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docfire · 02-26-2009, 07:02 PM

Starting a new build this month with my new V2 RC4WD Bully axels. I will need some help from the great people here on RCCRAWLER.COM.

To start thing off, here are some photos of the Bullies, VP wheels W\460 offset, and HR Rovers (stock HR foam).

10" outside to outside of tire

Things I have:

Bully axel (derrrr) With steer kit
VP rims offset of 460 with 585 coming in the mail
HR Rovers
Castle Mamba Max
Castle BEC
DX3R
3S lipo's

Things I need: This is where I need your help. Let me know what I should get for the items below (Please have a good reason why I should get it, and not just because it looks good.). I will use the parts and post photos and any build issues/problems. If any venders would like to have their parts showcased, I can do that to. When this crawler is done I can post any measurement, weights, and test Videos. In addition if you live in the Sacramento, CA area I will let you drive it. I have been known to frequent Capital City RC http://www.capitalrc.com/ and Folsom Lake rocks.

Chassis
Links
Link ends
Shocks
Servos
Motors
Body
Tire Foam
Skid protection
Etc.

So Let's get this thing built.

Dr. Thunder · 02-26-2009, 07:07 PM

I'd like to see a Bully torsion build!

clarkrw3 · 02-26-2009, 07:18 PM

I would like to see a Fubar bully...but is this the bully forum??

docfire · 02-26-2009, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clarkrw3

I would like to see a Fubar bully...but is this the bully forum??

Not sure if there is a Bully fourm???? It would be nice.

docfire · 02-26-2009, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Thunder

I'd like to see a Bully torsion build!

I with you on this. Not to sure on a Cane style but some of the others might be good. Let get some feedback on what other think.

Xtant3150c · 02-26-2009, 07:38 PM

Nice looking axle's

The Rig in the pics on the Bully page on RC4WD's site is a kewl build (not sure who's it is?) Using a "Stick" style setup.

I'm sure this will be moved to the General Crawler section where all the other Bully Builds are.

And I am bummed that I missed out on these axles again! Hopefully they will be back in stock sooner rather then later?

Culetto · 02-26-2009, 08:01 PM

On my bullies i have tried:

Kamikaze 4.0
DNA Mantis
Full torsion Backbone style
Stick backbone style
Blackjack in full droop
Bastard Jr
JP Customs Havok (prototype)

In all honesty the Havok is my favorite. You will find on the Bully axles that link setup can be a challenge. The size of the gearboxes on the axles makes some chassis options more challenge than they are worth. The Kamikaze, for example, i had to run a wider skid to spread the plates apart so the shocks wouldnt hit the gearboxes, its still a good chassis but its alot of additional trial and error. On the Mantis i had to make bent upper links to get the gearboxes to clear the front axle, not a major issue but its something that you will need to look at when building your rig. Another issue is the extreme steering axle the bullys allow. They will hit the shocks on some of the shorter chassis, not just a little rubbing but a lot. With the JP chassis having torsion on the front and the 4 link on both ends it avoids these issues. Im sure the Kamikaze ST version will be similar in this instance but i have had both and I like the JP more. The skid is pre-drilled and tapped and the edges are beveled on the skid and the chassis plates. I use the Kamikaze lower links on my comp rig though, the design is very nice for the bully axles in clearing the gearboxes.

rc-guy · 02-26-2009, 08:03 PM

there should be a M.O.A forum because the berg people don't what bully there. and some don't want it here and the rc4wd forum should be for there products only so please lets make a M.O.A section and do away with berg only area.
i also am a bully guy and just started to build mine . but i wont steal this post

got to love them bullies

xirtic · 02-26-2009, 08:07 PM

The KK Zero-T Chassis is nice. I am running it on my Bully's....I am liking it.

docfire · 02-26-2009, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Culetto

On my bullies i have tried:

Kamikaze 4.0
DNA Mantis
Full torsion Backbone style
Stick backbone style
Blackjack in full droop
Bastard Jr
JP Customs Havok (prototype)

In all honesty the Havok is my favorite. You will find on the Bully axles that link setup can be a challenge. The size of the gearboxes on the axles makes some chassis options more challenge than they are worth. The Kamikaze, for example, i had to run a wider skid to spread the plates apart so the shocks wouldnt hit the gearboxes, its still a good chassis but its alot of additional trial and error. On the Mantis i had to make bent upper links to get the gearboxes to clear the front axle, not a major issue but its something that you will need to look at when building your rig. Another issue is the extreme steering axle the bullys allow. They will hit the shocks on some of the shorter chassis, not just a little rubbing but a lot. With the JP chassis having torsion on the front and the 4 link on both ends it avoids these issues. Im sure the Kamikaze ST version will be similar in this instance but i have had both and I like the JP more. The skid is pre-drilled and tapped and the edges are beveled on the skid and the chassis plates. I use the Kamikaze lower links on my comp rig though, the design is very nice for the bully axles in clearing the gearboxes.

