Traxxas Pede vs RC4WD R2

[2JSC]

speaking of Punisher shafts, how do you like them?

[gr33nlite]

x2.

Though, I've read on here the quality is, um... lacking? :-(

[2JSC]

Yeah - thats why I asked. I'd like to run them as my project might have a pretty long wheel base.

[gr33nlite]

Here's something I ran across a short time ago, referring to the punishers as something less than overwhelming...

http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showt...fts#post638174

[countryboy4life]

how did you get 40 series on wk axles. another question to anyone. will a pede tranny fit in a stock wk tranny pm me anyone if you've got a anwser for either question. please and thank you.

Originally Posted by kurt

ok the other video is still processing. this is an even older one. my first video of the truck. still had the jolt esc and was sitting on uber stiff springs. its not a great vid but you can see the pede take a little abuse.

http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=994016

and here is the second one. keep in mind the tires are moab xl's. they look smaller from far away.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0Ar6pW3CNQ

[2JSC]

Originally Posted by countryboy4life

how did you get 40 series on wk axles. another question to anyone. will a pede tranny fit in a stock wk tranny pm me anyone if you've got a anwser for either question. please and thank you.

Got the larger tires on with hex adapters for the wheel.

And you'll need a custom chassis to run a pede tranny.

[countryboy4life]

thanks alot man. were could i get some adaptors. thanks again.

Originally Posted by 2JSC

Got the larger tires on with hex adapters for the wheel.

And you'll need a custom chassis to run a pede tranny.

[Grizzly4x4]

Originally Posted by 2JSC

Ok - I'm making a parts list for a near future build and am having a hard time deciding on a tranny to use. This won't be a comp rig, just a trail beater. I'll be using some kind of brushless motor, Crawlmaster or something of the likes.

Anyway, I know the R2 is a pure crawling tranny, and gearing can't be changed. Is that the only advantage that the Pede has over it? Is the pede that much stronger? I don't want to be afraid to hammer the throttle though... and the R2 is pretty pricey compared to a $25 pede trans off eBay.

Whats your gearing set up and how do you like it?

I have both trannys and like both alot.

I like the pede in a trail rig, when I built Bumblebee for my daughter I put one in there. I like that it has a slipper for when she is bashing around. The durability of a pede is really good and replacement parts are cheap and easy to get.

For most of my bigger brushless motors I really like to run a 15 - 16 tooth pinion and an 87 tooth spur.

With a brushless setup you can destroy either tranny, the slipper clutch is what make the pede survive imo.

[2JSC]

Originally Posted by Grizzly4x4

I have both trannys and like both alot.

I like the pede in a trail rig, when I built Bumblebee for my daughter I put one in there. I like that it has a slipper for when she is bashing around. The durability of a pede is really good and replacement parts are cheap and easy to get.

For most of my bigger brushless motors I really like to run a 15 - 16 tooth pinion and an 87 tooth spur.

With a brushless setup you can destroy either tranny, the slipper clutch is what make the pede survive imo.

And thats the other thing, trying to decide on weather of not I should go brushless. If I go brushless, I'm looking at the Crawlmaster or a BM9. The only thing I'm worried about is if I get an R2 that I'll destroy it, and thats $80 down the hole for a replacment. I really like the idea of the slipper just incase I get in a bind and punch the throttle.

I'm thinking just go all out on the power side as a pede would be easier/cheaper to replace.

[Tanis]

The R2 gear ratio is adjustable from 10:1 to 30:1, by changing the pinion. I ran a pede for a year without ever having a problem. I have destroyed some R2's, but too much horsepower will do that to any tranny, although a slipper can help(it didn't help the 5 Emaxx tranny idler gears though) . I like the compact size of the R2, I had one in my scaler, but recently I picked up a couple more pede's, as I feel the R2 needs to be maintenanced/lubed often to keep it alive, and the pede doesn't. Also, it is nice to be able to run a smaller spur gear to get some wheelspeed, with the same size pinion, so the motor can work a little easier. With the R2, if you want more wheelspeed, you either gear up the pinion or add more cells.

[Tanis]

Replacement gears for the R2 are only $15.

[2JSC]

I think I'll go with the pede first because of cost, then maybe an R2 when a rebuild is in order.

[Tanis]

I'm sure the you'll be happy with the pede, I was until I wanted something smaller for the comp rig, I still like it for certain trucks, like snow/mud bashers.

[kurt]

Originally Posted by countryboy4life

thanks alot man. were could i get some adaptors. thanks again.

crawford perfomance engineering is where i got mine. I got the 1" extended 12-14mm adapters. Then i got the 14-17mm adapters that slide over the 14's.


http://www.crawfordperformanceengine...A6&log_pid=yes


edit:
just saw these and they look perfect to run axial beadlocks like mine
http://cgi.ebay.com/12mm-to-17mm-Ada...QQcmdZViewItem

[countryboy4life]

so which tranny you going wit. hey man thanks for the links.

[2JSC]

Me? I'm getting a pede.

[dezrik]

Pede ftw , Im building a chassis around it as we speak, of course its a crappy chassis out of steel

[MasterShake44]

Originally Posted by dezrik

Pede trans is quiet, R2 Tranny is loud!!! Ive ran both, R2 = all metal i broke shafts at first then i upgraded to Punisher shafts, then i was breaking Axel's. I moved to pede and never broke anything (i try to get my wheels out of a bind without touching it ) slipper helped alot!

You said the R2 is loud? Is it just because the guts are all hardened steel or is there design flaws? I was wanting to go with an R2 for my most recent build but now this thread has me second guessing my choice. I am using TLT axles. Do you have any experience with the TLT/R2 combo?

[2JSC]

My guess to it being loud is the metal gears and maybe not enough lube.

[iwantoffroad]

vote
pede tranny for the basher