I might have to have you type out the settings you are using.

Do you lose the ability to have variable rear mix? As in driving with 100% front 60% rear?

Great write-up! I have a 3PK and like it a lot. It has just about all the features that the 4PK does, less the extra channel, and maybe some other little do-dads. These are really nice radios. I've switched the Futaba camp and will probably never go back.

Yeah sure, give me until tonight though and I'll share my menu settings. Last night I don't know if I was making myself clear (been working really long hours lately and was tired) but to dig the rear axle you hit a button, to dig the front axle you hit different button. You can still adjust the proportionality between the front and rear axle, i.e. have one axle lead or lag the other.

Ok, in the pmix 1 menu

FWRD: +100
BRAK: +100
MST: TH
SLV: CH3
MODE: ACT
OFST: 0
MXMD: MIX
TRIM: OFF

PMIX 2 menu

FWRD: +100
BRAK: +100
MST: TH
SLV: CH4
MODE: ACT
OFST: 0
MXMD: MIX
TRIM: OFF

Buttons

PS1: PROG MIX1 / ALT
PS2: PROG MIX2 / ALT
PS3: OFF

DL1: OFF
DL2: OFF
DL3: PM1-B: 10 / NOR

Hope this helps.

Thanks a lot whoodie. I wasn't quite grasping the concept turning them both on for 4WD and killing each ESC individually then.

Works well "thumbsup"

Another great way to run with Dual ESC's.

One VERY small thing I like to change about your setup Whoodie. I like to run to very the rear ESC's mix instead of the fronts. I also prefer to run it on DL2

DL1: PM2-B: 10 / NOR
DL2: OFF
DL3: OFF

Yeah as I said earlier, I have not received my second FXR so I have not had a chance to tweak on it "thumbsup"

You will love it when you get a chance to run it. Never had a rig that I felt I could control so easily.

Harley, great write up. I got my 4PK Friday and just finished up programing it. Love the control you get on climbs with the rear ESC control.

Now I want to try whoodie's setup since you verified you don't lose the proportional control of the rear ESC. Now, if I plug the front ESC to the 3rd channel and the rear ESC to the 4th control, then where do you plug the CC BEC to? Or do you just let the ESC power the servo? Or order that optional piece from Futaba for the 4ch/bat?

With whoodies setup you will need to direct wire the CCBEC.

This is what I sugest:
Go buy a Y-harness with a female input and 2 male outputs. You will need to take one of the males ends off and replace it with another female. This is very easy to do with a hobby knife.

Plug the servo into the input side, and make the red and black wires go to the other female. The signal; wire goes to the male side.

You will plug the CCBEC into the Y-harness to power JUST the servo.

You need to reinstall the Power wire of ESC's to plug into the RX (just one will do but I do both).

I just scanned this picture out of my RCDriver Crawler issue.

BUT, they forgot to reinstall the power wire to the RX!

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...a/scan0005.jpg


I know this is confusing and if you need pictures I can go get them from my Berg.

Awsome thread!! "thumbsup" MODS I VOTE STICKY PLEASE!!!

I have been wanting a 4PK but was unsure of if it would be able to do what I wanted it to do. This thread has answered my questions, I will be getting one fore sure now. I love the idea of a variable speed winch. And if I am correct from my reading, not only are the 3rd 4th channels able to be programmed as 3 position switches (subject to the button/switch dial assigned) but up to 200 positions!!!!! Not to mention that any button,switch and or dial can be programmed!!!! Did I read that right? Cuase if so, I willl have to retire my 3pm to my son and upgrade!! Thanks for the great write up Harley "thumbsup"
FUTABA FOR LIFE!!!
-Mike

Yup, the 3rd and 4th channels are variable from 2-200 positions. If you can figure out a way to use all the features then I'll buy you a beer "thumbsup"

Thanks Harley. I was thinking the same thing when I was at the LHS but they didn't have a Y-harness in stock. I already did this setup on my other berg.

Can't you just plug the BEC into the vacant CH2 slot?

That is something I am not sure on either, I didn't do it because I already had BEC wired up the other way.

Take the signal wire out of the BEC RX plug and plug it into any available slot on the RX. I would recommend not cutting the signal wire, you will not be able to program it without it.

So I think I must be slow....or at least have a stupid question but this radio allows you to have front and rear steer and front and rear dig just like a DX6 correct??

