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pipdango · 10-07-2004, 10:38 PM

What would you guys say is the biggest physical limitation of crawlers?

nktrnl · 10-08-2004, 04:12 AM

Tire sizes

CrawlinForLife · 10-08-2004, 06:26 AM

Gravity

Seriously, always seems to be ground clearance.

Jam1sstang · 10-08-2004, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by CrawlinForLife

Gravity

Seriously, always seems to be ground clearance.

Gravity.

And tire size, maybe speed,

CrawlinForLife · 10-08-2004, 07:27 AM

I took care of the speed problem, second gear is nice when you need a little more wheel speed to make something

As for tire size, I don't see it as one, because too big of a tire can limit you as well, due to a higher cog.

Jam1sstang · 10-08-2004, 07:36 AM

Yes, bigger tires do have there downside. But being able to clear larger rocks (IMO) is better than having a very low COG and not being able to clear anything.

Ace · 10-08-2004, 07:51 AM

In dirks case, the driver

Jam1sstang · 10-08-2004, 08:04 AM

8O

A lot of drivers could be considered that.

DirkDigler · 10-08-2004, 08:47 AM

Damn Andy! I thought we were friends?!?! Now that I may be moving, I'm sure all you Colorado boys will start chiming in with your little funnies now huh?

I don't think tire size is really that important. Most of the guys winning the comps are using smaller tires, like the Giant Tracs or Savage tires. I think the lack of tire traction is the killer. No company makes the perfect rubber compound for us crawlers. Nothing that really bites and sticks! When watching an rc crawler, you can see the rig's tires constantly breaking loose from where they are planted, which throws you off your line, kills your upward mobility and requires super low gearing to stay on track. I would love to see someone make a tire that is like gum!!! You wouldn't need to go over rocks with just clearance....you could pick a line and use the highest rocks for tire placement to get up and over obsticals....like you are supposed to.

CrawlinForLife · 10-08-2004, 09:44 AM

Yeah I agree to that. I think tire stick would help more then tire size. I am going to get a set of soft KRocks and treat the crap out of them with simple green to see what I can get them to do.

badger · 10-08-2004, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by CrawlinForLife

I am going to get a set of soft KRocks and treat the crap out of them with simple green to see what I can get them to do.

I think you could start with a much better tire then the KRocks and get even better performance.

CrawlinForLife · 10-08-2004, 09:52 AM

I like the scale look to them though.

What other tire would you go with then? Needs to go on Maxx wheels since I have beadlocks, and I don't want to have to hack the crap out of the tire. I play on rock, slick rock, dirt, and sand. And I am sure your going to say LST, but I don't know about those.

DirkDigler · 10-08-2004, 10:03 AM

Well,
I thought we were talking about performance limitations here......so we should throw the whole scale, realism thing out the door.

The best rubber compound that I've experienced is the soft Imex Jumbo Claw Dog. I just wish it was used on some of their other tire designs. It's really flexible and tacky. The Giant tracs also use the tackiest rubber out there. If the Giant trac was 7 inches tall and 3 inches wide, it might be the perfect tire.
The LST is a good tire but suffers from skinny, soft lugs. The lugs are so pliable, they don't want to grab ledges and pull but they do stick to surfaces well, even with much void area on the tread.

DirkDigler · 10-08-2004, 10:05 AM

I forgot to say that.....the new IMex clod Swamp Dog tire may be the best new tire....if they used their soft compound. The design, in my opinion, is the best for rc crawling. The size seems to be good. The sidewall looks to be about right. Mounted on a narrow wheel, the lugs will be pulled down onto the sidewall for traction, etc. I'm excited to see this tire and test it.

badger · 10-08-2004, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by WannaBeDigler

I forgot to say that.....the new IMex clod Swamp Dog tire may be the best new tire....if they used their soft compound. The design, in my opinion, is the best for rc crawling. The size seems to be good. The sidewall looks to be about right. Mounted on a narrow wheel, the lugs will be pulled down onto the sidewall for traction, etc. I'm excited to see this tire and test it.

Anyone know when the new Imex Clod Swamp Dog are going to be out? My next set of tires was going to be Jumbo Max Swamp Dogs, but now that these are coming out there size is even better.

DirkDigler · 10-08-2004, 10:43 AM

I thought I heard something about a late Nov. release date.

MOTORRAD · 10-08-2004, 10:57 AM

The bigges limitation to my crawler is the TIME and money to make it run correctly!

Grizzly4x4 · 10-08-2004, 10:59 AM

I think steering seems to be the biggest issue but tires are also a huge limitation.
Traction is the only thing keeping The SuperDuke from world domination.

j/k

I am planning on trying those Clod tires as well, If the are made from the same rubber as the JumboMaxx Swamp Dawgs they may be all that and a bag of chips.

Grizzly4x4 · 10-08-2004, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by MOTORRAD

The bigges limitation to my crawler is the TIME and money to make it run correctly!

Time yes.... money? No.

badger · 10-08-2004, 11:03 AM

I think the biggest limitation is running a CLOD!

Seriously though, traction.

