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Old 01-20-2010, 09:41 PM   #1
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Default Question about 2 Solders found at Home Depot??

I know everyone recommends Harris Safety-Silv but I am curious to know if anyone has used either of these solders from Home Depot to build tubers out of rod or brakeline?


Oatey Safe Flo - Silver

http://www.homedepot.com/Oatey/h_d1/...atalogId=10053

Bernzomatic Acid Core Solder - Metal Work Solder

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...atalogId=10053
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Old 01-21-2010, 08:39 AM   #2
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Reading the Spec's, the melting point is alot lower then harris. That tells me that it is softer, therefor would make weaker joints.
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I did notice the melting points, but I am wondering how much weaker? I am only building a tube frame for my MRC, so it will require much less strength than a 2.2 or a super.

I may give it a try because it is cheap and readily available, which the Harris isn't to me.

I am curious if anyone has actually used either before?
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Have you tried looking for the silver solder at a art's and craft store? Supposed to be cheap and good. Im currently looking for it too. But for a 2.2 build.
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yeah, but no luck so far on finding it.
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Try a welding shop or supply store, or even a metal supplier. Both should have access to what you need, whether or not they stock it.
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Bernzomatic Acid Core Solder - Metal Work Solder

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...atalogId=10053

i have used this one and i had no issues with it. I ran out and got the Lenox stuff thats equivalent to it, and im not liking it so much. I think i only had 1 or 2 joints break on me with the bernzomatic, but i blame that on poor "fish mouthing" and impropper fitment of said joints.

or the mass consumption of adult beverage's whilist brazing
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thanks friscokidd, i was able to find some safety silv 45 but it wasnt cheap. i may give the bernzomatic a try sometime as well, see how they compare.
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you can find it at some radio shacks too if i remember riight
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I work for a HVAC supply store. Check with one of them. They should have
Harris Stay Brite #8 1/16" Silver Solder the good stuff there.

The new refridgerant R410 runs on very hi pressures compared to the old R22 and this stuff works for it.
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I did notice the melting points, but I am wondering how much weaker? I am only building a tube frame for my MRC, so it will require much less strength than a 2.2 or a super.

I may give it a try because it is cheap and readily available, which the Harris isn't to me.

I am curious if anyone has actually used either before?

I have tried the Alphametals brand of acid core Metal Work solder, it is exactly the same as that Bernzomatic stuff you linked to. It might hold up for you, it depends on how well designed and built the frame is and how you play with it. That stuff is great for static models, and joining copper pipes, but along with that low melting point comes a very low tensile strength. It is significantly weaker than the high (45-56%) silver content stuff. I have tried several methods before and wont waste anymore time with the cheap solder.

Here is athread with some more info:
Tix Solder and Tix Flux. Need opinions before buying.

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