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Old 04-14-2009, 02:18 PM   #1
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Well, after buying and crawling my first Axial rig, then building another Axial rig from the ground up (my current crawler). I thought I'd give a try at building a Berg axled crawler.

So I started gathering parts...
CDW MOA 1.0 Chassis
Couple of Berg axles
5/16" Delrin with REVO rod ends for the links (May change to 5/16" steel later)
Hitec HS-55 Dig servo
Couple of Dig switches
JPCustoms rear lockouts
Avid bearings
Robinson metric 12T & 13T pinion gears

I have a Hitec 5995TG servo I was going to use for steering. I planned on pulling my CC Mamba Max ESC, Spektrum SR3500 RX and HB Rovers from my current Axial crawler for this build. I still need to order a couple HH 35T motors, Axial axle stubs, VP High Steering Knuckles and eventually would like to get some Mayhem wheels.

I was planning on running the front axle un-clocked to begin with, then see if it is needed once I get it on some rocks... What are your guys' experiences with this? I've read a lot of info before starting this build, but if you guys' have any suggestions, or things that didn't work for you, please post up! It's all about learning for me, and I know I have plenty more to learn!!

Here are a few "starter" pictures... More to follow.




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Old 04-14-2009, 02:35 PM   #2
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looks nice... i see that we are about 10 miles from each other and both bulding bergs... check it out
robbio's berg build
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Old 04-14-2009, 02:46 PM   #3
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looks nice... i see that we are about 10 miles from each other and both bulding bergs... check it out
robbio's berg build
Your build is coming together nicely!
We'll have to find some local rocks and test them out once they're both complete.
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Old 04-14-2009, 03:17 PM   #4
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Your build is coming together nicely!
We'll have to find some local rocks and test them out once they're both complete.
check out this spot. i know its a bit far north but hot damn!
skagit county crawling
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Old 04-14-2009, 03:59 PM   #5
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check out this spot. i know its a bit far north but hot damn!
skagit county crawling
I'm game, got a buddy who's going up there to check it out Thursday.
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Old 04-14-2009, 06:16 PM   #6
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nice, before you start building rig, buy one of mr. chumps dig plates. super nice set up. and ask mr. chump about his steering kit.

also, get some of fubars rear lockouts from mthead.

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Old 04-15-2009, 01:22 PM   #7
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youll be VERRY happy with it , i have one and LOVE IT i cant say enough about it i run mine @ 2.25 " it droops to 3.25 "with pathers will crawl over it seems anything you put in front of it .
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nice, before you start building rig, buy one of mr. chumps dig plates. super nice set up. and ask mr. chump about his steering kit.

also, get some of fubars rear lockouts from mthead.
I'm going to be mounting my dig servo and switches differently then Yotachump's plate mounts them, though I do like his design. I've considered his steering, but I'm still undecided. Hoping I can make something myself that will work about the same.

Fubars lockouts are nice, but I already have lockouts coming from JPCustoms...

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youll be VERRY happy with it , i have one and LOVE IT i cant say enough about it i run mine @ 2.25 " it droops to 3.25 "with pathers will crawl over it seems anything you put in front of it .
I'm very excited to get it all together, but trying to plan it all out before just throwing it all together... Not sure what my skid is at yet, still waiting on shocks. I'll be trying my HB Rovers first for the added ground clearance, but if they don't cut it, then I'll throw my Panthers on.

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Old 04-15-2009, 05:02 PM   #9
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nice start i love my cdw moa
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Old 04-16-2009, 08:52 AM   #10
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Some updated pictures...

Belly height @ 3" should be about right.







Showing the straight upper links.


Time to start soldering and wiring... Still need to find another pair of Losi shocks for the rear, and am waiting on some Holmes 35T motors to come in too! Then after this weekend's comp I'll pull all electronics from my shafty to bring this one alive!
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Nice build, looking good......I think I see a problem though....The upper links already look like there hitting the case,when you try to compress the rear, its not going to like it.
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Old 04-16-2009, 09:53 AM   #12
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Awesome build up man..Looks good so far..
Can't wait to see it done and on the rocks..
Now,Do work son!!
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Old 04-16-2009, 09:58 AM   #13
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Nice build, looking good......I think I see a problem though....The upper links already look like there hitting the case,when you try to compress the rear, its not going to like it.
Thanks!
Good eye! Ya, I noticed that it's real close. Not touching yet, but real close. Might have to shorten the uppers a little. I'll wait to see what it looks like once the rear shocks are finally on, then roll it down as needed.

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Old 04-16-2009, 10:03 AM   #14
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Awesome build up man..Looks good so far..
Can't wait to see it done and on the rocks..
Now,Do work son!!
Thanks, I can't wait to see it on the rocks either...
I'm getting real antsy!
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No pullin yer junk apart though until you get all your parts, I wanna see ya blow up both diffs in yer old crawler
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No pullin yer junk apart though until you get all your parts, I wanna see ya blow up both diffs in yer old crawler
Got to pull it apart, need the ESC and RX to finish the Berg!

The "old crawler" has Axial HD standard ratio gears up front and their HD lower ratio gears in the rear diff, plus SS lockers in both ends... I think my days of broken diffs are gone, next weak link seems to be axles!

Plus, I need to sell those diffs to recover some of the Berg build cost... just ask my wife!:-(
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Yebbut... you need a crawler for sunday sunday sunday...
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Old 04-17-2009, 11:01 AM   #18
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Yebbut... you need a crawler for sunday sunday sunday...
Comp is on Saturday, but if you want to crawl Sunday I'll wait til Monday to rip it apart...
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Old 04-19-2009, 06:05 PM   #19
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No pullin yer junk apart though until you get all your parts, I wanna see ya blow up both diffs in yer old crawler
Damn you! Your wish came true and you weren't even there to see it!

My Axial took a bad beating on Saturday @ the Comp. First I broke an axle on going through the 2nd to last gate, by rolling off an off camber ledge, then while 3-wheelin it back up to get to the finish I bound the other axle while diggin around a corner and literately ripped the housing off with the "C" still attached, all within a foot of the finish! I was able to get to the finish and thankfully is was my last course of the day! Needless to say, quite a few people were impressed with the power of HH 7T puller motor!

So, needless to say my Axial junk is now all pulled apart and some things have now found their new place on the Berg. I'll have updated pictures either tonight or tomorrow, and maybe pictures of the Axial carnage too!

* Edit - Got some pics of the Carnage This is why I wanted to build a Berg! *


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Old 04-20-2009, 09:19 AM   #20
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More updated pictures...
Got all my electronics mounted and wired, except for my BEC.
Still need the motors and I'm still planning on shorten all of my servo wires too, for a nice clean look. Also I want to go thru the axles and replace all the factory bearings with some avid bearings that I have, and locktite every screw in the axles. I threw on a set of REVO shocks I had laying around, since they are the right eye-to-eye length, but will be pulling them in favor of some Losi shocks when the other pair arrive in my mailbox. Steering is factory right now, but I will see about changing that a little later on, I'm waiting on some lockouts that I ordered too.





Plenty of room under the reciever for the BEC

And a couple of pics with the new lid...




Hopefully I can get some motors soon and start getting used to the way it handles in time for the next comp...

I'll post more pictures once it's finally together and running...
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