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Curcal

07-28-2015 07:39 AM

Re: 2015 RC Crawling Worlds- Las Vegas Sept 11, 12, 13th

Y'all want at 6 courses. (Me too) but by my count we need some where near 18 judges (thats just for 2.2pro) I've seen 5 outright volunteer (maybe 6 if i missed somthing subtle or back a few pages)

Now if I was JRH id be a little worried about how things are going to turn out and start looking at alternative ideas. (Like team judge format)

Like I said, we need to take more ownership for our hobby.

JohnRobHolmes

07-28-2015 08:11 AM

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I'm listening and certainly want to see the event be as badass as possible. I don't like being this close to the event and still needing to tie up judges, the few months leading up that I thought was going to be 100% devoted to organizing has been shanghaied by a client needing motors. Even so, you guys are stepping up big time to help get it sorted and tell me what you want. That is all I really need, some gentle help and suggestions.

Judging thread has been updated with my agreement that 2.2S and 2.2P should have dedicated, compensated judges. Right now I just have basic cash payment, Ill go in there and add some more ideas on getting judges well compensated.

JohnRobHolmes

07-28-2015 08:26 AM

Re: 2015 RC Crawling Worlds- Las Vegas Sept 11, 12, 13th

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Originally Posted by Erik D_lux (Post 5269083)

JRH, I really hope you dont take this personal. I know I dont like it when people cry about the way I do things and what seems like criticism. For this, I apologize as I am being hypocritical. I am sorry. I hope you can see it as I intend it.

I really hope the number of courses can be reconsidered?

2.2p is the bread and butter. The majority of us show up for this class. To short it just to cram in other classes that many/most do not care about does not make sense. I think you have to give us a great 2.2p class with lots of courses. If 2.2p does not go well and people dont have a good time with it, I would go so far to say that the whole hobby will die with it.

3 or 4 courses does not find a winner. You need more courses to find a better average. When you have that few of courses, it then all comes down to luck and course knowledge, many courses finds the true champion.

It takes the same time for 50 competitors to do 1 course as it would take 50 competitors to do 50 courses.
The only reason it would take longer to run the courses is if the competitors do not run them in a timely fashion. At BOTW, I set it up so you had to run courses in a certain order. It went great and we were able to do 8 courses even with a significant rain delay.

I will wake up and set up every course if it brings us more courses. I know many others are willing to take this sacrifice too. 4-5am is not too big of a deal to me, probably wont be able to sleep past 5 anyway.

I am lucky that I am close to this location. I sympathize for the guys that have a long way to travel and a lot more money that needs to be spent. I imagine some of these guys could be spending $2k on this trip? I then think, how much are they paying per course if you were just to show up for 2.2p. Wow! Thats $500 PER COURSE! $100 PER MINUTE! Thats crazy!

I really think its owed to everybody to pack in as much drive time as possible. There is no doubt I can make this happen even if its just me pulling all the weight and I am willing to do it.

Again, sorry for the rant and I hope you dont take it personal as that is not the intention. I, like you and everybody else, just want to have a fun filled comp.

Not taken personal at all. Lets see what we can come together and improve on this event. If yall say we can manage 5+ courses, then lets do it!

As long as judges and courses are handled well, I will be sure that we have a fast and efficient score keeping system to have scores available almost immediately when cards are turned in. We are planning to adapt our order processing system to work with a driver barcode so it can be scanned and quickly punched in without having to manage a spreadsheet in the typical method.

SkaldidDog

07-28-2015 08:38 AM

Re: 2015 RC Crawling Worlds- Las Vegas Sept 11, 12, 13th

If being a judge didn't come with an actual or perceived disadvantage we'd have plenty to choose from without paying them a cent. We're struggling with this endemic mindset today as we have for years. I will build a course and judge it all day at every "big" comp I attend. It's been that way for a while now. That's what it takes to maintain a level playing field and thus preserve the point of each event. I'll do so at Nats in the event I can make it there this year. Otherwise, I sincerely (and hypocritically) hope that each course is judged by the same, very small 2 maybe 3 person team of judges all day.

Competition without consistent standards (and at least 5 courses and a final) defeats the purpose of the event and belittles the accomplishments of top performers.

Thanks Erik.

J

Curcal

07-28-2015 10:17 AM

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A barcode system..... aw yeah. We goin high tech!

