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EeePee · 12-14-2005, 04:40 PM

I, for one, am interested in this, even if only a few people would jump on the bandwagon. I have my Stick for a Super, and I have this TXT that I get a kick out of driving, but I don't feel it could do as well as my Stick, so it needs somewhere to call home.

Do we want to discuss this?

I guess the wheelbase should be set. But where? If these are to be run on the Super's course, too short might be a killer. And to long you're in Super territory. And a compromised Super course is too easy for the Super trucks. I think someone with a 15 inch wheelbase on a Super is cutting it close, so maybe that's the magic number?

Maybe this could be the "TXT Spec" class? Spec refering only to axles, and limited dimensions.

15 inch WB, and 2WS, Maxx or Clod sized tires.

DirkDigler · 12-14-2005, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EeePee

I, for one, am interested in this, even if only a few people would jump on the bandwagon. I have my Stick for a Super, and I have this TXT that I get a kick out of driving, but I don't feel it could do as well as my Stick, so it needs somewhere to call home.

Do we want to discuss this?

I guess the wheelbase should be set. But where? If these are to be run on the Super's course, too short might be a killer. And to long you're in Super territory. And a compromised Super course is too easy for the Super trucks. I think someone with a 15 inch wheelbase on a Super is cutting it close, so maybe that's the magic number?

Maybe this could be the "TXT Spec" class? Spec refering only to axles, and limited dimensions.

15 inch WB, and 2WS, Maxx or Clod sized tires.

Here we go again.
My similar thread was deleted.
But I'm all for this.

DirkDigler · 12-14-2005, 04:46 PM

My ideas:

Any axles
Standard Maxx wheel and tires (no 40's and no 2.2s)
Under 15 inches, over 12.5 wheel base
Front and rear stear, any way
Must run most of body or tube chassis

EeePee · 12-14-2005, 04:55 PM

No wheel weights.

mike · 12-14-2005, 05:12 PM

I think it should just be any rig, maximum wheelbase of 15" and 2-wheel steer, and that’s it.
In my opinion this allows more people to be able to compete, and for a more diverse field, not just Clods and TXTs.

shortbusjeep · 12-14-2005, 05:34 PM

would you make a chassi limit? like must be four link or simalar( no stick or articulation only) and do you mean maxx size rims, so any tire you can get on a maxx rim? production only? cause it seems moabs could be made to fit a maxx rim. sounds fun but i think parc has it nailed with there driver class i dont know all the rules but it has a good start

BENDER · 12-14-2005, 06:30 PM

I'm going to build one either way, it fits perfectly between the 2.2s and the Supers.

RD400 · 12-14-2005, 08:02 PM

I love threads like this. I can't get more than 3 people together to go crawling, let alone have classes of trucks. I have been pushing crawling around here for over a year now, I even take my crawlers up to the "monster truck night" at the LHS. The customers that see the crawlers love them, but the employees tell them "you have to build to much of it yourself so, buy this E-MAXX."

The manager of said LHS didn't even know what MOAB XL's were tonight when I asked about pricing. I had to go behind the counter to show him on the Proline website. He then told me they would fit standard 40 series wheels

.

Sorry about going a little off topic, but crawling against your wife and 6 year old son gets pretty f*cking dull

JasonInAugusta · 12-14-2005, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RD400

I love threads like this. I can't get more than 3 people together to go crawling, let alone have classes of trucks.

Sorry about going a little off topic, but crawling against your wife and 6 year old son gets pretty f*cking dull.

RD400 · 12-14-2005, 08:14 PM

JIA, sure, laugh at my pain

JasonInAugusta · 12-14-2005, 08:16 PM

Are you kiddin'?

I can relate.

Guys in the South-East are driving 5-7hrs to attend a comp.

In our area the last thing we need is another class.

eric113 · 12-14-2005, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RD400

I love threads like this. I can't get more than 3 people together to go crawling, let alone have classes of trucks. I have been pushing crawling around here for over a year now, I even take my crawlers up to the "monster truck night" at the LHS. The customers that see the crawlers love them, but the employees tell them "you have to build to much of it yourself so, buy this E-MAXX."

The manager of said LHS didn't even know what MOAB XL's were tonight when I asked about pricing. I had to go behind the counter to show him on the Proline website. He then told me they would fit standard 40 series wheels

.

Sorry about going a little off topic, but crawling against your wife and 6 year old son gets pretty f*cking dull

I feel your pain, I'am the only person in austin that into this or I have to drive 4 hours up to dallas/ft worth area where most the guys lives.

jason · 12-14-2005, 08:20 PM

I have no problem running another class here in Colorado.

Remember thought that if we run another class it will take up even more time, so instead of running 3-4 courses per comp like we do now we'd only be able to run 2.

It gets real lame to drive several hours to a comp to only be able to drive your rig for 10 minutes.

Ace · 12-14-2005, 08:25 PM

Class or not, I'm building mine and showing up at the comp with it.

