Element IFS kit

[letrbuk]

Does anyone know is the IFS conversion kit is discontinued for good or is a new version coming out. I’m just wondering if I should buy one before you can’t find them anywhere.

[HumboldtEF]

RPP has them in stock.

It does look to be gone from the AE/Element website so they may be revising it. But since they now offer the Knightrunner with the IFS kit they cant get rid of it just yet. If they do plan to revise it and say raise the bulkhead up a bit it could be worth the wait.

[durok]

It's possible that since Knight Customs has just come up with a modification that provides more ground clearance, they might be about to use his design for production.

At least that's my hope!

[letrbuk]

Yeah maybe I’ll wait a little while and see if they announce anything.

[Screwfly]

I was going to pick one up soon too, but might be worth waiting.

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[GrimmTheTourist]

Would be great, if they update the ifs kit. I installed the Knight Customs chassis armor, and it is an ok design.
But driveshaft, servo position and geometry has to be modified. So it takes a bit more, then just replacing parts. Running larger tires will also be difficult, depending on the body of course.
Without changing the geometry, the bump steer is really bad.

I would definitely buy the molded parts, if the are available, to replace the printed ones.

[tigris99]

Originally Posted by GrimmTheTourist

Would be great, if they update the ifs kit. I installed the Knight Customs chassis armor, and it is an ok design.

But driveshaft, servo position and geometry has to be modified. So it takes a bit more, then just replacing parts. Running larger tires will also be difficult, depending on the body of course.

Without changing the geometry, the bump steer is really bad.



I would definitely buy the molded parts, if the are available, to replace the printed ones.

Get the bowhouse upgrade for the steering, makes a world of difference. I couldn't believe how bad the steering geo was not to mention how sloppy until I changed it.

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[GrimmTheTourist]

Thanks for the hint.
I have the the steering rack upgrade, but it doesnt work anymore with the lift kit. I had to use the original parts. You can see it on the second to last picture. With the bowhouse parts, the steering links would be way to low.
Maybe the steering bell crank upgrade would work. But with this setup, I almost have zero bump steer now. Still a bit sloppy though, but it works.

[Phyro]

I am hoping the shock towers get changed as well. Would love a mount that puts the pivot point parallel to the chassis instead of perpendicular.


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[Panther6834]

So, I just picked up a Gatekeeper Kit a few days ago (yes, I know... REAL late to the game), and decided to get the IFS kit. Only problem (has others have pointed out) is that it is discontinued (NOTE:. RPP Hobby has some). Talking with the manager of the LHS I was at, I might have found out the reason "why". For obvious reasons, he couldn't state anything 'specific', but he was able to 'hint' a few things.

Taking the "puzzle pieces" he gave me, and trying to solve the 'puzzle', this is what I've come up with...but, this is only a 'theory' based on the info provided. However, before I provide my 'theory', there is some "concrete" information he gave me. All of the currently available individual parts for the IFS will continue to be available. Take that for what it's worth, and combine it with what I'm about to say, and you will see how my 'theory' makes sense.

It appears to be a strong possibility/probability that Element RC is preparing to release an Enduro kit that includes the IFS. As for *which* Enduro kit this might be, I have not the slightest clue. But, considering the IFS Conversion Kit is "discontinued", but the individual parts will remain 'available', this theory (as I said, above) makes sense.

Taking this theorizing one step further, consider the Axial SCX10.2 & SCX10.3, SSD Trail King Pro, and RC4WD TF 2/3 kits, none of which include bodies. What if Element RC or to be preparing the release of a new Enduro kit that included everything needed for a standard 3-link front, as well as IFS? When Axial first related the Ryft, there was no 2-speed. Many months later, they released the 2-speed transmission conversion kit...similar to how Element RC released the IFS kit many months after the release of the Enduro. The same hills true for the Ryft sway bar kit, released several months after the RTR. Then, several months after the release of the Ryft 2-speed transmission conversion kit, Axial released the Ryft Builders Kit...and, included in the kit was everything needed to build both versions of the transmission, as well as the sway bar.

Could it be possible that Element RC is preparing to do something similar with the Enduro kit? This "inquiring mind" already had his 'wheels' turning. I'm guessing, by April (if not sooner), the answer will be known.


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[smog]

Originally Posted by HumboldtEF

RPP has them in stock.

It does look to be gone from the AE/Element website so they may be revising it. But since they now offer the Knightrunner with the IFS kit they cant get rid of it just yet. If they do plan to revise it and say raise the bulkhead up a bit it could be worth the wait.

A raised bulkhead would be brilliant. If they could coax some steering out of it while they are at it...

[tigris99]

Originally Posted by smog

A raised bulkhead would be brilliant. If they could coax some steering out of it while they are at it...