JohnRobHolmes

07-30-2015 07:39 AM

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Exact location updated in first post and on RC orva

36°35'36.5"N 114°31'36.0"W

http://goo.gl/maps/ctiYR

Crawllife

07-30-2015 10:51 AM

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http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07...94ed44f014.jpg
Looks like a happening place!! Ha! It's just fun to open up google maps in the desert.

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fshnut007

07-30-2015 11:02 AM

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I opened it in google maps and it gave me satellite view.

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Crawllife

07-30-2015 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by fshnut007 (Post 5271091)

I opened it in google maps and it gave me satellite view.

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On your phone?

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fshnut007

07-30-2015 11:09 AM

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Yes

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fshnut007

07-30-2015 11:09 AM

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http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07...dc40824cc8.jpg

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Crawllife

07-30-2015 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by fshnut007 (Post 5271094)

Yes

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Crap. Does it show what road that is to? If so, please post the pic. Thanks!!

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Crawllife

07-30-2015 11:11 AM

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Thank you.

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fshnut007

07-30-2015 11:15 AM

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It's a trail that it's on, so here's the closest road to get to it, you have to cut off from Pioneer Rd. It's complicated to describe how to get there, google the road in Logadale, nv.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07...f9da20ec29.jpg

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fshnut007

07-30-2015 11:19 AM

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If your still having trouble let me know I'll post up detail exactly how to get there.

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Crawllife

07-30-2015 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by fshnut007 (Post 5271104)

If your still having trouble let me know I'll post up detail exactly how to get there.

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I will just follow someone from the hotel on day one. If I'm out early the way I'd like to be, any help will be appreciated!

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un-bolt

07-30-2015 11:34 AM

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We will have a sightseeing on thursday??

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Crawllife

07-30-2015 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by un-bolt (Post 5271120)

We will have a sightseeing on thursday??

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I'm hoping to be driving on Thursday. Work will decide.

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winnerone23

07-30-2015 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Crawllife (Post 5271106)

If I'm out early the way I'd like to be...

Out early at the end of the day?

Or do you mean in the morning? Can you define "early" for us!? ;). Lol..

Crawllife

07-30-2015 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by winnerone23 (Post 5271126)

Out early at the end of the day?

Or do you mean in the morning? Can you define "early" for us!? ;). Lol..

Tool! In Vegas early! Now message JH and tell him to be extra gentle with my motor. Lol. I want it back so bad.

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winnerone23

07-30-2015 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Crawllife (Post 5271130)

Tool! In Vegas early! Now message JH and tell him to be extra gentle with my motor. Lol. I want it back so bad.

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Lol.. So you'll get there around noon-1pm..

I think JRH just got there message.. ;)

Crawllife

07-30-2015 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by winnerone23 (Post 5271132)

Lol.. So you'll get there around noon-1pm..

I think JRH just got there message.. ;)

I'm hoping Wednesday night. We will see. I want to get a few hours out before it counts.

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BC-Brian

07-30-2015 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnRobHolmes (Post 5267628)

Tentative Schedule, may be subject to change:

Friday-
7am: Course building begins
8am: Driver Check in
9am: 2.2S courses open
10am: TrailMaster Challenge open
5pm: Courses close, finals 2.2S course building begins
6pm: Finals 2.2S
7pm: Awards Ceremony

Saturday-
7am: Course building begins
8am: Driver Check in
9am: 2.2P and Unlimited standard courses open
5pm: Courses close, finals 2.2P and Unlimited course building begins
6pm: Finals begins
7pm: Awards Ceremony
8pm: Night TrailMaster Challenge begins

Sunday-
7am: Course building begins
8am: Driver Check in
9am: Super, 1.9, and Unlimited Mini courses open
5pm: Courses close, finals course building begins if applicable
6pm: Finals if applicable
7pm: Awards Ceremony, with overall winner announcements

Someone with editing permission, can we move this to the first post, or near it. "thumbsup"

Crawllife

08-10-2015 05:39 PM

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Huge thanks to oval man and winner for offering Liz and I the 3rd bedroom in their rental home 5 min from the comp spot. That way I don't have to worry about breaking the " cool kid" theme at the hotel. Lol

Crawllife

08-11-2015 09:33 AM

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I'm working with a sponsor on a painful 1.9 project. My flight isn't until 3pm on Sunday. If we get this front axle right and the truck will run, will we be able to buy into classes there? I'm just curious if I should push to get it done or not.