Supers don't excite me anymore. If I compete for 8th place with my Old School rig in super class at least I'll look good doing it! (so will the truck)

my rules would be:

Only T-maxx rims
only uncut rubber
15" wb
2 wheel steer (or 4ws no crab)
if it don't look right, it ain't old school!

PinchFlat · 12-14-2005, 09:13 PM

We were trying to have an Old School class for 2006 here in the UT.... Only a hand full of guys Showed any interest so it died. I would have loved to run an old school I actually converted my 2.2 clod to an old school 14" WB but I think 15" would have been perfect. We were going to run them with the STPs or with the 2.2s it would have taken longer still though and those that run the comps know how time consuming draining to can be to run only 2 classes.

Here were our proposed specs.
Class 2 - Old School Class (ALL NEW CLASS)

- Limited to ClodBuster, TXT-1 or E-Maxx configuration.
- Vehicle wheelbase is a maximum 14 inches..
- Limited to ClodBuster/TXT, standard MAXX sized wheel or smaller. Wheel Narrowing is allowed.
- Limited to un-modified tires only (straight out of the bag).
- Limited to 4-wheeled vehicles only.
- 4-wheel steering allowed, Y-harness only. No crab steer or independent rear steer allowed.
- You must run a body (full tube chassis acceptable).
- The body must be 1/10th scale or larger.
- Limited to full body only (the only trimming allowed will be fender flairs).

If any Class 2 vehicle violates any of these guidelines it must be run in the Class 1 - STP Super Class.

radishkid · 12-14-2005, 09:15 PM

Old school as in canti's and nitro as well?

Heck, if that's the case, everyone selling a Gecko2 (with stock Clod tires) for 3 times more than it is worth on eBay suddenly has a very cool crawler!

radishkid · 12-14-2005, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PinchFlat

- Limited to ClodBuster, TXT-1 or E-Maxx configuration.

What?! No X-Factor?

Ace · 12-15-2005, 07:13 AM

Yup, I like the Utah rules. 14" or 15" I don't care. (Except for "limited to clod txt or maxx)

I'll be the truck tipping over backwards at the bottom of the 1st obstacle in the super class...

I'll also be the guy looking hard for the perfect line, not just driving up.

grover · 12-15-2005, 07:58 AM

I enjoy driving trucks at this size, with txt or clod axles, and maxx mashers.

You may want to look at what the current classes do not offer and tailer the class to meet those needs.

DirkDigler · 12-15-2005, 10:03 AM

It sounds like there are many of these being built in colorado. I think that we will just need to bring them to the next comp and figure out a place for them. After that, we should have some good ideas on how to handle a new class. Personally, I think that all that have the 14r's should run them after all the super class competitors have finished. Use the same course and see what the scores look like afterwards. If there is an impossible ledge that a 14 or 15 inch wb can't do, that will need to be bypassed.....kind of like we did with the 2.2's at Palmer Park last week.
I just think that there needs to be a bit of trial and error before we create the whole new class with new rules, etc.

12-14-2005, 04:40 PM	#1
EeePee MODERATOR™ Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 18,928	Old School Class discussion I, for one, am interested in this, even if only a few people would jump on the bandwagon. I have my Stick for a Super, and I have this TXT that I get a kick out of driving, but I don't feel it could do as well as my Stick, so it needs somewhere to call home. Do we want to discuss this? I guess the wheelbase should be set. But where? If these are to be run on the Super's course, too short might be a killer. And to long you're in Super territory. And a compromised Super course is too easy for the Super trucks. I think someone with a 15 inch wheelbase on a Super is cutting it close, so maybe that's the magic number? Maybe this could be the "TXT Spec" class? Spec refering only to axles, and limited dimensions. 15 inch WB, and 2WS, Maxx or Clod sized tires.

12-14-2005, 08:02 PM	#8
RD400 Rock Crawler Join Date: May 2005 Location: omaha Posts: 858	I love threads like this. I can't get more than 3 people together to go crawling, let alone have classes of trucks. I have been pushing crawling around here for over a year now, I even take my crawlers up to the "monster truck night" at the LHS. The customers that see the crawlers love them, but the employees tell them "you have to build to much of it yourself so, buy this E-MAXX." The manager of said LHS didn't even know what MOAB XL's were tonight when I asked about pricing. I had to go behind the counter to show him on the Proline website. He then told me they would fit standard 40 series wheels. Sorry about going a little off topic, but crawling against your wife and 6 year old son gets pretty f*cking dull

12-15-2005, 07:58 AM	#19
grover Rock Crawler Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Tumwater Posts: 910	I enjoy driving trucks at this size, with txt or clod axles, and maxx mashers. You may want to look at what the current classes do not offer and tailer the class to meet those needs. Last edited by grover; 12-15-2005 at 10:13 AM.

