811052/
HeyOk Performance

[tapped-out]

Sounds like fun, how are the scale comp courses built? Meaning will the be like 2.2pro comp style courses? (10 gates with bonus gates)

[d-wray]

What's the date for this?

[TheAxialNut]

Originally Posted by tapped-out

Sounds like fun, how are the scale comp courses built? Meaning will the be like 2.2pro comp style courses? (10 gates with bonus gates)

Originally Posted by d-wray

What's the date for this?

So is this a for real 2.2pro comp?


I need practice......




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[tapped-out]

If the date works out for me I'm in..
1.9 scale comp
2.2pro comp

[4x4Jay]

We do things a bit simpler then most. We do classes based on wheel size and vehicle style.
1.9 class
2.2 class
Comp Crawler class
and 3 or more axles class.

It's more about having a good time with what you brought out.
We'll start doing a point series soon, and that will have all the rules.
but for now, we just want everyone to have a great time. So we keep the comp simple and easy.

The event is on the 21st. (Check out the Facebook link for further details)

There will be a decent size raffle happening, and cash prizes for the placed winners of the comps.

[tapped-out]

Originally Posted by 4x4Jay

We do things a bit simpler then most. We do classes based on wheel size and vehicle style.
1.9 class
2.2 class
Comp Crawler class
and 3 or more axles class.

It's more about having a good time with what you brought out.
We'll start doing a point series soon, and that will have all the rules.
but for now, we just want everyone to have a great time. So we keep the comp simple and easy.

The event is on the 21st. (Check out the Facebook link for further details)

There will be a decent size raffle happening, and cash prizes for the placed winners of the comps.

Thanks for replying simple and fun sound great so courses are 10 gates with progress and penaltie points... please post some info here..

You'll probably lose a few people because Pro-line poker run in Apple Valley on 5/21.
When you have events can you please post info on RCC? I'd would like to attend a few of your events. Your Facebook link isn't good or I can't see info because I don't have FB...
GOOD LUCK with your event..

[tapped-out]

I've tried looking at the Facebook page using the link above and it doesn't work..
Any updates on this ?

[4x4Jay]

sorry for the delay on this. Here is all the info from the Facebook page.

- WOO HOO!!! We're at it again!! Vasquez Rocks everyone! Time to make another video. More info to come.
- A Scale/Trail Comp will be held at this event!
4 Classes for entry.
1.9 Class
2.2 Class
Comp Crawler Class
3 or more axels Class

We have a few new Sponsors for this event. They have donated give away prizes, prizes for placed finishes in the comp classes, and raffle prizes as well. $10 entry per vehicle per class. (1 vehicle per class, you want to enter in the 1.9 and 2.2? Best bring 2 different vehicles.) $5 raffle tickets.

Official Sponsors:
Knight Customs
Pro-Line Racing
#HeyOKPerformance
West Coast Rc Crawlers
BGR Fabrications & Welding


Rock Crawling competition info is as follows. If you wish to enter in to the competition please contact Jay about what class you want in to. Remember 1 vehicle per class. You can't bring 2.2 tires for your 1.9 rig (or vise versa) and run both classes. Pick a tire size and stick with it. No exceptions. You can also sign up day of event.



CASH PRIZES for 1st and 2nd places in all classes!! (with minimum of 3 entries per class)

If anyone has anything they would like to donate as prizes, please shoot Jay a PM about it.

Vasquez Rocks Map Link --> https://www.google.com/maps/@34.4850...k.k_bDFVzVjQx4

Jody and hopefully Jay will be setting up the comp lines just after lunch. We will then do a super fast sign in and inspection of the rigs. Rigs go in to the holding area, and we wait to start the comp. No work can be done on the rigs once they have been checked in. Please do any repairs or adjustments before checking in for the comp.

Super simple and easy. $5 entry per RC per class (Please bring $5 bills). You CAN NOT enter the same vehicle in 2 classes. Pick a tire size and stick with it, or bring 2 rigs.

Simple rules. (Don....)

3 Classes
Class 1 - Trail/Scale rigs on 1.9's (no rear steer)
Class 2 - Trail/Scale rigs on 2.2's (no rear steer)
Class 3 - Comp Crawlers (night crawlers, G-Made, twin plate frames, you get the idea.)
Class 4 - anything with more then 4 drive wheels. (Minimum 3 entries needed for this class to run.)

Number of Gates: TBA
Time Limit for runs: TBA

Rules/Point Scoring are as follows:

Points:
Gate Marker: +10 points
Rollover: +5 points
Boundary Marker: +10 points
Vehicle Touch (Repair & Re-positions): +10 points
Back Up/ Reverse: ALLOWED (Unless otherwise specified by selected judges)

Progress Points: -2

We are not doing any extra points for scale items during check in. Once your vehicle has passes judge's inspection, it goes in to the holding area until it's your time to run.

ONLY THE JUDGES PICKED BY JAY WILL BE ALLOWED IN THE HOLDING AREA.

