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Eritex Inc. · 08-31-2009, 03:16 PM

Well, my truck is a pig compared to your feather

TattooKenny · 08-31-2009, 03:28 PM

So Rob, what do you think after seeing the Eritex rig on the calculator?

Eritex Inc. · 08-31-2009, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TattooKenny

So Rob, what do you think after seeing the Eritex rig on the calculator?

Not so fast, I am going to take some pictures of how I did it to verify I did it correctly. Give me about 45 minutes....

rob_b · 08-31-2009, 04:10 PM

Wow it's a lot better than I thought. Correcting for tire size the my bergs COG is .035" higher than Eritex's Losi. Can you weigh a front and rear tire for me? Also, it might be time to get rid of my GIANT bug body.

TattooKenny · 08-31-2009, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by rob_b

Wow it's a lot better than I thought. Correcting for tire size the my bergs COG is .035" higher than Eritex's Losi. Can you weigh a front and rear tire for me? Also, it might be time to get rid of my GIANT bug body.

Again, that's why I like a lighter rig. Put the weight where you want it! I hoping for a new chassis for the Losi soon. I don't need a chassis as wide as it is now since the MOA conversion.

I'd love something with a very narrow skid and just wide enough for my 3s lipo! It would need to be designed around the pullers though.

no2hud · 08-31-2009, 04:29 PM

You've been found out Ty........getting tired of my tail lights lately? MOA Losi spanking you getting you all tied up Ty? You can't hide on the boards buddy. Either way they both work better than the Ax, Harley's rig is very impressived and so is Ger's. You still won't beat us!

haha, you do really well with what you've got, why change.....

4xFord · 08-31-2009, 04:36 PM

Can one of you please PM me the calculator?

Thanks.

ThinkTank · 08-31-2009, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 4xFord

Can one of you please PM me the calculator?

Thanks.

X2 I could use that.

TattooKenny · 08-31-2009, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 4xFord

Can one of you please PM me the calculator?

Thanks.

X2

rob_b · 08-31-2009, 04:49 PM

I sent it to you this morning Kenny.

TattooKenny · 08-31-2009, 05:41 PM

Got it

Thanks daddy-0! What are you doing when you elevate the front? How? BTW, I'm the feather weight here! 4lb 8.5oz RTR with 3s lipo! I'm working on getting all the data worked up now.....

TLTRyan · 08-31-2009, 05:50 PM

I would like the calculator also please

My e-mail is atlrccrawler@yahoo.com

crawlinbronco · 08-31-2009, 05:57 PM

That calculator would be a nice item to have...think you can link me?

Eritex Inc. · 08-31-2009, 06:21 PM

This is how I did it...

Wheelbase - 12.375

Track width - 10.000

Front axle center line - 2.125

Elevated front center line - 8.625

Front weight level - 3.125

Passenger weight level - 3.25

Rear weight level - 3.000

Rear weight Elevated - 3.125

...that is how I got all my numbers, did I do it correctly?

Harvo · 08-31-2009, 06:32 PM

So does a Losi MOA still have a lower GC than a Berg without clocked axles?

One negative of the Losi that I have seen is that the worms prevent the rear from moving at all while front digging. This makes it harder to dig turn on grippy surfaces or when the truck is nose up almost vertical.

Insert fuzzy dream sequence here (What if... someone got the gearing right, adjusted the wheels for width, and ran a losi front axle and berg rear??? :?) end fuzzy dream sequence.

You'd still have the clearance and turning of the Losi in front, and the berg rear would allow the wheels to turn some while dig turning.... Just a thought...

Eritex Inc. · 08-31-2009, 06:39 PM

Oh ya, the scale was zeroed with the AL strip on it. Just in case you were wondering

Catweasel · 08-31-2009, 07:45 PM

This is Son of Cobbler. Bully axles,2 Integy 55t motors,Mtronics ESC and 4 cell Lipo. Soon to be fitted are 9/11 pinions and a Punk Dig.

TattooKenny · 08-31-2009, 07:47 PM

Ahead of axle - 8.6745"
Left outside Pass tire - 3.8109"
Height from ground - 2.2017"

71% weight up front

(Roll over angles)
Driver side - 69.6594 degrees
Pass side - 59.9832 degrees
Climbing - 75.7582 degrees
Descending - 58.3761 degrees

Looks like I'm not changing to much!

TattooKenny · 08-31-2009, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Harvo

So does a Losi MOA still have a lower GC than a Berg without clocked axles?

One negative of the Losi that I have seen is that the worms prevent the rear from moving at all while front digging. This makes it harder to dig turn on grippy surfaces or when the truck is nose up almost vertical.

Insert fuzzy dream sequence here (What if... someone got the gearing right, adjusted the wheels for width, and ran a losi front axle and berg rear??? :?) end fuzzy dream sequence.

You'd still have the clearance and turning of the Losi in front, and the berg rear would allow the wheels to turn some while dig turning.... Just a thought...