I have noticed the isue with the steering and shock mount locations. I currently have a zero 3.5 on my berg and i love it. but the intial fit a finish was weak. That ok because i like to tinker. The HaVoc Chassis look like the way to go, but i'm still thinking.

clarkrw3 · 02-26-2009, 09:05 PM

how about a mantis dna?

docfire · 02-26-2009, 09:37 PM

Should i wait for this?????

jeeper_05 · 02-26-2009, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xtant3150c

Nice looking axle's

The Rig in the pics on the Bully page on RC4WD's site is a kewl build (not sure who's it is?) Using a "Stick" style setup.

I'm sure this will be moved to the General Crawler section where all the other Bully Builds are.

And I am bummed that I missed out on these axles again! Hopefully they will be back in stock sooner rather then later?

Thanks for the compliments man, the bully stick is my creation, and the thread is here --Another RC4WD Bully Build--, once the chubby is made, I will be switching over to test it

Culetto · 02-26-2009, 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by docfire

I have noticed the isue with the steering and shock mount locations. I currently have a zero 3.5 on my berg and i love it. but the intial fit a finish was weak. That ok because i like to tinker. The HaVoc Chassis look like the way to go, but i'm still thinking.

You wont be disapointed in the havok. I threw mine together the week before our last comp, hadent driven it up anything more than a curb when i lined up at the first gate and pulled the only negative score of all the entrants on all 3 courses in 2.2. and ended in third. Its also the cheapest of the bunch with far superior fit and finish.

Xtant3150c · 02-27-2009, 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeeper_05

Thanks for the compliments man, the bully stick is my creation, and the thread is here --Another RC4WD Bully Build--, once the chubby is made, I will be switching over to test it

Mahalo for linking to your thread

I knew I saw it before just could'nt remember and was to lazy to search

run2jeepn · 02-27-2009, 12:58 AM

Thanks Culetto... The Chassis you have is the Prototype too. Which you knew already. The Finish on the Production HaVoc will be even better. I made a few small changes. Which will allow 3 different skids tp mount up. 2in wide, 2.75in Wide and a Stock Ax-10 skid. Or any after market Ax-10 skid as well. I designed the HaVoc based off the Bullys. I knew if I could get it to clear the Bullys it would have no problems with clearing issues on the Bergs.

My Machinist is trying to talk me into making them in White Delrin as well. Which will make them even cheaper too.

Culetto · 02-27-2009, 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by run2jeepn

My Machinist is trying to talk me into making them in White Delrin as well. Which will make them even cheaper too.

Oooh. White would be cool. I could actually go for a color scheme now. LOL

53 willys · 02-27-2009, 07:20 AM

as mentioned the real chalange is links...

I had a reign widemouth on my bully build....I just bought a fubar skeeter chassis because the reign widemouth's lower links are NOT bully axle friendly!!
the lower link were hitting the lower frame rails..

If I was gonna wait for a chassis for a bully build it would be Harley's "ARC"

or maybe the Chubby chassis.....my first choice would be the "ARC"!! I have been drooling over that chassis!!
the fubar skeeter looks to be set-up perfect for BIG gear boxed MOA axles...it a nice little chassis.

docfire · 02-27-2009, 07:52 PM

The HaVoc chassis has been ordered, with two of their skids, one 2x2 and one 2x2.75. This is per Culetto advice THANKS. See you make the request, and I make the order.

Now what links lower and upper? I have some Zeros (on a berg) and the stock berg bent in the tool box. Or should I make my own?

Also what motors???? 45T, 35T and what make, Holmes, JP, Integy. How about the tooth gear for front and rear, mix frn 12T and rear 13T.

Lets talk bodies.......Best for role over recovery, style, and quality.

Any venders looking lets see what your stuff can do. I'm looking for a FREE handout but if you want free is good.

docfire · 02-28-2009, 10:57 AM

Let’s get some input?????? This should have been left in the Berg pages. I would have gotten more input there, BUT thanks to those few that have helped.

02-26-2009, 07:02 PM	#1
docfire Pebble Pounder Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: jackson, CA Posts: 160	DOCFIRE Bully axel build (Venders LOOK) Starting a new build this month with my new V2 RC4WD Bully axels. I will need some help from the great people here on RCCRAWLER.COM. To start thing off, here are some photos of the Bullies, VP wheels W\460 offset, and HR Rovers (stock HR foam). 10" outside to outside of tire Things I have: Bully axel (derrrr) With steer kit VP rims offset of 460 with 585 coming in the mail HR Rovers Castle Mamba Max Castle BEC DX3R 3S lipo's Things I need: This is where I need your help. Let me know what I should get for the items below (Please have a good reason why I should get it, and not just because it looks good.). I will use the parts and post photos and any build issues/problems. If any venders would like to have their parts showcased, I can do that to. When this crawler is done I can post any measurement, weights, and test Videos. In addition if you live in the Sacramento, CA area I will let you drive it. I have been known to frequent Capital City RC http://www.capitalrc.com/ and Folsom Lake rocks. Chassis Links Link ends Shocks Servos Motors Body Tire Foam Skid protection Etc. So Let's get this thing built. Last edited by docfire; 02-27-2009 at 07:54 PM.

