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Old 11-21-2009, 02:27 PM   #1
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Question best way to fix tubes for brazing

i just begun brazing and brazing itself is really easy, but trying to fix the pieces is not easy. tubes are 4 and 6mm thick. i put them on a big magnet (left over from a loudspeaker) but now all my tools are magentized and it's not easy to position the tubes and hold them in place. because of the magnet, the tubes get there own north and south, and keep flipping around :(

what do you guys use to fix the pieces? and pictures maybe?

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Old 11-21-2009, 02:35 PM   #2
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i just begun brazing and brazing itself is really easy, but trying to fix the pieces is not easy. tubes are 4 and 6mm thick. i put them on a big magnet (left over from a loudspeaker) but now all my tools are magentized and it's not easy to position the tubes and hold them in place. because of the magnet, the tubes get there own north and south, and keep flipping around :(

what do you guys use to fix the pieces? and pictures maybe?

thanks in advance
regards izeman

I use mostly welding magnets. I have different sizes. The big one is pretty strong & it holds everything where I need it. You can try clamps also, but I like my magnets.
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Old 11-21-2009, 02:41 PM   #3
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what are 'welding magnets'? are they some special types? what do they look like, and where to buy? i mean not the name of the shop, as we don't have them in europe, but what kind of shop.

thanks!

EDIT i just googled, and found some of them. which of those many products can you recommend?

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Old 11-21-2009, 04:50 PM   #4
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I don't have these exact ones, but they're similar.

http://www.toolprice.com/category/we...eldingmagnets/

Get a few mini ones and two different size large ones & you should be good.
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Old 11-21-2009, 05:15 PM   #5
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if you use those careful with the flame, the magnet will burn, catch fire and even melt.

regular magnets will work but over time lose their strength from the heat. if you heat them up to much or try to use the flame on them becareful, they will crack and break apart.
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Old 11-21-2009, 05:40 PM   #6
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when i have the stuff to braze i use "hands" 10awg solid copper wire with aligator clips on the ends,,two clips per hand and i usually make like five or six,,bend em where you want em and braze away
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I made my own set of heatproof "extra hands" for brazing a few months back. Here is a write-up:

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hey clint,,i didnt see yours til now,,mine were mounted in pieces of 2x4 so several could hold sections together,,i like yours too,,btw,,how ya been?
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I made something very similar also, one thing I had problems with is the clips losing there tension when I got them too hot.
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hey clint,,i didnt see yours til now,,mine were mounted in pieces of 2x4 so several could hold sections together,,i like yours too,,btw,,how ya been?
Things are good, thanks Thomas. Glad to see that you are still making your ideas real.

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I made something very similar also, one thing I had problems with is the clips losing there tension when I got them too hot.
Yeah, any spring will loose it's springiness with enough heat. I have some heavy duty alligator clips that will hold up to everything but direct heat from the torch. Just make sure you clip the tube an inch or so away from the joint. They do fall apart sometimes though, especially when I try to braze while drinking beer. I just keep a few spares on hand.
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I made something very similar also, one thing I had problems with is the clips losing there tension when I got them too hot.
i can confirm that. same problem here. springs and heat don't go togehter. like magnets and heat :(
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