I don't have any prob digging on a grippy surface with my Losi? My Berg locks the rear when I short it and it has almost no roll and dig and turns fine....

rob_b · 08-31-2009, 07:58 PM

Looks like the same procedure I use

I really want to find a cheap 4 scale setup to really get serious about weight tuning.

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Originally Posted by Harvo

Insert fuzzy dream sequence here (What if... someone got the gearing right, adjusted the wheels for width, and ran a losi front axle and berg rear??? :?) end fuzzy dream sequence.

You'd still have the clearance and turning of the Losi in front, and the berg rear would allow the wheels to turn some while dig turning.... Just a thought...

Ive been thinking of a bastardized rig too

08-31-2009, 05:41 PM	#31
TattooKenny Who's your Daddy-0! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Augusta Posts: 5,009	Got it Thanks daddy-0! What are you doing when you elevate the front? How? BTW, I'm the feather weight here! 4lb 8.5oz RTR with 3s lipo! I'm working on getting all the data worked up now..... Last edited by TattooKenny; 08-31-2009 at 05:47 PM.

08-31-2009, 07:45 PM	#37
Catweasel Newbie Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Basingstoke UK Posts: 5	Bully Axles This is Son of Cobbler. Bully axles,2 Integy 55t motors,Mtronics ESC and 4 cell Lipo. Soon to be fitted are 9/11 pinions and a Punk Dig.

08-31-2009, 03:16 PM	#21
Eritex Inc. RCC Addict Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: in the woods Posts: 1,915	Well, my truck is a pig compared to your feather

08-31-2009, 03:28 PM	#22
TattooKenny Who's your Daddy-0! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Augusta Posts: 5,009	So Rob, what do you think after seeing the Eritex rig on the calculator?

08-31-2009, 04:10 PM	#24
rob_b I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: QC-AZ Posts: 2,352	Wow it's a lot better than I thought. Correcting for tire size the my bergs COG is .035" higher than Eritex's Losi. Can you weigh a front and rear tire for me? Also, it might be time to get rid of my GIANT bug body.

08-31-2009, 04:29 PM	#26
no2hud Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: omaha Posts: 128	You've been found out Ty........getting tired of my tail lights lately? MOA Losi spanking you getting you all tied up Ty? You can't hide on the boards buddy. Either way they both work better than the Ax, Harley's rig is very impressived and so is Ger's. You still won't beat us! haha, you do really well with what you've got, why change.....

08-31-2009, 04:36 PM	#27
4xFord I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Houston Posts: 3,761	Can one of you please PM me the calculator? Thanks.

08-31-2009, 04:49 PM	#30
rob_b I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: QC-AZ Posts: 2,352	I sent it to you this morning Kenny.

08-31-2009, 05:50 PM	#32
TLTRyan Rock Crawler Join Date: May 2006 Location: Georgia Posts: 876	I would like the calculator also please My e-mail is atlrccrawler@yahoo.com

08-31-2009, 05:57 PM	#33
crawlinbronco Gold Star Baby! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Oroville Posts: 104	That calculator would be a nice item to have...think you can link me?

08-31-2009, 06:21 PM	#34
Eritex Inc. RCC Addict Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: in the woods Posts: 1,915	This is how I did it... Wheelbase - 12.375 Track width - 10.000 Front axle center line - 2.125 Elevated front center line - 8.625 Front weight level - 3.125 Passenger weight level - 3.25 Rear weight level - 3.000 Rear weight Elevated - 3.125 ...that is how I got all my numbers, did I do it correctly?

08-31-2009, 06:32 PM	#35
Harvo I wanna be Dave Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: In the Dark Edges of your Mind Posts: 6,386	So does a Losi MOA still have a lower GC than a Berg without clocked axles? One negative of the Losi that I have seen is that the worms prevent the rear from moving at all while front digging. This makes it harder to dig turn on grippy surfaces or when the truck is nose up almost vertical. Insert fuzzy dream sequence here (What if... someone got the gearing right, adjusted the wheels for width, and ran a losi front axle and berg rear??? :?) end fuzzy dream sequence. You'd still have the clearance and turning of the Losi in front, and the berg rear would allow the wheels to turn some while dig turning.... Just a thought...

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08-31-2009, 06:39 PM	#36
Eritex Inc. RCC Addict Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: in the woods Posts: 1,915	Oh ya, the scale was zeroed with the AL strip on it. Just in case you were wondering

08-31-2009, 07:47 PM	#38
TattooKenny Who's your Daddy-0! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Augusta Posts: 5,009	Ahead of axle - 8.6745" Left outside Pass tire - 3.8109" Height from ground - 2.2017" 71% weight up front (Roll over angles) Driver side - 69.6594 degrees Pass side - 59.9832 degrees Climbing - 75.7582 degrees Descending - 58.3761 degrees Looks like I'm not changing to much!

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