02-26-2009, 08:01 PM	#7
Culetto RCC Addict Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sin City Posts: 1,332	On my bullies i have tried: Kamikaze 4.0 DNA Mantis Full torsion Backbone style Stick backbone style Blackjack in full droop Bastard Jr JP Customs Havok (prototype) In all honesty the Havok is my favorite. You will find on the Bully axles that link setup can be a challenge. The size of the gearboxes on the axles makes some chassis options more challenge than they are worth. The Kamikaze, for example, i had to run a wider skid to spread the plates apart so the shocks wouldnt hit the gearboxes, its still a good chassis but its alot of additional trial and error. On the Mantis i had to make bent upper links to get the gearboxes to clear the front axle, not a major issue but its something that you will need to look at when building your rig. Another issue is the extreme steering axle the bullys allow. They will hit the shocks on some of the shorter chassis, not just a little rubbing but a lot. With the JP chassis having torsion on the front and the 4 link on both ends it avoids these issues. Im sure the Kamikaze ST version will be similar in this instance but i have had both and I like the JP more. The skid is pre-drilled and tapped and the edges are beveled on the skid and the chassis plates. I use the Kamikaze lower links on my comp rig though, the design is very nice for the bully axles in clearing the gearboxes. Last edited by Culetto; 02-26-2009 at 08:04 PM.

02-27-2009, 07:52 PM	#19
docfire Pebble Pounder Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: jackson, CA Posts: 160	Chassis ordered The HaVoc chassis has been ordered, with two of their skids, one 2x2 and one 2x2.75. This is per Culetto advice THANKS. See you make the request, and I make the order. Now what links lower and upper? I have some Zeros (on a berg) and the stock berg bent in the tool box. Or should I make my own? Also what motors???? 45T, 35T and what make, Holmes, JP, Integy. How about the tooth gear for front and rear, mix frn 12T and rear 13T. Lets talk bodies.......Best for role over recovery, style, and quality. Any venders looking lets see what your stuff can do. I'm looking for a FREE handout but if you want free is good. Last edited by docfire; 02-27-2009 at 09:25 PM.

02-26-2009, 07:07 PM	#2
Dr. Thunder Quarry Creeper Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Nashville Posts: 273	I'd like to see a Bully torsion build!

02-26-2009, 07:18 PM	#3
clarkrw3 RCC Addict Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 1,262	I would like to see a Fubar bully...but is this the bully forum??

02-26-2009, 07:38 PM	#6
Xtant3150c RCC Addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: On Da' Shelf Posts: 1,253	Nice looking axle's The Rig in the pics on the Bully page on RC4WD's site is a kewl build (not sure who's it is?) Using a "Stick" style setup. I'm sure this will be moved to the General Crawler section where all the other Bully Builds are. And I am bummed that I missed out on these axles again! Hopefully they will be back in stock sooner rather then later?

02-26-2009, 08:03 PM	#8
rc-guy Rock Stacker Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: ontario, canada Posts: 56	there should be a M.O.A forum because the berg people don't what bully there. and some don't want it here and the rc4wd forum should be for there products only so please lets make a M.O.A section and do away with berg only area. i also am a bully guy and just started to build mine . but i wont steal this post got to love them bullies

02-26-2009, 08:07 PM	#9
xirtic RCC Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mount Juliet Posts: 1,287	The KK Zero-T Chassis is nice. I am running it on my Bully's....I am liking it.

02-26-2009, 09:05 PM	#11
clarkrw3 RCC Addict Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 1,262	how about a mantis dna?

02-26-2009, 09:37 PM	#12
docfire Pebble Pounder Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: jackson, CA Posts: 160	Should i wait for this?????

02-27-2009, 12:58 AM	#16
run2jeepn I wanna be Dave Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: USA Posts: 11,196	Thanks Culetto... The Chassis you have is the Prototype too. Which you knew already. The Finish on the Production HaVoc will be even better. I made a few small changes. Which will allow 3 different skids tp mount up. 2in wide, 2.75in Wide and a Stock Ax-10 skid. Or any after market Ax-10 skid as well. I designed the HaVoc based off the Bullys. I knew if I could get it to clear the Bullys it would have no problems with clearing issues on the Bergs. My Machinist is trying to talk me into making them in White Delrin as well. Which will make them even cheaper too.

02-27-2009, 07:20 AM	#18
53 willys I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: laying low Posts: 2,508	as mentioned the real chalange is links... I had a reign widemouth on my bully build....I just bought a fubar skeeter chassis because the reign widemouth's lower links are NOT bully axle friendly!! the lower link were hitting the lower frame rails.. If I was gonna wait for a chassis for a bully build it would be Harley's "ARC" or maybe the Chubby chassis.....my first choice would be the "ARC"!! I have been drooling over that chassis!! the fubar skeeter looks to be set-up perfect for BIG gear boxed MOA axles...it a nice little chassis.

02-28-2009, 10:57 AM	#20
docfire Pebble Pounder Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: jackson, CA Posts: 160	Let’s get some input?????? This should have been left in the Berg pages. I would have gotten more input there, BUT thanks to those few that have helped.

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