Yes, it is a 4 channel radio.

Yup, I plan on doing it soon too. "thumbsup"

I stayed away from this thread before getting the radio, and messed around for an hour or so today. I found and programmed the exact same things you guys did :lol:

First I changed the functions to level 3 control--
Jog wheel-->
*menu-T-->
Select Type >level3
Select Exec -- Push + & -

Then I went back a screen (end) and now you can use the + and - buttons to select two whole screens of programming features. I set up mix 1 on the grip button to give front dig, one of the dials to control my rear wheel trim, and the other dial for front trim.

I am officially done with stick radios for comp use I think, so far I am very impressed with the control I have with the dial and button.

John are you using the latest style of programming we are using in this thread?

I origionally set it up with the front ESC on ch 2 and the rear on ch3. This would allow me to use a 3 channel rx if I needed to. With the 4ch rx it may be easiest to just use 3 and 4 for the ESCs. Then the BEC can go straight into ch 2 no problem.

That is what I was doing at first as well. I like this new setup much better now though. I just needed the kick in the head from Whoodie "thumbsup"

Glad you guys are getting the bugs worked out for me. Cant wait to catch up, and start pushing the limits on the 4PK "thumbsup"

Here is a video demonstrating the front and rear dig as well as on-the-fly adjustable mixing.

Updated on 5/15/2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5cYbFT45xg

step by step on the setup please...like the first setup but I'm liking the mixing on the fly...and utilize that full power of HH 35T when needed and when not needed on the rear esc...thanx harley...so simple"thumbsup"

Working on it now. Will be ready soon.

Setup:
Channel 1 - Steering Servo
Channel 2 - BEC (optional, if plugged in then remove power wires from ESC's)
Channel 3 - Front ESC
Channel 4 - Rear ESC


First go to Systm
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...a/IMG_3866.jpg


Change Disp-Sel: SRV-VIEW
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...a/IMG_3867.jpg


Go to Menu-T
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...a/IMG_3868.jpg


Change it to Level3 (make sure to go down to EXEC and push +/- at the same time)
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...a/IMG_3869.jpg


Go to PMIX1
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...a/IMG_3870.jpg


Set as such:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...a/IMG_3871.jpg


Go to PMIX2
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...a/IMG_3872.jpg


Set as such:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...a/IMG_3873.jpg


Go to SWTCH:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...a/IMG_3874.jpg


Set like so:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...a/IMG_3875.jpg


Go to DIAL:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...a/IMG_3876.jpg


The top two lines are the dials that control the rear mixing:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...a/IMG_3877.jpg




And that is it. That will give result with this setup. Feel free to PM me or post up any questions "thumbsup"

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...V017_WMVV9.jpg

Nice job Josh, I can see the 4PK in front of me with your instructions. Although I think I need glasses but still not bad :ror:

No glasses, my pics are just fuzzy :lol: but it is late and I didn't feel like adjusting the lighting :flipoff:

Hope you got your radio today, your welcome 8)

I am the laughing stock at the track because I bought this radio specifically for crawling.I am really happy with it.Its works awesome and cant wait to get this thing used with my berg build.Finally a sponsored driver that actually helps the customer base of the company he reps.Thanks!

Thank you almighty 4pk guru..."thumbsup"...my radio is alive....:shock:

Hey foo,check your pm's.

Glad to help guys "thumbsup"

I gotta "pay back" Futaba somehow, they take care of me real well ;-)

I got nothin..........

hey John...I got the same impression from the drift guys...$5 big bills for rock crawling...and I said yep...laughing with envy cause they know they want it...:ror::ror::ror:now I need to get a paging alarm for this thing...:lol::lol:Thanks again harley...good way to promote their product...customer service...

You were running it at the last Nor-Cal comp weren't you? Hope the new setup works for ya.

Sorry man,meant slip408....."thumbsup"

Dont worry I will be pm'ing you soon enough!

No...I was using DSM airtronic M11...last comp...did ok on the first course until I got a call for my on-call service job @ Ukiah...and I was pissed cause they needed the equipment...so I rushed the rest of the courses...I gave back my 1.9 score card to Dean...and told him next time...1.9

Could the 4PK be used on a super for rear str and still be able to do digs or dose the mixxing not allow that many functions? I read thru all the examples but didn't see what I was looking for.