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Old 09-07-2010, 03:01 PM   #1
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This is my first MOA and I have a quick question about single vs dual ESC. I am going with the HH ESC and HH handwound 45Ts and a punk dig switch. However, I did just order a new 4PKS and now am wondering if I should go with a dual ESC setup.

Is one set up better than the other or is it really just a matter of preference? Is it a waste to have the 4PKS and not go dual ESC?
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Is it a waste to have the 4PKS and not go dual ESC?
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Yes if your not going to run dual esc's it kind of a waste to buy the 4pks, Im looking to buy a 4pk though, right now im running a punk dig with the DX3s.
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Yes if your not going to run dual esc's it kind of a waste to buy the 4pks, Im looking to buy a 4pk though, right now im running a punk dig with the DX3s.
Alrighty, thanks. Looks like I will ditch the punk and pick up another HH ESC. I originally got the 4PKS for a Gmade R1 I am running with RWS and a dig unit. Might as well go all out on the XR10 as well...thanks again for the info.
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Make sure to check out the 4PK thread for a programming guide on using dual ESC's.
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Make sure to check out the 4PK thread for a programming guide on using dual ESC's.
Yep saved me....

I never realized what an advantage it is to mix ESC. I'm always flipping from
70% - 90% on my rear depending on what I'm crawling

For instance....In some cases I would have to dig up something and click all in to
make it.

With the 4PK you can sometimes drop it into 70% rear and easily crawl up the
same section without using dig...Its an advantage
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Make sure to check out the 4PK thread for a programming guide on using dual ESC's.
Will do, because I am sure I will have lots of questions.
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Yep saved me....

I never realized what an advantage it is to mix ESC. I'm always flipping from
70% - 90% on my rear depending on what I'm crawling

For instance....In some cases I would have to dig up something and click all in to
make it.

With the 4PK you can sometimes drop it into 70% rear and easily crawl up the
same section without using dig...Its an advantage
so with dual esc you can lower the percentage that a motor is turning? (not sure I am saying that right) As opposed to a dig switch which would just turn off the rear motor? Man, I hate sounding like such a newbie.
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so with dual esc you can lower the percentage that a motor is turning? (not sure I am saying that right) As opposed to a dig switch which would just turn off the rear motor? Man, I hate sounding like such a newbie.
I have video demonstrations you can take a look at

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I am new to the MOA setup as well. Could someone please tell me the advantage of running dual ESC's compared to single? is it just to reduce/eliminate "Clod Stall"? A few guys I know with Bergs are running single ESC with a punk and that setup seams to work pretty well for them. I haven't gotten any electronics for my XR10 yet (other than JR 3ch radio) but was thinking about going with a HH ESC, Punk dig and JPH 41T motors. THanks for any suggestions or information.
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I am new to the MOA setup as well. Could someone please tell me the advantage of running dual ESC's compared to single? is it just to reduce/eliminate "Clod Stall"? A few guys I know with Bergs are running single ESC with a punk and that setup seams to work pretty well for them. I haven't gotten any electronics for my XR10 yet (other than JR 3ch radio) but was thinking about going with a HH ESC, Punk dig and JPH 41T motors. THanks for any suggestions or information.
Click on that link that Harley Posted...Gobs of informations...Even Video
explaining what mixing can do.
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See the link above. There are video demos of how it works and why. It's way more than just eliminating clod stall, that has almost nothing to do with it really.

Dual esc's are a big advantage but you need to have a radio capable of mixing properly to take advantage of it.
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OK, i will check out the link. Thank you very much. The only thing i am concerned about if i run single ESC (cant afford a better radio at this time) is, how bad will the clod stall be? This might be a little exaggerated but, if im driving on flat ground in 4wd and go up against a virticle wall, will the front motor slow down drastically?
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Wow....those videos explain it much better than words...it looks like a freakin awesome setup. The wiring looks like a bitch though, hope I don't jack that up.

One question, is the info on the first page still the most up to date. Just wondering since the wiring diagram says its needs to be updated? Or do I need to search the thread for the most up to date info.
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Wow....those videos explain it much better than words...it looks like a freakin awesome setup. The wiring looks like a bitch though, hope I don't jack that up.

One question, is the info on the first page still the most up to date. Just wondering since the wiring diagram says its needs to be updated? Or do I need to search the thread for the most up to date info.
It is not any harder than wiring a Punk Dig into a single ESC rig. Just do yourself a favor and lay out all the components where they will go and measure how much wire you will need for each connection. And make sure to use wire connectors on the wires going to your motors so you can take the axles off if you need to.
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Wow....those videos explain it much better than words...it looks like a freakin awesome setup. The wiring looks like a bitch though, hope I don't jack that up.

One question, is the info on the first page still the most up to date. Just wondering since the wiring diagram says its needs to be updated? Or do I need to search the thread for the most up to date info.
I'll have new wiring diagrams done soon. I actually have a deadline on them
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Harley, Weres a good place to buy a 4pk from, best price and reliable service.
Im interested in getting one now that i seen your vid on setup for dual esc's, i was scared to buy one because i didnt know how i would set it up for mixing, but you just made it simple.



Any info is appreciated(pm me or something) idont wont to jack this thread, or send it offtopic.


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RPP usually has them in stock at a good price and it's hard to beat their service. Ultimatehobbies.com is usually cheapest but can sometimes be just a little more difficult to work with in my expierence.


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Harley, Weres a good place to buy a 4pk from, best price and reliable service.
Im interested in getting one now that i seen your vid on setup for dual esc's, i was scared to buy one because i didnt know how i would set it up for mixing, but you just made it simple.



Any info is appreciated(pm me or something) idont wont to jack this thread, or send it offtopic.


Thanks,
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