novak 4.5r brushless

[Reflection]

Originally Posted by brendan h

the motor can says 35t as far as i know. i just cheak the 55t motor and it does say 55t. just cheaked the gearing also and it is what i said.

I'm not REAL sure I wouldn't eliminate the chance of a 55t or 65t stator being inside a 35t can. They are Integy motors....correct?

[JohnRobHolmes]

Swap batteries.

[brendan h]

yes integry motors
ill go have a quick play now. both are fully charged

CONCLUSION- batterys like you guys said. the 35t motor rig weight 3kg so ita half a kg heavyer then the 55t rig. i put my new (1st charge) intelect 3000mah battery in the 55t and did a couple of speed runs i think its the tires giving it the speed as you can hear the motor isnt reving fast.
try the 35t on my original battery. its an epic 3000mah and had it for nilly 2 years now i think.you could hear the motor was spinning faster and not realy going as fast as it should. so i put on the new battery in the 35t leaving the old one in so adding more weight as well and you can defently hear it spinning faster! speed wise was an inprovment.

i thinking of getting a new 35t motor run2jeep i think selles them 35t more with 3 time the torque of a standar 35t?

[JohnRobHolmes]

Originally Posted by brendan h

i thinking of getting a new 35t motor run2jeep i think selles them 35t more with 3 time the torque of a standar 35t?

It is just a 35t motor with aligned hoods and good springs, it won't have any more power than another hand wound 35t. They are nice motors though.


Sounds like you need new batteries more than new motors.

[brendan h]

Originally Posted by JohnRobHolmes

It is just a 35t motor with aligned hoods and good springs, it won't have any more power than another hand wound 35t. They are nice motors though.


Sounds like you need new batteries more than new motors.

i was told by the guy who makes them they have time motor power at 7.2v?

yes i need a nother battery pack. is there any other way to squze more power from the 35t? or at least get somthing that has simalar torque but more speed?

[Reflection]

Originally Posted by brendan h

yes i need a nother battery pack. is there any other way to squze more power from the 35t? or at least get somthing that has simalar torque but more speed?

Ditch the brushes and add a 3 cell lipo.

[run2jeepn]

Originally Posted by JohnRobHolmes

It is just a 35t motor with aligned hoods and good springs, it won't have any more power than another hand wound 35t. They are nice motors though.

Wrong... They Have a completely different winding, Wire and baking process used on these motors then other Lathes. They do produce more Torque then other Handwound Lathes... It's already been proven on the Dyno..

These 35t Warrior motors will produce the Same torque at half the Voltage the other lathes are producing...

I can't explain it all, but if you need more info I'll get it for you John.

[JohnRobHolmes]

I will certainly take more info. I would like to see how they made a 35t perform unlike a 35t. Ceramic magnets, same armature size, tuned can, the power has to come from somewhere. More torque than what other lathe motors, 55t? A lower turn motor will always make more torque than a higher wind on the same voltage.

[brendan h]

Originally Posted by run2jeepn

Wrong... They Have a completely different winding, Wire and baking process used on these motors then other Lathes. They do produce more Torque then other Handwound Lathes... It's already been proven on the Dyno..

These 35t Warrior motors will produce the Same torque at half the Voltage the other lathes are producing...

I can't explain it all, but if you need more info I'll get it for you John.

worth getting then if it has more torque then ill thereticly get more speed as the torque will help push the weight along?

[JohnRobHolmes]

Originally Posted by brendan h

worth getting then if it has more torque then ill thereticly get more speed as the torque will help push the weight along?

Only if the kv value is higher or you gear up as compared to your 35t. If your motor is in bad condition you will notice an improvement no matter what.

[run2jeepn]

Here is the 40t Prototype I tested. I haven't got a new Dyno sheet on the New 35t's Yet. Just E-mails... But the 35t was producing much more power. I also know that we can only make these in 35t with these power at this moment. We can make a 40t, but it will be a little weaker.... Here is the numbers on the 40t Prototype Warrior. Like I said the 35t Warrior is better.


P.S.... Here is a little more info on the 35t Warrior
A little more info I got in.

The 35t is a 12v Motor and runs fine a 11.1v.

The 35T Warrior will produce 11,800 RPM's at 11.1v

At 3000-4000 RPM's is when it Maxes out the Dyno and we can't read the Torque Numbers anymore. We had the Dyno reworked to take Higher Voltages. Still working on the readings at higher Volts, but this maybe awhile.

[JohnRobHolmes]

Originally Posted by run2jeepn

They Have a completely different winding, Wire and baking process used on these motors then other Lathes.

There are two ways to wind a 3 slot motor, with one strand or multiple strand. Single strand is best for lowest amp draw if full copper packing is achieved. Normal lathe motors already use this.

Baking winds can solidify them as a unit, making it less prone to throwing a wind. No performance edge here, only structural integrity.

Motor wire has different softness of copper, and different grades of enamel coating. Unless your motor winders have a new special super copper there won't be a large improvement over any other wire. The main differences between enamel coating is the temperature rating. No performance edge here, unless you like to run your motors past 100C.

[brendan h]

nice. so the 35t warrior is the way to go? how can i get the most out of it?

[run2jeepn]

I'll Send him a link to this Thread and have him E-Mail me his thoughts and answers. He probley won't want to let any huge secerts out. I'm sure you understand on that part. But I'll give ya what I can to help answer all the questions.

[JohnRobHolmes]

And what "dyno" is this being used? The Wattage in and efficiency out doesn't even match up. Got any third party testing on these with quantitative measurements?

[JohnRobHolmes]

Originally Posted by run2jeepn

I'll Send him a link to this Thread and have him E-Mail me his thoughts and answers. He probley won't want to let any huge secerts out. I'm sure you understand on that part. But I'll give ya what I can to help answer all the questions.

Feel free. I have been tweaking and building motors long enough to figure out what is going on.

Secrets.

[brendan h]

so in conclusion what do i need?

[JohnRobHolmes]

Originally Posted by brendan h

so in conclusion what do i need?

New motor and new batteries would do you good. Im sure Run2jeepin can hook you up with a great new 35t.

[brendan h]

alrighty thanks. ok back to this 35t motor not matching up or somthing

[JohnRobHolmes]

You already found that your battery is bad, if you have a lot of runtime on the motor the comm and brushes are probably glazed. Got a local hobby shop or know any place that people race RC?