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Old 05-07-2013, 07:20 AM   #1
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I have been waiting for this one. I think DEFCAD has really brought out the real meaning of Liberty.
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And Congress is moving to make these illegal. These ****bags cannot pass a budget, but anytime there is a new tax can sure knock those votes out of the park.
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DefCad does all sorts of cool things. I gotta get the shops 3D printer going!


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Talk about stirring the pot...
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Its funny he leased a 3d printer from Stratasys then when they found out what he was doing they took it back, so he bought a used one from evilbay.
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Old 05-07-2013, 10:49 AM   #8
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They took it because he did not hold a manufacturers FFL and as far as they were concerned it was "illegal activity" that violated their TOS. He has and FFL and place of business now.

Now that the "what if" part of the shootable, pure plastic (well aside from firing pin and the round) 3D printed gun has been made how will laws be addressed.

Near as I can tell all current laws apply and cover this, but I am sure there will be people that think otherwise.
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It isn't against the law to manufacture a firearm for your own use. You just can't transfer or sell it.

When everyone has their own printer, no need to buy one.

This will be the next industrial revolution IMO.
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in the first pik you can see the trigger is broken off. Drail
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in the first pik you can see the trigger is broken off. Drail
my guess is its a 1 shot to help u kind of gun,, it will probibly do that everytime used, i guess thats a good ting about being able to print them out at home,,
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Old 05-07-2013, 11:44 AM   #12
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1 shot and no accuracy... I can do that with $2 in plumbing parts.

Now the printed ar lower, that really interests me.

The congressman that wants them banned was saying "they can be melted and easily destroyed after a crime". How is that different from any gun... Find a deep lake/river and toss. How many criminals are going to spend $2500 on a 3d printer and spend the time learning to use it before they commit a crime.
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I think this is more of a proof of concept than anything.
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The next industrial revolution, no. The next capitalist venture from china to the US, most definately.

Every time a gun thread is started here quality and craftsmanship come up and now we're looking at a plastic gun. Just like the idea of criminals purchasing the equipment and gaining the knowledge to make these is silly, so is the idea of the average joe doing so. How many quality guns could you buy with $2,500?

But on a manufacturing scale this could definately be a money maker by capitalizing on all of the suckers out there.
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Shows it is possible, even if its a single shot for now. As the tech improves, so will what can be made.

That being said. Would like to see how one of these hold up after being printed on a ~$1k hobby level printer (Makerbot, bukobot, Mendel Max) that print with lower grade ABS.
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Seems to me it's making a point. Notice the name? It's in the spirit of a cheap little pistol the allies dropped into France during WWII for the French underground. It's meant to be used once maybe to take out an ememy soldier and take his weapon to better arm yourself. Only this time, we don't need very powerful ally air dropping these things into the countryside. We can just MAKE THEM ourselves in secret.
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"in the first pik"

FYI pik Means dick in Danish

When i was a kid/teen we build shotguns from plumbing parts, got the "blueprints" from "Improvised Munitions Black Book Vol. 1"

We allso made other nauthty Things from that Little book
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The next industrial revolution, no. The next capitalist venture from china to the US, most definately.

Every time a gun thread is started here quality and craftsmanship come up and now we're looking at a plastic gun. Just like the idea of criminals purchasing the equipment and gaining the knowledge to make these is silly, so is the idea of the average joe doing so. How many quality guns could you buy with $2,500?

But on a manufacturing scale this could definately be a money maker by capitalizing on all of the suckers out there.


Like I said, this firearm is nothing more than a proof of concept. It can indeed be done.

Small businesses and individuals who dream of bringing products to market are faced with the high cost of designing, prototyping, and testing their ideas.

It's the biggest obstical in bringing concepts into reality.

I've seen it personally with some of the small venders here on RCC.

Often, the chore of even creating a prototype is so expensive, great ideas are left on the design table do to cost.

This is exactly why 3D printing has the potential to be a game changer for small business and individuals.

Manufacturing was once limited to big business with big money. 3D printing can put the power of prototyping and one-off manufacturing into the hands of the little guy.

With a 3D printer and a digital design, someone can produce a working three-dimensional object of virtually anything right on the spot.

As the design, technology, and materials improve. So will the durability, quality, and functionality of the products these printers produce.

I think it's way to early in the game to poo poo the potential that 3D printing has to offer.
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Like I said, this firearm is nothing more than a proof of concept. It can indeed be done.

Small businesses and individuals who dream of bringing products to market are faced with the high cost of designing, prototyping, and testing their ideas.

It's the biggest obstical in bringing concepts into reality.

I've seen it personally with some of the small venders here on RCC.

Often, the chore of even creating a prototype is so expensive, great ideas are left on the design table do to cost.

This is exactly why 3D printing has the potential to be a game changer for small business and individuals.

Manufacturing was once limited to big business with big money. 3D printing can put the power of prototyping and one-off manufacturing into the hands of the little guy.

With a 3D printer and a digital design, someone can produce a working three-dimensional object of virtually anything right on the spot.

As the design, technology, and materials improve. So will the durability, quality, and functionality of the products these printers produce.

I think it's way to early in the game to poo poo the potential that 3D printing has to offer.



Im aware of all of that. It seemed to me the big fuss over this was the fact that its a "working plastic pistol that was produced using equipment and materials that anyone can get/use". I understand the design/proto process, and itd be one thing if the 3DP was just being used for an intial design which would later be transfered to quality materials, but thats not the impression I got from the article.

For intial design in the manufacturing process yes it would be great for the small guys. I do not see it as a reality for an end product that any joe blow/bad guys/etc. can obtain, which is how I interpreted the article.
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