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Old 08-05-2020, 02:02 PM   #21
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40kg can be enough ;)
I have lower power servos in a few rigs but when someone wants more power for their application it is never too much.
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Old 08-05-2020, 03:48 PM   #22
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So lets's exaggerate the servo arm to be 2 inches. That means the servo can lift/push 450 oz. That's 28 POUNDS! Of course that's exaggerating the servo arm to be 2 inches. Anything less will only make that 28 pounds larger.

We really need more than that for our 1/10 purposes?
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900 ounce inches is 56.25 pound inches. these specs cant be compared directly to pounds

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Please read my post again. It's saying the same thing you are saying and yes you can compare torque to pounds if you know the length of the moment arm. In my example I was assuming 2 inches to be overly conservative to arrive at the pound number.
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Old 08-05-2020, 04:15 PM   #23
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Please read my post again. It's saying the same thing you are saying and yes you can compare torque to pounds if you know the length of the moment arm. In my example I was assuming 2 inches to be overly conservative to arrive at the pound number.
you are correct. my mistake. this 900 oz in also means the servo makes 4.7 lbft torque. just seems almost unbelievable for the size

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Old 08-05-2020, 04:21 PM   #24
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you are correct. my mistake. this 900 oz in also means the servo makes 4.7 lbft torque. just seems almost unbelievable for the size

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No problem. Yes, that is unbelievable like you said, more like incredible. And all our rigs are under 10 lbs and that's VERY conservative. So a 900 oz. servo...
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No problem. Yes, that is unbelievable like you said, more like incredible. And all our rigs are under 10 lbs and that's VERY conservative. So a 900 oz. servo...


Yea it's pretty good. I have 2290s in 5 rigs and I'm not taking them out anytime soon.
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No problem. Yes, that is unbelievable like you said, more like incredible. And all our rigs are under 10 lbs and that's VERY conservative. So a 900 oz. servo...
I used to be of the thought that cheap servos ruled and they were "good enough". Well the truth is that they are "good enough" for my average trail rigs. But once you get a fast and super powerful servo you don't want to go back.
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I used to be of the thought that cheap servos ruled and they were "good enough". Well the truth is that they are "good enough" for my average trail rigs. But once you get a fast and super powerful servo you don't want to go back.
Me too. I used to shy away from having to use BECs too.....

I'd still get some of those cheapies as backups, but I definitely like the stronger/faster servos now.
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Old 08-06-2020, 06:51 AM   #28
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Me too. I used to shy away from having to use BECs too.....



I'd still get some of those cheapies as backups, but I definitely like the stronger/faster servos now.
I see so many "do I really need a bec" posts still, usually mated to a "my ESC has a 7v bec". I like pointing at the amps at that point

Not much competition for savox and the 2290 but I still love my Promodeler 470. It's soo smooth and quiet.

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Me too. I used to shy away from having to use BECs too.....

I'd still get some of those cheapies as backups, but I definitely like the stronger/faster servos now.
Oh I still avoid external BEC's at all costs!
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Old 08-07-2020, 02:55 PM   #30
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Rc Review tested the 2290 and it barely broke 500oz. Kinda disappointing since I own 2 of them. https://youtu.be/yhcCDPBdjyE
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The good thing about going through a cheap servo phase is having a bunch of winch servos to play with.
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Old 08-07-2020, 05:40 PM   #32
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Rc Review tested the 2290 and it barely broke 500oz. Kinda disappointing since I own 2 of them. https://youtu.be/yhcCDPBdjyE

I always watch Francis and have the salt shaker nearby. His unbiased test is OK, but look at his rig for testing. The servo arm must me 60mm.... that will drastically change torque to the tires, most servos specs are rated with 20mm arms?


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I always watch Francis and have the salt shaker nearby. His unbiased test is OK, but look at his rig for testing. The servo arm must me 60mm.... that will drastically change torque to the tires, most servos specs are rated with 20mm arms?


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I agree with ya, his testing is entertainment.

The length of the arm though shouldn't matter, the servo is pulling up, the arm is just a linkage, doesn't matter how long it is. If the servo horn was 60mm, that'd be a different story.
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I agree with ya, his testing is entertainment.

The length of the arm though shouldn't matter, the servo is pulling up, the arm is just a linkage, doesn't matter how long it is. If the servo horn was 60mm, that'd be a different story.
I bet the arm is 26mm/1inch
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I agree with ya, his testing is entertainment.

The length of the arm though shouldn't matter, the servo is pulling up, the arm is just a linkage, doesn't matter how long it is. If the servo horn was 60mm, that'd be a different story.
The length of the arm most surely does matter. Rule of leverage. Try picking up a weight tied to a 10" stick, easy. Make that stick 20" and it will be much harder to lift. It's on a much smaller scale, but you bet it makes a difference.
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Old 08-08-2020, 06:26 AM   #36
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Arm length doesn’t change the servo, it does change the effect on the linkage.
I did try this on my Bullyll, a double length horn did cut the reaction dramatically.

Here’s a good read: https://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/aer...rm-length.html


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He's not changed the length of the servo horn though. Look at the video again, it's a standard length servo horn.

The stick analogy doesn't work because the leverage is all on the servo horn, the linkage length is irrelevant, the linkage is not a lever in his test, the servo horn is.
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The length of the arm most surely does matter. Rule of leverage. Try picking up a weight tied to a 10" stick, easy. Make that stick 20" and it will be much harder to lift. It's on a much smaller scale, but you bet it makes a difference.
Unless that stick is straight up and down. Imagine holding a bucket and lifting it, now put that bucket on the ground, tie a rope to it and lift it.

It'll take the same amount of force, in his test, the arm is the same as the rope in my example. There is no leverage on the arm, it's all on the servo horn.
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Arm length doesn’t change the servo, it does change the effect on the linkage.
I did try this on my Bullyll, a double length horn did cut the reaction dramatically.

Here’s a good read: https://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/aer...rm-length.html


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Yes, of course doubling the length of the servo horn will have an effect.

Is that what you've been talking about??? You said arm so I thought you meant the silver linkage arm, not the horn itself.
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Yes, of course doubling the length of the servo horn will have an effect.

Is that what you've been talking about??? You said arm so I thought you meant the silver linkage arm, not the horn itself.

Yup, sorry, Horn and Arm are interchangeable. It looks as Francis is using a longer horn than 20/25mm


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