Miclaw questions

[mathcanbefun]

Hey guys, just got my miclaws in the mail and I tried slapping them on my HR aluminum beadlock and the inner diameter looks ways to small. Does anyone know/ has been able to get the miclaws on the HR beadlocks?

[1tonscout]

I mounted miclaws to my Hot racing beadlocks with no problems

[chevy55]

They will fit, but they are a real PIA to get em done...If you have any little ones around, I would send them into the next room when you try You will be cuss'n up a storm good luck!

[mathcanbefun]

Thanks guys! Any tips on installation? And what did you guys do for foam? No foam? BB's? Or lead tape in the rim?
Thanks everyone!

[DANALLY]

I like to use the foams from a stock tire. It helps them keep shape. I also run at least 30-50 bbs. As for wrapping them on a rim...get one small section started and hold it in with one finger. Then get a small flat head screwdriver and slowly "help" the rest in aroun in a circle while adding more fingers to the areas that seat in the bead groove. It also helps if u suspend the rim up a little with a 1/2" drone socket that fits inside the tire. As u hold it up from the back side he front side is easier to push in. I hope that makes Sence.

[mathcanbefun]

Thanks man that does make sense! I got the tire on but it is sealed too tight and it won't hold shape. Did you guys vent the rims or tires at all?

[DANALLY]

I drill a hole in my rims for air. If you don't they actually hold some air and can suction cup action too. What wideners are you running?

[mathcanbefun]

Originally Posted by DANALLY

I drill a hole in my rims for air. If you don't they actually hold some air and can suction cup action too. What wideners are you running?

Is it hard to drill through? It seems like a lot of metal to go trough. What size drill bit did you use and how many holes did you drill into the rim?

I'm using the lavacapcrawling weight/widener kit! What kind of bb's, lead shot?

[DANALLY]

I just use regular bb's. As for the holes I can only speak for what I do on my new delrin rims. (I have never owned the aluminum rims you are using). I drill a 1/16 or so hole...just one hole is enough.

Im not positive but I think you might still rub on the links with those rims and wideners...again, not positive.

[mathcanbefun]

Originally Posted by DANALLY

I just use regular bb's. As for the holes I can only speak for what I do on my new delrin rims. (I have never owned the aluminum rims you are using). I drill a 1/16 or so hole...just one hole is enough.

Im not positive but I think you might still rub on the links with those rims and wideners...again, not positive.

Ah crap... Well I haven't tried yet so I will let you know then post it on the wheel/tire thread.
I have however had some success drilling a hole in the hr rims. But it's slow work.

What makes you think that ill rub on the links! Did you read it in a thread?

[kevinhayden]

Trust the man. They will rub. I was running BWD wideners with qlo's on rc4wd rims and it was still rubbing my front upper links at full turn. After that I added mcrc stock hexes to the BWD wideners and it just would clear..

[mathcanbefun]

Originally Posted by kevinhayden

Trust the man. They will rub. I was running BWD wideners with qlo's on rc4wd rims and it was still rubbing my front upper links at full turn. After that I added mcrc stock hexes to the BWD wideners and it just would clear..

You're right it seems to just be barely touching the links. The frustrating thing is that I've must have gotten 8 replies saying it would work. I have yet to actually run with the qlos and hr beadlocks but I might just have to switch over to some Mickey thompsons

[1tonscout]

Here's my redcat with miniqlo tires and hr beadlocks

[DANALLY]

That looks sweet. Only thing is that redcat axles are wider than losi. They can clear the big tires with less widener.

[mathcanbefun]

That does look awesome!
What do you guys think i should do? It really doesnt look like that much rub but if i can do something to eliminate it then i might as well. Any options? Redcat axels?

[mathcanbefun]

Originally Posted by chevy55

They will fit, but they are a real PIA to get em done...If you have any little ones around, I would send them into the next room when you try You will be cuss'n up a storm good luck!

Chevy,
Did you use the hr beadlocks with the miclaws? if so on what rig and how did you stop the rubbing?

[DANALLY]

Originally Posted by mathcanbefun

That does look awesome!
What do you guys think i should do? It really doesnt look like that much rub but if i can do something to eliminate it then i might as well. Any options? Redcat axels?

1) You can limit the steering on the radio so it doesn't rub. I don't do this cause I personally like to have full steering

2) Try to bend the links is a way to clear the tires yet not limit the articulation?

3) Run Redcat axles...not super easy as they are not a direct fit. They will also make the rig really fast as they don't have the gear reduction that the Losi axles have. It's a fun option tho

I think that Chevy55 runs mostly the Redcat axles. They are stronger and wider.

[mathcanbefun]

Originally Posted by DANALLY

1) You can limit the steering on the radio so it doesn't rub. I don't do this cause I personally like to have full steering

2) Try to bend the links is a way to clear the tires yet not limit the articulation?

3) Run Redcat axles...not super easy as they are not a direct fit. They will also make the rig really fast as they don't have the gear reduction that the Losi axles have. It's a fun option tho

I think that Chevy55 runs mostly the Redcat axles. They are stronger and wider.

Thanks danally you've been alot of help! I wouldn't mind having a little extra speed. Have you ever tried putting on sumo axels or do you know what mods I would have to do?

Oh and have you tried bending links? How did that go?

[DANALLY]

Originally Posted by mathcanbefun

Thanks danally you've been alot of help! I wouldn't mind having a little extra speed. Have you ever tried putting on sumo axels or do you know what mods I would have to do?

Oh and have you tried bending links? How did that go?

I would do a search for the rigs done with the Sumo axles. It's not as much a "MOD" as much as it is a major change. Everything is custom from the drive line lengthening, links, geometry, and then choice of motor, esc, and everything to make it all work together. It won't make it "a little" faster...it will be A LOT faster and not really even have crawler ability anymore. Don't get me wrong...it's a fun rig but totally different.

As for bending links, if it is the stock links I heat them at the point of bend with a lighter or butane torch. Once bent to the right angle quickly cool them with water and they stay bent. Just be careful to not effect the wheel travel. If you bend one wrong it will bind on the ball stud and make the rig stiff or not even cycle correctly.

[chevy55]

Originally Posted by mathcanbefun

Chevy,
Did you use the hr beadlocks with the miclaws? if so on what rig and how did you stop the rubbing?

I did but they went on a custom built rig, I didn't have any rubbing problems with the way the link setup was.

If the sumo axles are geared right you will still have crawlability & great wheel speed for when you need that extra bump

check out this thread & vid on page 2 post #37:
Micro Wraith Axles