How much more steering you need lol. Already good to have steering stops cause axles r at their limits

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[HumboldtEF]

Well my buddy just asked me about this and out of curiosity I priced it out as if I was buying all the parts individually (straight form AE). It comes to about $160

Maybe this was losing them money and it was easier for them to just pull it than raise the price by 60%.

Its probably cheaper to buy a kit or RTR for the IFS then part it out or re-use the other parts.

[ScaleLifeNewbie]

Originally Posted by HumboldtEF

Its probably cheaper to buy a kit or RTR for the IFS then part it out or re-use the other parts.

That’s exactly what I’m doing for my next build. Figured I could use a spare chassis/trans/shocks etc.


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[Speedy-Triple]

Originally Posted by HumboldtEF

Well my buddy just asked me about this and out of curiosity I priced it out as if I was buying all the parts individually (straight form AE). It comes to about $160

Maybe this was losing them money and it was easier for them to just pull it than raise the price by 60%.

Its probably cheaper to buy a kit or RTR for the IFS then part it out or re-use the other parts.

^^^
I missed out on the IFS kit when it was available ... mostly because at the time I was not really interested in the element platform. Well lately I been eyeing the knightrunner because I like to have a variety of platforms with different suspension set ups. Wanted to wait for the new blue RTR but the gatekeeper kit was too good to pass up ... $ 206 at amain ... thats the route i am taking since I scored a lightly used IFS from a member here ... so here I go diving into the enduro platform. Got a clear body that I can choose the theme and will be more of a prerunner set up. IFS with trailing arms on the back ... maybe SSD bulkhead and diamond rear axle. CAN YOU SEE THE EXITMENT!!!

[B-MOW71]

Originally Posted by Speedy-Triple

^^^
I missed out on the IFS kit when it was available ... mostly because at the time I was not really interested in the element platform. Well lately I been eyeing the knightrunner because I like to have a variety of platforms with different suspension set ups. Wanted to wait for the new blue RTR but the gatekeeper kit was too good to pass up ... $ 206 at amain ... thats the route i am taking since I scored a lightly used IFS from a member here ... so here I go diving into the enduro platform. Got a clear body that I can choose the theme and will be more of a prerunner set up. IFS with trailing arms on the back ... maybe SSD bulkhead and diamond rear axle. CAN YOU SEE THE EXITMENT!!!

I can see the excitement and glad to see that you're giving the Element platform a try! I don't think you'll be disappointed!

The GK Kit is too good to pass up at the price it is at now! I just placed an order today for my third!

Looking forward to seeing what you have planned for it!

[DirtMerchant]

Originally Posted by Speedy-Triple

^^^
I missed out on the IFS kit when it was available ... mostly because at the time I was not really interested in the element platform. Well lately I been eyeing the knightrunner because I like to have a variety of platforms with different suspension set ups. Wanted to wait for the new blue RTR but the gatekeeper kit was too good to pass up ... $ 206 at amain ... thats the route i am taking since I scored a lightly used IFS from a member here ... so here I go diving into the enduro platform. Got a clear body that I can choose the theme and will be more of a prerunner set up. IFS with trailing arms on the back ... maybe SSD bulkhead and diamond rear axle. CAN YOU SEE THE EXITMENT!!!

Definitely seeing the excitement! It's a nice kit, and an IFS-trailing arm prerunner will make for a lot of fun.

[Speedy-Triple]

Originally Posted by B-MOW71

I can see the excitement and glad to see that you're giving the Element platform a try! I don't think you'll be disappointed!

The GK Kit is too good to pass up at the price it is at now! I just placed an order today for my third!

Looking forward to seeing what you have planned for it!

Thanks a lot your R&D helped a lot on the decision... I am sure it wont disappoint as I been lurking and hearing all the rave about it... now with the GK bronze shocks and hard plastics it will be better than the RTR.

Originally Posted by DirtMerchant

Definitely seeing the excitement! It's a nice kit, and an IFS-trailing arm prerunner will make for a lot of fun.

yes I plan on sending it scale

[tigris99]

Originally Posted by HumboldtEF

Well my buddy just asked me about this and out of curiosity I priced it out as if I was buying all the parts individually (straight form AE). It comes to about $160



Maybe this was losing them money and it was easier for them to just pull it than raise the price by 60%.



Its probably cheaper to buy a kit or RTR for the IFS then part it out or re-use the other parts.

Actually with gatekeeper kit price right now, cheapest route is buy gatekeeper and then do ifs. Especially if you want to used the Hard control arms and other upgrade parts in the IFS.

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[ScaleLifeNewbie]

Originally Posted by tigris99

Actually with gatekeeper kit price right now, cheapest route is buy gatekeeper and then do ifs. Especially if you want to used the Hard control arms and other upgrade parts in the IFS.

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It’s cheaper if you can find IFS kit, but not with buying every piece separate. You can get the Trailrunner Fire for $349.


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