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flexmonger · 01-01-2008, 12:51 AM

Just received them today and proceeded in the install.
They are quite shiny and nice and heavy. Test fit them with stock tubes and integy tubes and they are a tight fit, no plastic bushings needed. My integy tubes came with brass bushings and appropiate kingpins which needed to be reused. The accompaying kingpins with the portals can be used with stock tubes with their spacer washers, and I guess with the newer integy tubes.
The knuckle or portal is not a one peice design like their alum. knuckles. They now seperate the steering arm like the RC4WD ones. Except that integy notches the knuckles so that it may not move and sits in a groove with one screw holding it there.
After install I gained about a 1/4" inch + of extra width. I also gained almost 3/4 inch axle diff clearance.
Also the gear reduction is 1.6:1 not 16:1 as many have noted. But a little lower than the RC4WD ones. All togethor and it performed great, but with some hindrances. After install both tires turned the wrong direction and the servo reverse feature on the tq3 was used to corect this.
Also I use 3/4" spacers adapters and they could not be installed due to Integy adding about 5/16" more thread to the axle. This bottomed out the axle nut, and so I had do construct some crude spacers out of some old brass bushings. What is weird is that 3 of 4 portals came with the extra long thread. But the fourth did not, it fit perfectly with the spacer adapter.
Sorry no pics(although I did take pics), I do not have a star to post them. Hope this info helps others, happy new year everyone.

flexmonger · 01-01-2008, 01:21 PM

flexmonger · 01-01-2008, 01:25 PM

flexmonger · 01-01-2008, 01:28 PM

This pic shows the problem with the length of outer axle shaft.

Kamikaze · 01-01-2008, 05:58 PM

6 to 1.......realy? Thats still seems awful low, with stock gears that put you at 180 to 1. Way to low. I'm not saying you are wrong but I would like to see some internal pics of the gears, because when I look at it I don't see how it could be 6 to 1 with the spacing thats there. Any chance we could get some internal pics???

run2jeepn · 01-01-2008, 06:09 PM

Can I get a Pic of the Outer Axle Cup. The Backside of the Knuckles....The Backside of this..

flexmonger · 01-01-2008, 07:23 PM

Sorry I miss typed, like they did. I meant to type 1.6:1. Already have the portals on, but I will give a shot of it looking at the inside of knuckle.

flexmonger · 01-01-2008, 07:28 PM

Look at my clearance. My pimp cane copy has as much clearance now of a TCS stick at the chassis.

Kamikaze · 01-01-2008, 07:52 PM

1.6 to 1 sounds right. Now get some real tires on there and you will have something.

flexmonger · 01-02-2008, 12:25 AM

Actually I was waiting for you to upgrade to the Spektrum dx6i, and allow me to purchase your old dx6. Then I will upgrade the tires.

PROTOTYPE · 01-02-2008, 10:30 AM

Can you use these with the mip cvds ? I had my LHS order them for me and I hope you can. :-(

Thorsteenster · 01-02-2008, 11:18 AM

I wouldn't count on it, atleast with out some modding/fabbing.

So these should work on a TXT too I reckon.

clod booster · 01-02-2008, 11:24 AM

to prototype, you could make them work but it is going to take some fabbing

to thorsteener, yes, txt clod and juggy are all the same type of knucles

Espeefan · 01-05-2008, 10:27 PM

Those are pretty interesting! Any photos of the gears inside the portals? I'd like to see a picture of them opened up!

cspyy · 01-06-2008, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flexmonger

Look at my clearance. My pimp cane copy has as much clearance now of a TCS stick at the chassis.

you oughta try and put the tie rod on top of the steering arms

flexmonger · 01-06-2008, 02:40 PM

Putting the tire rod above the steering arms is a big no no on this setup. The 1/4 scales servos and width and weight are too much for the screws holding them to the arms. All that leverage snaps the screws way too easy. This way their is less leverage and when they snap, I can still back out from the other side. Been there done that.
I need the right size allen to take the portals apart. Let me find that and I will post some internal shots.

Kamikaze · 01-06-2008, 02:55 PM

I've never had a problem.....

flexmonger · 01-06-2008, 03:35 PM

Install the integy alum. center cases and all that weight in a binding situation will do it.

