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84yoda 05-21-2017 03:54 PM

Re: Cloudswimmer's Bully II Build
 
Ya definitely go with the dravtech shocks. Its always good to get a stock baseline of performance first then upgrade.

cloudswimmer 05-21-2017 04:48 PM

Re: Cloudswimmer's Bully II Build
 
Waiting for my BEC from tapped out, so in the mean time am thinking what to do with these lexan body panels. Has anybody ever worked with this Tamiya iridescent lexan paint? Ever seen any rigs painted with it? This ones suppose to be purple green and 'sounds' interesting, may be too blingy I don't know. I currently have cans of red and black thats it. Maybe red to go with my 1:1 I posted in the 1:1 forum the other day, but iridescent purple/green ......hmmmm

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4199/...a15955_o_d.jpg

Evo93 05-21-2017 04:48 PM

Re: Cloudswimmer's Bully II Build
 
Stock cannot be oil filled! They do not work that way. Oil is for lube only. You may be able to use grease instead to slow them down. I never tried. Just bought big bores. Dravtech is a big bore copy. Cheaper. And nice looking.

Evo93 05-21-2017 04:51 PM

Re: Cloudswimmer's Bully II Build
 
My paint failed to stick but other guys run clear so you can see the links. Plus they dont last very long lol.

cloudswimmer 05-21-2017 05:25 PM

Re: Cloudswimmer's Bully II Build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Evo93 (Post 5709970)
My paint failed to stick but other guys run clear so you can see the links. Plus they dont last very long lol.

Did you clean your lexan thoroughly before painting? I wash my bodies with dish detergent, then right before the first coat wipe the interior with rubbing alcohol. Are you lightly spattering on many light light coats? How bout ambient temps when you sprayed .. was it cold? I've never had a problem with Pactra or Tamiya paint sticking to lexan. Here's my last rig using those procedures and if I take my fingernail and scratch it the paint doesn't budge (has a black backing coat too)

http://www.pbase.com/cloudswimmer/image/158047900.jpg

mikemcE 05-21-2017 05:31 PM

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I was thinking the body panels have a clear protector peel off layer, on BOTH sides


Hang up and Drive

EeePee 05-21-2017 06:11 PM

Re: Cloudswimmer's Bully II Build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Evo93 (Post 5709968)
Stock cannot be oil filled!

Tell RC4WD they're wrong.

"Shock Absorbers
Internal Spring 90mm Shocks _ Can Be Oil Filled"

RC4WD Bully II MOA Competition Crawler Kit

Are they emulsion shocks?

cloudswimmer 05-21-2017 06:21 PM

Re: Cloudswimmer's Bully II Build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EeePee (Post 5709997)
Tell RC4WD they're wrong.

"Shock Absorbers
Internal Spring 90mm Shocks _ Can Be Oil Filled"

RC4WD Bully II MOA Competition Crawler Kit

Are they emulsion shocks?

By golly your right! Its right there, so I guess I'll try it without first then maybe fill em up half way, whats the worse that can happen right?:roll:

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4178/...8e0864_z_d.jpg

EeePee 05-21-2017 06:35 PM

Re: Cloudswimmer's Bully II Build
 
If they're emulsion shocks, meaning no bladder, then fill them about 7/8th the way full. Before you drive, pump them up to get the emulsion foam action going. If you feel a dead spot, they need a few more drops of oil.

cloudswimmer 05-21-2017 06:48 PM

Re: Cloudswimmer's Bully II Build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EeePee (Post 5710005)
If they're emulsion shocks, meaning no bladder, then fill them about 7/8th the way full. Before you drive, pump them up to get the emulsion foam action going. If you feel a dead spot, they need a few more drops of oil.

Roger that E"thumbsup" Hey on those Dravtech's .. they are listed as being 2.5mm longer than stock, so I assume thats a small enough difference to not have to relocate upper shock mounts on a stock Bully II RTR?

EeePee 05-21-2017 07:12 PM

Re: Cloudswimmer's Bully II Build
 
If you can, put them in a higher up hole. The thing is too tall anyways.

84yoda 05-21-2017 07:17 PM

Re: Cloudswimmer's Bully II Build
 
You can only fill them half way. Use some thick oil, might help but at the end of the day, there still garbage.

cloudswimmer 05-21-2017 07:44 PM

Re: Cloudswimmer's Bully II Build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EeePee (Post 5710020)
If you can, put them in a higher up hole. The thing is too tall anyways.

Yep makes sense looking at it, but lowering is no good for mall crawling lol ;)

Evo93 05-21-2017 07:46 PM

Re: Cloudswimmer's Bully II Build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EeePee (Post 5709997)
Tell RC4WD they're wrong.

"Shock Absorbers
Internal Spring 90mm Shocks _ Can Be Oil Filled"

RC4WD Bully II MOA Competition Crawler Kit

Are they emulsion shocks?

I'm telling you you're wrong and rc4wd doesn't list everything properly. Actually. The more fluid the less the shock will travel. They hydro lock.
And if you still dont believe me check this out.


http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/...pstpfomyji.png

The short time I ran them I did notice when you let them sit they do seem to get really stiff but I also didnt really ever break them in. My big bores are smooth as butter.

As for dravtechs shocks them being longer just use a different mounting hole. And I would try to put them upside down. My big bores are longer too.

cloudswimmer 05-21-2017 07:58 PM

Re: Cloudswimmer's Bully II Build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Evo93 (Post 5710039)

As for dravtechs shocks them being longer just use a different mounting hole. And I would try to put them upside down. My big bores are longer too.

Whats the advantage of running them upside down?

Zarizi Tech 05-21-2017 08:18 PM

Re: Cloudswimmer's Bully II Build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cloudswimmer (Post 5710044)
Whats the advantage of running them upside down?

Weight down. "thumbsup"

EeePee 05-22-2017 02:15 AM

Re: Cloudswimmer's Bully II Build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Evo93 (Post 5710039)
I'm telling you you're wrong

How am I wrong if 6 drops is 7/8ths full? Get over it already. Go back in time to the early days of Tamiya TLT crawlers (2005 I'd guess) and see who ran an internal spring shock set up and you'll find my old posts. And in the Berg section, too. Full droop, semi droop, not droop. All that stuff. I understand how these things work.

Evo93 05-22-2017 04:28 AM

Re: Cloudswimmer's Bully II Build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EeePee (Post 5710105)
How am I wrong if 6 drops is 7/8ths full? Get over it already. Go back in time to the early days of Tamiya TLT crawlers (2005 I'd guess) and see who ran an internal spring shock set up and you'll find my old posts. And in the Berg section, too. Full droop, semi droop, not droop. All that stuff. I understand how these things work.

Because it isn't nearly that full. And if you run them that full. They are no longer shocks they might as well be links.
You get over it. :flipoff:

mikemcE 05-22-2017 05:14 AM

Re: Cloudswimmer's Bully II Build
 
Questioning PP ??
He is THE fawkin expert here!


Hang up and Drive

mikemcE 05-22-2017 06:16 AM

Re: Cloudswimmer's Bully II Build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Evo93 (Post 5710113)
Because it isn't nearly that full. And if you run them that full. They are no longer shocks they might as well be links.

You get over it. :flipoff:



Wet links, awful.


Hang up and Drive


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