Descriptions of above terms:

Rollover: (5 pts) Points are given when vehicles rollover, and cannot be corrected without touching. Once the vehicle has stopped it may be rolled over and the 5 point penalty shall be given. Vehicles that land back on their wheels are not penalized. Drivers must execute a legal roll over recovery, or they will be given a reposition penalty. ( Legal Rollover Recovery: The vehicle must be completely at rest and may not have any transmitter input during the Rollover Recovery. The rig must be smoothly rolled over (sideways not end over end) from driver or passenger sides by holding the truck by the chassis or body (Not tires, wheels or axles). The driver may only attempt to roll the vehicle in one direction. At no time during the Recovery can the vehicle slide in any direction or lose contact with the ground. Once the truck is rolled over it must be able to hold its position on its own long enough for the Judge to determine it is stable and remain within the course boundaries. The course may be continued at this point. If any of above criteria is not met, a Reposition penalty (10 pts, will be given instead of a Roll Over (5 pts).)

Vehicle Reposition Touch: (10 pts) All vehicle touches excluding “Rollovers” are given an automatic 10 points. The judge will stop time when the driver requests a vehicle touch or the judge calls a touch penalty. The vehicle is then moved by the driver to the previously cleared gate with the rear axle aligned to that gate. If the vehicle cannot be aligned to the gate due to course design, the judge will reposition the vehicle to the next stable location after the cleared gate. This location will be used for all drivers. Note: All gates for progress are still “live” unless a gate has already been deemed “dead”.

Vehicle Touches: include but are not limited to: repairs, repositions, and intentional touching of the rig by the driver. Touch penalty will occur if driver interacts with intent to cause advantage or control a falling vehicle.
Special considerations: Driver safety is most important and touch penalties should not accumulate from accidental interaction. When vehicle and driver make accidental contact, the judge or driver(s) assisting scoring shall stop time and determine if standard reposition should occur to prevent advantage, or if driver can continue without further interaction. Example 1: Vehicle falls and hits driver, coming to rest on the driver's foot. Judges stop time, and call for a no-penalty reposition, as the driver could gain course advantage by continuing to drive over the foot. If driver ignores reposition and drives over foot, it becomes an event rule violation of course modification and the driver is disqualified.
Example 2: Driver stumbles and steps on vehicle. Judges stop time to ensure driver has stable footing, and to assess vehicle position. No advantage is seen, so time starts and driver resumes without reposition.
Example 3: Vehicle falls and hits driver, coming to rest further downhill. Judges stop time and assess that no advantage was made from the fall, so time restarts and driver resumes.

On Course Repairs: Must be completed on course and in the spot of which the driver decided to take the repair. Repairs must be made within the course time, while the course timer will continue to run. Once repairs are completed, the timer is stopped and vehicle is repositioned to the previous gate cleared. If repairs cannot be made within the course time, the driver is given a DNF minus progress points for that course. There are no restrictions on whom or how the repairs are made.

Off course repairs (Optional): A driver can call time to make an off course repair at events where deemed acceptable. Repairs should be completed within 30 minutes, or the driver is given a DNF minus progress points. If the repair is made in the allotted time the driver must return to the last previous gate cleared. A 1 minute time penalty will be subtracted from the time that is left on that course, the timer will continue once the vehicle makes forward progress.

Vehicle Out of Spec: If the Judge has reason to believe a vehicle is out of spec during a course run, he may call time to stop. At that point no additional inputs may be given by the driver to the vehicle via touch or radio control. The Judge must mark the vehicle’s location and perform a tech inspection in the specified tech area (same manner as all other tech inspections). If the vehicle has been deemed within spec, the driver and vehicle will return to the location marked by the judge and the clock will start once again. If the vehicle is now out of spec and the Judge has determined that the vehicle has gained an advantage, the driver must take a repair (see rule 1.4.3) to correct the problem. If the problem can not be corrected to bring the vehicle back within spec, the driver will receive a DNF for that course. If a vehicle falls out of spec due to breakage on course and the Judge determines the driver has not gained an advantage, then the driver may be allowed to continue on course without stopping time and requiring a tech inspection. Bodies, and body panels are not included in this exception, and must be replaced immediately, standard repair procedures and penalties apply.

Gate Marker (10 pts each): each gate will be comprised of 2 gate markers. Points are given when 4 wheels do not travel between gate markers or any part of the vehicle touches a gate marker. A gate marker will remain "live" for the entire duration of the attempt on the course. Gate markers that are moved by anything other than the vehicle's actions will be replaced immediately before the driver is allowed to continue. Once any gate marker has been touched by the vehicle, no more penalties will be given for that gate marker. Only when a gate penalty is assessed will that gate marker be deemed "dead". No further penalties will be assessed at this point for that gate marker. (See Gate Marker and Gate Clearing explanations, Sec. 7.)

Maximum Penalty Points:
The maximum points per course is 40. At that time the driver is given a DNF and the run is complete and the vehicle should be removed from the course.