Krawler Kev

08-11-2015 10:02 AM

Re: 2015 RC Crawling Worlds- Las Vegas Sept 11, 12, 13th

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Originally Posted by Crawllife (Post 5277781)

Just get the damn thing done.:roll:

Crawllife

08-11-2015 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Krawler Kev (Post 5277792)

Just get the damn thing done.:roll:

This little thing is second small thing in my life to piss me off at this level. Haha!! We are working on it bro. Look forward to seeing ya Kev. Just booked flights this morning. I'll have all day Thursday and don't have to leave until later on Sunday. More time than last year!

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ClassiCutCustoms

08-11-2015 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Crawllife (Post 5277795)

This little thing is second small thing in my life to piss me off at this level. Did I just say that??? Lol

Overshare!!!!

Crawllife

08-11-2015 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ClassiCutCustoms (Post 5277798)

Overshare!!!!

Trying have some fun. The Belgium rig turned out sweet right? Hope he drives it well!

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ClassiCutCustoms

08-11-2015 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Crawllife (Post 5277802)

Trying have some fun. The Belgium rig turned out sweet right? Hope he drives it well!

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Me too!!

Crawllife

08-11-2015 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ClassiCutCustoms (Post 5277831)

Me too!!

He seems into it and pretty committed. Id be willing to bet he'll do well

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Curcal

08-12-2015 09:21 AM

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Booking flight very soon! Will there be anyone rolling through Vegas around 9:00pm on Fri Sept 11th that wants to ride share upto Logandale?

Del Montess

08-12-2015 09:58 AM

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Curcal I'll likely be coming through Vegas around that time and might be able to pick you up (I'm driving out after work Friday). I won't chauffeur you around the rest of the weekend though. "thumbsup" :flipoff:

I'm looking forward to seeing everyone!

Curcal

08-12-2015 01:51 PM

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Thanks Jess.
The BYB will be there so im not too worried, but i was wondering if i could save them the trip.
I'll let you know.

JRock

08-13-2015 12:02 AM

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Well tickets for classes paid for and hotel booked"thumbsup" Coming on thursday and can't wait to run at nats for the second time lol it's been since 2009 the last time I went to nats lol

See everyone on the rocks soon.

ZZR 1100 Racer

08-14-2015 11:56 PM

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Hey guys - i was not shure If i could handle to come over, but now it's fixed - i will representate germany and give my best(paid into the cash pool) to have fun with the guys i know from last worlds and the new one i will meet there!! I know that area from my last USA trip and that kind of rocks are still awsome!

Like Yocci from japan said...the most importend thing we are looking for is to have fun with the people who think same. Also absolut agree with dlux about setting more than 4 pro courses - 5 will be good, 6 for my thinking good to get the best driver, and 7 or 8 will be the max level and fun. I'm coming over 5682,01 miles to have fun with you guys and i'm also going conform with Dlux who said it's possible to drive more courses if there is no break between each driver...next, next, next...

I' m so happy to get this fun second time and now i can't wait...

CY and Cheers!

Del Montess

08-15-2015 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ZZR 1100 Racer (Post 5279879)

Fantastic!!!! Can't wait to see you!!

Del Montess

08-15-2015 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Curcal (Post 5278535)

Thanks Jess.
The BYB will be there so im not too worried, but i was wondering if i could save them the trip.
I'll let you know.

Ok, I'll be through there so it won't be an inconvenience for me. The only issue is that idk what time for sure, since I'll be getting off work at 5, then heading out, could be 3-4 hours to get to Vegas depending on traffic.
Either way I'm happy, so just let me know "thumbsup"

winnerone23

08-16-2015 07:50 AM

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Flight paid for, house rented, rental car secured, and Stoked to come play with toy trucks with all the Awesome ppl!!!

Now just to figure out how many trucks I can fit in my carry on and what class tickets to buy!?

Anyone flying in around 9a.m. on Thursday? To ride into the comp spot with?

JohnRobHolmes

08-24-2015 02:36 PM

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Last day to get tix with free driver bag of goodies! If you know anyone who hasn't registered yet, today is the day to do it!

Less than three weeks! Who else is getting excited?

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