12-14-2005, 04:46 PM	#3
DirkDigler I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 5,027	My ideas: Any axles Standard Maxx wheel and tires (no 40's and no 2.2s) Under 15 inches, over 12.5 wheel base Front and rear stear, any way Must run most of body or tube chassis

12-14-2005, 04:55 PM	#4
EeePee MODERATOR™ Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 18,928	No wheel weights.

12-14-2005, 05:12 PM	#5
mike RCC Addict Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Redding, CA Posts: 1,288	I think it should just be any rig, maximum wheelbase of 15" and 2-wheel steer, and that’s it. In my opinion this allows more people to be able to compete, and for a more diverse field, not just Clods and TXTs.

12-14-2005, 05:34 PM	#6
shortbusjeep Quarry Creeper Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Yuma Posts: 285	would you make a chassi limit? like must be four link or simalar( no stick or articulation only) and do you mean maxx size rims, so any tire you can get on a maxx rim? production only? cause it seems moabs could be made to fit a maxx rim. sounds fun but i think parc has it nailed with there driver class i dont know all the rules but it has a good start

12-14-2005, 06:30 PM	#7
BENDER 2006 2.2 National Champ Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Big Bear Lake Posts: 8,328	I'm going to build one either way, it fits perfectly between the 2.2s and the Supers.

12-14-2005, 08:14 PM	#10
RD400 Rock Crawler Join Date: May 2005 Location: omaha Posts: 858	JIA, sure, laugh at my pain

12-14-2005, 08:16 PM	#11
JasonInAugusta 06 Super National Champ Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Stark Industries Bar and Grill Posts: 11,361	Are you kiddin'? I can relate. Guys in the South-East are driving 5-7hrs to attend a comp. In our area the last thing we need is another class.

12-14-2005, 08:20 PM	#13
jason R.I.P. Chip Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: The Crawler State Posts: 13,938	I have no problem running another class here in Colorado. Remember thought that if we run another class it will take up even more time, so instead of running 3-4 courses per comp like we do now we'd only be able to run 2. It gets real lame to drive several hours to a comp to only be able to drive your rig for 10 minutes.

12-14-2005, 08:25 PM	#14
Ace Rock Crawler Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Longmont, CO Posts: 901	Class or not, I'm building mine and showing up at the comp with it. Supers don't excite me anymore. If I compete for 8th place with my Old School rig in super class at least I'll look good doing it! (so will the truck) my rules would be: Only T-maxx rims only uncut rubber 15" wb 2 wheel steer (or 4ws no crab) if it don't look right, it ain't old school!

12-14-2005, 09:13 PM	#15
PinchFlat Say hello to my dactylion Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: On the Boat to Whore Island Posts: 4,470	We were trying to have an Old School class for 2006 here in the UT.... Only a hand full of guys Showed any interest so it died. I would have loved to run an old school I actually converted my 2.2 clod to an old school 14" WB but I think 15" would have been perfect. We were going to run them with the STPs or with the 2.2s it would have taken longer still though and those that run the comps know how time consuming draining to can be to run only 2 classes. Here were our proposed specs. Class 2 - Old School Class (ALL NEW CLASS) - Limited to ClodBuster, TXT-1 or E-Maxx configuration. - Vehicle wheelbase is a maximum 14 inches.. - Limited to ClodBuster/TXT, standard MAXX sized wheel or smaller. Wheel Narrowing is allowed. - Limited to un-modified tires only (straight out of the bag). - Limited to 4-wheeled vehicles only. - 4-wheel steering allowed, Y-harness only. No crab steer or independent rear steer allowed. - You must run a body (full tube chassis acceptable). - The body must be 1/10th scale or larger. - Limited to full body only (the only trimming allowed will be fender flairs). If any Class 2 vehicle violates any of these guidelines it must be run in the Class 1 - STP Super Class.

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12-14-2005, 09:15 PM	#16
radishkid Quarry Creeper Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: In the saddle... Posts: 473	Old school as in canti's and nitro as well? Heck, if that's the case, everyone selling a Gecko2 (with stock Clod tires) for 3 times more than it is worth on eBay suddenly has a very cool crawler!

12-15-2005, 07:13 AM	#18
Ace Rock Crawler Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Longmont, CO Posts: 901	Yup, I like the Utah rules. 14" or 15" I don't care. (Except for "limited to clod txt or maxx) I'll be the truck tipping over backwards at the bottom of the 1st obstacle in the super class... I'll also be the guy looking hard for the perfect line, not just driving up.

12-15-2005, 10:03 AM	#20
DirkDigler I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 5,027	It sounds like there are many of these being built in colorado. I think that we will just need to bring them to the next comp and figure out a place for them. After that, we should have some good ideas on how to handle a new class. Personally, I think that all that have the 14r's should run them after all the super class competitors have finished. Use the same course and see what the scores look like afterwards. If there is an impossible ledge that a 14 or 15 inch wb can't do, that will need to be bypassed.....kind of like we did with the 2.2's at Palmer Park last week. I just think that there needs to be a bit of trial and error before we create the whole new class with new rules, etc.

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