10-07-2004, 10:38 PM	#1
pipdango Newbie Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Portland, OR, USA Posts: 9	Biggest Limitation? What would you guys say is the biggest physical limitation of crawlers?

10-08-2004, 04:12 AM	#2
nktrnl Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: 808 Posts: 261	Re: Biggest Limitation? Tire sizes

10-08-2004, 06:26 AM	#3
CrawlinForLife Quarry Creeper Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 240	Re: Biggest Limitation? Gravity Seriously, always seems to be ground clearance.

10-08-2004, 07:27 AM	#5
CrawlinForLife Quarry Creeper Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 240	Re: Biggest Limitation? I took care of the speed problem, second gear is nice when you need a little more wheel speed to make something As for tire size, I don't see it as one, because too big of a tire can limit you as well, due to a higher cog.

10-08-2004, 07:36 AM	#6
Jam1sstang Quarry Creeper Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Grand Forks, ND Posts: 399	Re: Biggest Limitation? Yes, bigger tires do have there downside. But being able to clear larger rocks (IMO) is better than having a very low COG and not being able to clear anything.

10-08-2004, 07:51 AM	#7
Ace Rock Crawler Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Longmont, CO Posts: 901	Re: Biggest Limitation? In dirks case, the driver

10-08-2004, 08:04 AM	#8
Jam1sstang Quarry Creeper Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Grand Forks, ND Posts: 399	Re: Biggest Limitation? 8O A lot of drivers could be considered that.

10-08-2004, 08:47 AM	#9
DirkDigler I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 5,027	Re: Biggest Limitation? Damn Andy! I thought we were friends?!?! Now that I may be moving, I'm sure all you Colorado boys will start chiming in with your little funnies now huh? I don't think tire size is really that important. Most of the guys winning the comps are using smaller tires, like the Giant Tracs or Savage tires. I think the lack of tire traction is the killer. No company makes the perfect rubber compound for us crawlers. Nothing that really bites and sticks! When watching an rc crawler, you can see the rig's tires constantly breaking loose from where they are planted, which throws you off your line, kills your upward mobility and requires super low gearing to stay on track. I would love to see someone make a tire that is like gum!!! You wouldn't need to go over rocks with just clearance....you could pick a line and use the highest rocks for tire placement to get up and over obsticals....like you are supposed to.

10-08-2004, 09:44 AM	#10
CrawlinForLife Quarry Creeper Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 240	Re: Biggest Limitation? Yeah I agree to that. I think tire stick would help more then tire size. I am going to get a set of soft KRocks and treat the crap out of them with simple green to see what I can get them to do.

10-08-2004, 09:52 AM	#12
CrawlinForLife Quarry Creeper Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 240	Re: Biggest Limitation? I like the scale look to them though. What other tire would you go with then? Needs to go on Maxx wheels since I have beadlocks, and I don't want to have to hack the crap out of the tire. I play on rock, slick rock, dirt, and sand. And I am sure your going to say LST, but I don't know about those.

10-08-2004, 10:03 AM	#13
DirkDigler I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 5,027	Re: Biggest Limitation? Well, I thought we were talking about performance limitations here......so we should throw the whole scale, realism thing out the door. The best rubber compound that I've experienced is the soft Imex Jumbo Claw Dog. I just wish it was used on some of their other tire designs. It's really flexible and tacky. The Giant tracs also use the tackiest rubber out there. If the Giant trac was 7 inches tall and 3 inches wide, it might be the perfect tire. The LST is a good tire but suffers from skinny, soft lugs. The lugs are so pliable, they don't want to grab ledges and pull but they do stick to surfaces well, even with much void area on the tread.

10-08-2004, 10:05 AM	#14
DirkDigler I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 5,027	Re: Biggest Limitation? I forgot to say that.....the new IMex clod Swamp Dog tire may be the best new tire....if they used their soft compound. The design, in my opinion, is the best for rc crawling. The size seems to be good. The sidewall looks to be about right. Mounted on a narrow wheel, the lugs will be pulled down onto the sidewall for traction, etc. I'm excited to see this tire and test it.

10-08-2004, 10:43 AM	#16
DirkDigler I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 5,027	Re: Biggest Limitation? I thought I heard something about a late Nov. release date.

10-08-2004, 10:57 AM	#17
MOTORRAD Pebble Pounder Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 128	Re: Biggest Limitation? The bigges limitation to my crawler is the TIME and money to make it run correctly!

10-08-2004, 10:59 AM	#18
Grizzly4x4 PapaGriz Yo Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: In the garage building the wife a crawler Posts: 13,137	Re: Biggest Limitation? I think steering seems to be the biggest issue but tires are also a huge limitation. Traction is the only thing keeping The SuperDuke from world domination. j/k I am planning on trying those Clod tires as well, If the are made from the same rubber as the JumboMaxx Swamp Dawgs they may be all that and a bag of chips.

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10-08-2004, 11:03 AM	#20
badger Diggin' the new SCX10 II! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Norcal Posts: 11,402	Re: Biggest Limitation? I think the biggest limitation is running a CLOD! Seriously though, traction.

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