DNF (Did Not Finish): (40 pts): are given anytime a driver cannot complete a course for any reason.
(Time expired, Point-Out, Vehicle not Repairable, etc)

Progress points are awarded for each gate completed.

DNS (Did Not Start) (50 pts): are given anytime a driver cannot start a course for any reason. Vehicle must start course under its own power.

Progress bonus (-2 progress point): shall be awarded to drivers for each gate after it has been cleared during the attempt of a course. All gate penalties are assessed and given before a progress bonus is awarded. Progress is awarded when during the same attempt and in the intended course direction at least one front and one rear tire passes completely through the gate. To receive the progress bonus without a gate penalty, all four tires must pass completely through the gate during the same attempt and in the intended course direction. Progress points are deducted from the total course score. Once a driver has pointed out, no further Progress points will be awarded.

Timer Pause: A driver may call for time to stop so that he or she may safely reposition themselves on the course. This time shall be used for the purpose of driver safety and may not be used to survey the course or for any other advantage, the judge has the right to restart time at any point. The timer will resume when the competitor resumes driving.

Course Direction (10 pts) Gates must be cleared in their intended direction and sequence. Any part
of the vehicle entering an un-cleared gate in the wrong direction, or driven through out of sequence will result in a 10 point penalty. The judge will stop time. The vehicle is then moved back by the driver to the previously cleared gate with the rear axle aligned to that gate. If the vehicle cannot be aligned to the gate due to course design, the judge will reposition the vehicle to the next stable location after the cleared gate. This location will be used for all drivers. Once the gate is cleared and awarded progress it can be traveled in any sequence or direction.

[tapped-out]

Thank you jay, great info. So comp starts after lunch? Is this for both scale and pro?
I'm trying to get a feel for the day, because I have family obligation in the late afternoon.. sorry for all the questions...

[4x4Jay]

Hey Tapped, no worries with the questions. We're not separating scale and pro. We are only splitting it up by wheel size for now. This is really more for fun. We're talking about starting a point series soon, but for now we try to keep it tame and mainly about meeting other people and having a good time crawling.

[tapped-out]

Originally Posted by 4x4Jay

Hey Tapped, no worries with the questions. We're not separating scale and pro. We are only splitting it up by wheel size for now. This is really more for fun. We're talking about starting a point series soon, but for now we try to keep it tame and mainly about meeting other people and having a good time crawling.

How many of you guys have 2.2 pro/mod or 2.2 sporty rigs? You guys should join BLC comp season starting in October...
If you're interested in starting a point series over the summer and need some help getting it going pm me.
I was going to try and have 3 scale comps over the summer in Victorville area. My idea for scale comps courses/rules would be same as usrcca comp rules but courses built for 1.9 scale rigs.

[4x4Jay]

We also just added BRG Fabrications to the sponsor list!

[blkbart00]

Facebook link does not work.
What time is it starting? After lunch? Does that mean 1:00?

[4x4Jay]

Event starts at 10am with a trail run, then lunch around 12, and comps starting about 1.

[4x4Jay]

We should be finishing up about 3-4pm. Raffle will be during the end of lunch.

Boom Racing /AsiaTees.com sponsored parts for the raffle
a set of Boom Racing Shock Wings (lift or droop setup)
A set of aluminum Wraith links in orange
SCX10 aluminum rear shock mount
SCX10 center skid plate in Red
a full set of Boomerang Type G shocks in red
A Boom Racing tool set
Wraith stage 1 kit (chubs, knuckles, steering link, rear lockouts)
Vaterra K5 Blazer ascender front chubs, knuckles, and rear hub carriers

2 lucky winners from the raffle will find them self's walking away with a BGR Fabrications Wraith Stinger, and a set of BGR Fabrications Wraith Sliders!!

Pro-Line also helped us out as well.
‪#‎BFGoodrich‬ All-terrain KO2 2.2 G8 Rock Terrain tires + foams (1 full set), a 1966 Ford F-100 body (Cab only), and LOTS of Pro-Line stickers!


These are all parts that can be won in the raffle!

[4x4Jay]

We also have a few parts from HeyOK Performance to add to the raffle as well.

[Bomber74]

Brand new to the site and to crawling. Just picked up a Bomber last weekend. Just saying hi and any looking for any crawling spots around Santa Monica or LA.

[4x4Jay]

Hey Bomber74, I'm actually over in the Santa Monica/Venice area my self! Welcome to the site. If your on Facebook, you should check out the Renegade Rock Runners group. We're all from the LA area. If your looking for a decent crawl spot locally, head over to Dockwhiler beach. It's the mouth of the Marina Del Rey harbor. Check out the videos in this playlist (Link --> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...YdZaF7FHvgOtBw ) labeled "Marina Del Rey", those will give you an idea of the rock formations that we crawl on in that location. You will also see plenty of Vasquez Rocks videos as well. If you can, you should try and make it to the event on the 21st (It's at Vasquez Rocks). It would be a GREAT experience for you. You'll get to see plenty of custom crawlers, and chat with like minded folks that absolutely LOVE this hobby.