Kamikaze · 01-06-2008, 03:38 PM

Like this??? And those are 1lbs weights under the knuckles with a hair over 400 oz in on the servo.

cspyy · 01-06-2008, 04:15 PM

lol

01-01-2008, 12:51 AM	#1
flexmonger Pebble Pounder Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: hillsboro Posts: 172	integy portals reveiw Just received them today and proceeded in the install. They are quite shiny and nice and heavy. Test fit them with stock tubes and integy tubes and they are a tight fit, no plastic bushings needed. My integy tubes came with brass bushings and appropiate kingpins which needed to be reused. The accompaying kingpins with the portals can be used with stock tubes with their spacer washers, and I guess with the newer integy tubes. The knuckle or portal is not a one peice design like their alum. knuckles. They now seperate the steering arm like the RC4WD ones. Except that integy notches the knuckles so that it may not move and sits in a groove with one screw holding it there. After install I gained about a 1/4" inch + of extra width. I also gained almost 3/4 inch axle diff clearance. Also the gear reduction is 1.6:1 not 16:1 as many have noted. But a little lower than the RC4WD ones. All togethor and it performed great, but with some hindrances. After install both tires turned the wrong direction and the servo reverse feature on the tq3 was used to corect this. Also I use 3/4" spacers adapters and they could not be installed due to Integy adding about 5/16" more thread to the axle. This bottomed out the axle nut, and so I had do construct some crude spacers out of some old brass bushings. What is weird is that 3 of 4 portals came with the extra long thread. But the fourth did not, it fit perfectly with the spacer adapter. Sorry no pics(although I did take pics), I do not have a star to post them. Hope this info helps others, happy new year everyone. Last edited by flexmonger; 01-01-2008 at 07:13 PM.

01-01-2008, 01:21 PM	#2
flexmonger Pebble Pounder Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: hillsboro Posts: 172	pics for you

01-01-2008, 01:25 PM	#3
flexmonger Pebble Pounder Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: hillsboro Posts: 172	2nd pic

01-01-2008, 01:28 PM	#4
flexmonger Pebble Pounder Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: hillsboro Posts: 172	3rd pic This pic shows the problem with the length of outer axle shaft.

01-06-2008, 02:40 PM	#16
flexmonger Pebble Pounder Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: hillsboro Posts: 172	Putting the tire rod above the steering arms is a big no no on this setup. The 1/4 scales servos and width and weight are too much for the screws holding them to the arms. All that leverage snaps the screws way too easy. This way their is less leverage and when they snap, I can still back out from the other side. Been there done that. I need the right size allen to take the portals apart. Let me find that and I will post some internal shots. Last edited by flexmonger; 01-06-2008 at 02:43 PM.

01-01-2008, 05:58 PM	#5
Kamikaze I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Columbia TN Posts: 6,154	6 to 1.......realy? Thats still seems awful low, with stock gears that put you at 180 to 1. Way to low. I'm not saying you are wrong but I would like to see some internal pics of the gears, because when I look at it I don't see how it could be 6 to 1 with the spacing thats there. Any chance we could get some internal pics???

01-01-2008, 06:09 PM	#6
run2jeepn I wanna be Dave Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: USA Posts: 11,196	Can I get a Pic of the Outer Axle Cup. The Backside of the Knuckles....The Backside of this..

01-01-2008, 07:23 PM	#7
flexmonger Pebble Pounder Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: hillsboro Posts: 172	Sorry I miss typed, like they did. I meant to type 1.6:1. Already have the portals on, but I will give a shot of it looking at the inside of knuckle.

01-01-2008, 07:28 PM	#8
flexmonger Pebble Pounder Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: hillsboro Posts: 172	Look at my clearance. My pimp cane copy has as much clearance now of a TCS stick at the chassis.

01-01-2008, 07:52 PM	#9
Kamikaze I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Columbia TN Posts: 6,154	1.6 to 1 sounds right. Now get some real tires on there and you will have something.

01-02-2008, 12:25 AM	#10
flexmonger Pebble Pounder Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: hillsboro Posts: 172	Actually I was waiting for you to upgrade to the Spektrum dx6i, and allow me to purchase your old dx6. Then I will upgrade the tires.

01-02-2008, 10:30 AM	#11
PROTOTYPE RCC Addict Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Xxx Posts: 1,118	Can you use these with the mip cvds ? I had my LHS order them for me and I hope you can. :-(

01-02-2008, 11:18 AM	#12
Thorsteenster I wanna be Dave Join Date: May 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 3,377	I wouldn't count on it, atleast with out some modding/fabbing. So these should work on a TXT too I reckon.

01-02-2008, 11:24 AM	#13
clod booster Rock Crawler Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Salem, Orcrc Posts: 756	to prototype, you could make them work but it is going to take some fabbing to thorsteener, yes, txt clod and juggy are all the same type of knucles

01-05-2008, 10:27 PM	#14
Espeefan Rock Crawler Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 570	Those are pretty interesting! Any photos of the gears inside the portals? I'd like to see a picture of them opened up!

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01-06-2008, 02:55 PM	#17
Kamikaze I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Columbia TN Posts: 6,154	I've never had a problem..... Attached Images

01-06-2008, 03:35 PM	#18
flexmonger Pebble Pounder Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: hillsboro Posts: 172	Install the integy alum. center cases and all that weight in a binding situation will do it.

01-06-2008, 03:38 PM	#19
Kamikaze I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Columbia TN Posts: 6,154	Like this??? And those are 1lbs weights under the knuckles with a hair over 400 oz in on the servo. Attached Images

01-06-2008, 04:15 PM	#20
cspyy Rock Crawler Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Shreveport, La Posts: 544	lol

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