recommended knuckle weight?

[nitrooxide]

Hi.

how much woud you guys say that is needed on the knuckles?

building a berg V3 Moa.

thanks.

[Calderwood]

Originally Posted by nitrooxide

Hi.

how much woud you guys say that is needed on the knuckles?

building a berg V3 Moa.

thanks.

That's impossible for anyone to say. There are way to many variables and you couldn't have supplied much less information.

[nitrooxide]

Originally Posted by nigels_world

That's impossible for anyone to say. There are way to many variables and you couldn't have supplied much less information.

so poor imagniation.

well or you coud say: i use in my set up bla bla bla
or depending on setup i woud use etc etc

say that my axels pure stock 250-300grams give or take.

hope that helps

regards

[Calderwood]

Originally Posted by nitrooxide

so poor imagniation.

well or you coud say: i use in my set up bla bla bla
or depending on setup i woud use etc etc

say that my axels pure stock 250-300grams give or take.

hope that helps

regards

Maybe some of the other guys will be able to pull a number out of a hat but I really don't think it will be worth much. Just think about the variables involved. Chassis, shocks, oil, pistons, springs, shock geometry, link geometry, link bias, wheels, hubs, electronics and their placement, foams, tires, terrain, driving style, temperature, preference...

There is a reason knuckle weights are adjustable.

[helhedded]

Originally Posted by nitrooxide

Hi.

how much woud you guys say that is needed on the knuckles?

building a berg V3 Moa.

thanks.

Simply put: enough weight to make the front heavier than the rear. This can be anywhere from 2-5oz per side. It really depends on your setup as already stated.

[Erik D_lux]

Youre going to get opinions all over the place on this, as said above....

I personally prefer as much as possible below the axle center line. As of late, I am tempted to even max out my entire knuckle above and below.

[nitrooxide]

Originally Posted by Erik D_lux

Youre going to get opinions all over the place on this, as said above....

I personally prefer as much as possible below the axle center line. As of late, I am tempted to even max out my entire knuckle above and below.

Are you not satisfied with below axel weight ?
Maxing out with your ultra light weights builds?

Thanks.

[SkaldidDog]

Originally Posted by helhedded

Simply put: enough weight to make the front heavier than the rear. This can be anywhere from 2-5oz per side. It really depends on your setup as already stated.

Or 8oz.

Originally Posted by Erik D_lux

Youre going to get opinions all over the place on this, as said above....

I personally prefer as much as possible below the axle center line. As of late, I am tempted to even max out my entire knuckle above and below.

Now this gentleman is after my heart.

I like one pound combined, way below the front axle...with forward bias.

[GEARSCIENCE]

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[Erik D_lux]

Originally Posted by nitrooxide

Are you not satisfied with below axel weight ?
Maxing out with your ultra light weights builds?

Thanks.

I am very satisfied with below the axle weight, I just want more and I am out of room below, so I am considering going above.

Originally Posted by SkaldidDog

Or 8oz.

Or 8.5oz

Originally Posted by SkaldidDog

Now this gentleman is after my heart.

Another way to put it would be that I am after your advice, which I cannot thank you enough for....

I have fun crawled with Mr. Gates more than once. Never felt like I had a chance at keeping up with the guy. What is his secret? He let me in on it and told me that it was more weight in the front. I tried it and have never looked back. Probably some of the best advice I have ever received was from this guy.

[Erik D_lux]

Also, I forgot to add,...

I run as much weight as possible for my terrain which is long, steep climbs. If I were to run rip rap, boulders or something of the sort, I would pull all that weight back off as I feel a lighter car works better in those situations.

[stubs179]

Originally Posted by SkaldidDog

Or 8oz.



Now this gentleman is after my heart.

I like one pound combined, way below the front axle...with forward bias.

Eric kept telling me how great the weight was. And after a comp where I suffered a lot due to lack of front weight I started running 6oz per side. Amazing! So I'm 4lb even with 12oz of knuckle weight.

[stubs179]

So around a 1/4 of your rigs weight should be knuckle weight? That's probably a good starting point anyway.

[Heido]

Originally Posted by GEARSCIENCE

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x2

I run my rig without knuckle weights and have the weight only slightly towards front. Suits the terrain we have very well.

[Crawllife]

I run about 4 oz per side. The truck is night and day different with and without the weight. Best thing for you to do is find a practice rock, try to climb it without weight and add weight until it feels like your making progress. I'm now at 4.3/4.4 lbs with that knuckle weight and the truck is super predictable. Erik once recommended a bit of balance and maybe adding an ounce to the rear. I tried for about a week and didn't care for it as much. For what it's worth, it's the only dlux part I've ever taken off my rig ;). The guys in my club ( some of them ) think 8 oz is crazy amounts of weight. It works for me.

[RcBro]

Originally Posted by Erik D_lux

Also, I forgot to add,...

I run as much weight as possible for my terrain which is long, steep climbs. If I were to run rip rap, boulders or something of the sort, I would pull all that weight back off as I feel a lighter car works better in those situations.

This is the key really in any situation. The rock you crawl on is just as important, and knowing when to load a knuckle vs not is key to success on comp day.

We here in Oregon have every rock one can think off. From slick rock, to rip rap to lava rock. My knuckle weights come on and off constantly.

high traction, load that knuckle son!!
Low traction, depends on the scenario but I usually just go with a mild forward bias
rip rap, light and nimble like a cat drinking milk from a saucer

I also have taken or removed weight for one course to the next depending on the obstacles set. This is why I encourage those to not limit themselves on the weight they have available and to play with adding and removing weight to there benefit.

How the weight is added in relation to the furthest out on the axle and below the axle center-line is also crucial to how much weight one needs and how it can or will benefit the truck in any given scenario should be taken into account.