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10-26-2009, 07:11 AM | #1 |
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| New RC4WD Bully Articulation Problems
Hi Guys, my bully arrived and i noticed i had some play in the steering knuckles which i fixed by adding some shims. Than i removed the shocks to check that everything is built well. After i checked the limit of the articulation ( twist ) and wasn't impressed at all especially next to the enroute that i built for a friend of mine, i also noticed that something is "like" binding in the buckles. If i twisted the rear and front i can't even reach 90 degrees. Tried positioning the buckles in different positions but to no avail PLEASE HELP |
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10-26-2009, 07:25 AM | #2 |
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10-26-2009, 07:33 AM | #3 |
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What do you mean by "buckles"?? So, after you removed the shocks, was the articulation limited at all? If not, then it sounds like you need new shocks. Also, if we are talking about the Bully ARTR kit, then comparing it to a pieced together berg is not a fair compairson. ARTRs and RTRs are never the top of the line RCs... |
10-26-2009, 07:34 AM | #4 |
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why its shouldn't ? The berg goes almost to 180 degrees with ease, so i thought it had an issue. Is it normal? |
10-26-2009, 07:48 AM | #5 | |
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why isn't a fair competition, isn't the bully a comp crawler like the berg is. Are you saying the Berg is better ?? I know the bully is an RTR but its just a Pro kit wich was preassambled. Doesn't mean it a low budget crawler. Hope i didn't buy the wrong product as i thought the bully is a better kit than the Berg :( | |
10-26-2009, 07:56 AM | #6 | |
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The Bully is a great starting point! I run the axles in my comp rig and they have performed very well. I know it isnt low budget, but it is difficult to compare a factory build crawler with one that is pieced together with all of the best parts. BTW, in my opinion, the bully axles make for a MUCH better crawler than the bergs... | |
10-26-2009, 07:57 AM | #7 |
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10-26-2009, 08:06 AM | #8 |
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You might be interested in this thread, which talks some about rigs with too much articulation. It sounds like about a soda can of articulation is the sweet spot for most rigs. articulation |
10-26-2009, 08:13 AM | #9 |
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Thanks guys, didn't know that, thought it was an issue. So if i need to get the Bully a better crawler what will i need, new chassis? Thanks |
10-26-2009, 08:28 AM | #10 |
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I have been running the Bully rtr kit for awhile now, and doing fairly good with it. |
10-27-2009, 08:14 AM | #11 |
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Try getting it on the rocks and check it out. See how it feels and then make changes if needed. The main thing is to run the truck first. Get a feel for its handling.
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10-27-2009, 05:33 PM | #12 |
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Speed6, I bought the ARTR when it first came out (v1 axles) and I'm glad I did. The main two reasons are: It gave me a starting point so that I could gradually change out parts as it suited my driving style (or lack of style ). Just the axles, servo mount, and wheels would have cost more than I paid for the ARTR. Of course the price dropped with the v2 axles, but just add in the chassis and you are ahead. I have since changed just about everything except for the axles, servo mount, and wheels. A lot of this was personal preference and not because the parts were not good. However, when I first got the crawler, I did have issues with the shocks which I found pretty stiff. Also, some of the rod ends wouldn't rotate smoothly, but that was easily fixed with some after market ends. I eventually changed out the chassis, but my advice would be to try the different shock mounting positions. With Losi shocks, I ran them in the third hole in on the front and second on the rear. Also, I have found that RC4WD is great to work with and they really stand behind their products. |
10-30-2009, 03:58 PM | #13 |
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I had that tight binding feeling, but replaced the shocks with Losi's and played about with link placement. Got it sorted now and loving it! Here's my Bully thread... UK Bully build. |
10-31-2009, 09:30 AM | #14 |
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Thanks guys, what aftermarket chassis do you recommend?
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10-31-2009, 06:36 PM | #15 |
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10-31-2009, 07:20 PM | #16 |
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| If you have 180* of articulation, your front axle would be completely upside down while your rear tires would still be on the ground, 90* would mean your front tire would be on it's side(front axle pointing straight up in the air, while your rear tires would still be on the ground ;) 45*-70* is a good area to shoot for, or the height of a tire you are running or a little more.
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11-01-2009, 07:55 AM | #17 | |
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| Quote: What shocks size do i need for this chassis? Also do i need additional parts? Thanks | |
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