would anybody be interested in custom wound crawling motors?

[gregrocks90046]

i'm thinking if the integy motor is always going to be out of stock, why not wind my own motor? if this is something that others are interested in, i would be willing to pass out a few for beta testing. nice, high quality, ball bearing, hand wound crawling motors.

what do you think?

[syco133]

I say go for it if you can man, Ill be the first one to test one if need be I already have some lathe motors to test them against. I can also have your motor dynoed if you would like no charge.

[gemiller]

Oooo Oooo pick me pick me for testing

[superdenk]

I think it sounds like a great idea. Keep us posted please.

[mike]

id love to do some testing. or i could buy one if they turn out allright

[bubbacheechee]

I would definately do some testing for ya

[badger]

Originally Posted by gregrocks90046

i'm thinking if the integy motor is always going to be out of stock, why not wind my own motor? if this is something that others are interested in, i would be willing to pass out a few for beta testing. nice, high quality, ball bearing, hand wound crawling motors.

what do you think?

I'd say before you go building your own motor, give the Magnetic Mahem a shot. That motor is awsome and a great alternative to the lathe motor.

I am almost eating my own words saying the lathe motor might be the perfect motor for the 2.2's and TXT. The Lathe is probably still the best motor for the clods because of the gear reduction problem.

[99chevy84]

i think it would be a good idea and i would be willing to do some testing

[AdamF]

Honestly I think the lathe motor is too slow in a clod, with 9t pinions that is. I really liked my mag mayhems with 9t pinions. They have more than enough torque, and plenty of wheel speed. The only thing I like better about the lathes is the run time.

[SiameseDog]

thatw ouold be great if you could creat your own 'crawling' motor!!that would save a lot of time waiting on Integy to restock the Matrix's. I have been waiting for months everytime there in stock they are only in for a day or two. If you make enough ill be glad to test it!

[gregrocks90046]

well, looks like more than enough interest. if you guys are up to it, post your pros and cons about the integy and magnetic mayhem(if you havent already.) hand wound motors can be tweaked, and i'm learning some motor secrets from a old timer.

[Emaxximuss78]

If they turn out ok what would you sell them for?
Im new to the crawleing and I runa atock maxx

[gregrocks90046]

not sure of the price yet, of course. have to figure for a can, endbell, armature, arm wire, brushes & springs, and labor. this is not something i would try to make a living at, so pricing would be fair.

[syco133]

Just remember that im first in line to get one, buy it or test i dont care.

[GReddy]

i wanna test em too since im guesing ill be a long while b4 i get a lathe motor

[RockDragon]

Originally Posted by gregrocks90046

..... others are interested in, i would be willing to pass out a few for beta testing. ....... hand wound crawling motors.

what do you think?

I'd love to see your testing results.


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[gregrocks90046]

it's going to take a little while, fellas. i need to order the parts, build them up, and test them myself before sending them out for testing. it may take a month or two, but i'll get some done and out to crawlers.

[badger]

Originally Posted by gregrocks90046

it's going to take a little while, fellas. i need to order the parts, build them up, and test them myself before sending them out for testing. it may take a month or two, but i'll get some done and out to crawlers.

Just a friendly reminder, if you want to start selling those on RCCrawler you will need to purchase a vendor star.

[gregrocks90046]

absolutely! i want to support the community.

[kaetwo]

GregRocks you requested a comparison between the Meyhem and the 55x1. Here is what I've found:

I'll compare them in a clodbuster if thats okay.

55x1

PROS:
1- The first thing that comes to mind is runtime. Depending on which crawler I'm using it in I get anywhere from 1 hour to 2+ hours with a 1.18 Matched 3300 Pro-Matched Pack.
2- Heat. Due to the fact that there running between 6700-7200RPM (depending on the motor via a Comp electronics dyno) They run very cool. They run extremely efficient at this range.
3- Comm and Brush wear. Almost nil. After running a stock 55x1 motor (stock brushes and springs) I found that the wear and heat damage to the brushes where almost non-existant.
4- SMOOTH SMOOTH SMOOTH. These are extremly smooth, due to the 55 turns. This makes hitting opsticles much easier. And for those individuals that are not running a radio with Throttle EXP, you'll really appreciate how smooth they really are. Much easier to drive.
5- Small Can. The length of the motor is great! Much smaller than the Meyhems.
6- Bearings...This also adds to the smooth feel and reduced heat, which = more runtime.
7- Adjustable timing. You can dial down the motor or increase its power band (for lack of a better term). Not having to run a "Reversed Motor" sure is a nice feature. For those of us with a dyno this allows for a more finely tuned motor.
8- Rebuildable. What I mean by this is that you can simply take the motor appart. Great for cleaning, rebuilding, tuning (centering the arm, etc...) Shoot you can even ZAP the magnets. And not to mention its easier to cut the comm.
9- Cheap!
10- And last but not least, the stickers on the 55x1's are easy to remove. :-)

CONS:
1- Hard to get now
2- Perhaps the RPM's of the motor are a bit low. However this can be tuned with brushes, springs and timming. Depending on whether I'm running them in my large crawler or my 2.2, I'll tune the motor for more torque or RPM.

Meyhem

PROS:
1- Great RPM motor. If your the kind of person that loves the wheel spin then this motor works great!
2- Easy to get
3- A no brainer type of setup. Just buy the foreward and reversed version and run.
4- Bushings add to the downhill braking (coast brake) Some guys love this.
5- Larger Can means more magnetic field (or at least it should :-)
6- Cost is great!

CONS:
1- Large can size. This can somtime get in the way of the lower links on a clod.
2- Run time. There not bad, but not as good as the 55x1's.
3- Bushings. I'm not a big fan.
4- Not easily rebuildable, tunable, and its takes a stock comm lathe to cut.
5- No adjustable timing. At least thats easy to do.

Thats a brief summary of what I've come across.

Personally I use the 55x1's most of the time. I run them with about 10 deg. of timing, full face serated high silver brushes, an extra heavy spring on the Pos post and a Med on the Neg. (hard soldered) I also center the arm and the hood.

Hope that helps.

I too wouldn't mind being a ginnie pig. It's always too fun.