silver soldering vs brazing

[Nate08]

Originally Posted by 93 FORD BRONCO

i have a propane torch. will this work or does it have to be mapp gas

Propane does not get hot enough. Mapp by itself does for most things you'd use on an rc. If you get into heavy solid rod then you'll want to look at either an oxy/mapp or an oxy/acetalene setup. Do not get the benzomatic one that uses disposable oxygen cylinders you'll waste a ton of money on the oxygen. Quite a few builders on here swear by the Smith Little Torch for that type of setup.

[JohnRobHolmes]

If you have a store in town that supplies HVAC repairmen, they probably have some Harris Silv and fluxes there.

[gomery12]

Originally Posted by Nate08

Quite a few builders on here swear by the Smith Little Torch for that type of setup.

Little Smith Torch will run around $136 and that does not include the regulators that you'll need. They do have preadjusted regulators that go on the disposables that run around $60 on ebay that I saw. The adjustable regulators sell for around $95, but this allows for a bigger size and refillable tanks. So it'll be around the $400 dollar range and higher depending on which set up you go.

[transambill]

Originally Posted by Nate08

Propane does not get hot enough. Mapp by itself does for most things you'd use on an rc. If you get into heavy solid rod then you'll want to look at either an oxy/mapp or an oxy/acetalene setup. Do not get the benzomatic one that uses disposable oxygen cylinders you'll waste a ton of money on the oxygen. Quite a few builders on here swear by the Smith Little Torch for that type of setup.

I agree,
I started out with the Benzomatic Propane/Oxy setup and even finding the oxy for $4.00 per cylinjder at Home Depot it's too expensive. About 15 minutes of work time per oxy cylinder.

I just went this route,
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

getting my tanks and caddy locally but if you have the $ to spend here's a kit with everything.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Harris Safety Silver solder, little over $10 bucks an ounce,
http://cgi.ebay.com/Five-Troy-Ounces...item1c13c84ddf

I got the combo in the first link, the others turned up in a search since I was on e-bay already anyway.

[93 FORD BRONCO]

Originally Posted by transambill

I agree,
I started out with the Benzomatic Propane/Oxy setup and even finding the oxy for $4.00 per cylinjder at Home Depot it's too expensive. About 15 minutes of work time per oxy cylinder.

I just went this route,
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

getting my tanks and caddy locally but if you have the $ to spend here's a kit with everything.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Harris Safety Silver solder, little over $10 bucks an ounce,
http://cgi.ebay.com/Five-Troy-Ounces...item1c13c84ddf

I got the combo in the first link, the others turned up in a search since I was on e-bay already anyway.

for that price i could just buy watever i want to braze

[sloppy]

Good tools are never cheap..

[War Pig]

Originally Posted by 93 FORD BRONCO

for that price i could just buy watever i want to braze

With that attitude you should let other people build everything for you. The best part of scale is the satisfaction of designing and building all your own stuff. I bought a complete oxy-acetylene setup off craigslist for $225, then bought a 5 oz. roll and can of flux for $90 and Ive built 2 tube chassis plus countless bumpers, sliders, etc. A little silver solder goes a long ways, especially once you get good with it. Try it out, nothin wrong with learning a new skill.......

[AZINDY]

I have some Safety Silv 15 and I would be using it with an oxy/acetalene setup. Any chance that would work?

[93 FORD BRONCO]

Originally Posted by War Pig

With that attitude you should let other people build everything for you. The best part of scale is the satisfaction of designing and building all your own stuff. I bought a complete oxy-acetylene setup off craigslist for $225, then bought a 5 oz. roll and can of flux for $90 and Ive built 2 tube chassis plus countless bumpers, sliders, etc. A little silver solder goes a long ways, especially once you get good with it. Try it out, nothin wrong with learning a new skill.......

well i would but i dont have that kinda money

[Code454]

I just bought a Smith - The little torch..... i wasnt gonna order it but i did

[War Pig]

Originally Posted by AZINDY

I have some Safety Silv 15 and I would be using it with an oxy/acetalene setup. Any chance that would work?

I don't have any experience with SS15, but I'm thinking that it might not work too well.

[Code454]

Originally Posted by War Pig

I don't have any experience with SS15, but I'm thinking that it might not work too well.

it would require more heat.... i found silvaloy a45 by wolverine joining technologies, easier to find in canada but just ordered some harris with my torch

[sloppy]

Originally Posted by 93 FORD BRONCO

well i would but i dont have that kinda money

50 bucks and you can have a mapp torch and tank.. by some freaking brazing rod at Home depot and learn how to do it.. You dont have to spend 300 bucks on gear to make parts.

[War Pig]

Originally Posted by sloppy

50 bucks and you can have a mapp torch and tank.. by some freaking brazing rod at Home depot and learn how to do it.. You dont have to spend 300 bucks on gear to make parts.

But it makes it much easier .

[93 FORD BRONCO]

Originally Posted by sloppy

50 bucks and you can have a mapp torch and tank.. by some freaking brazing rod at Home depot and learn how to do it.. You dont have to spend 300 bucks on gear to make parts.

tru that thanks man so just to be clear in order for me to start brazzing as cheaply as possible all i need is a mapp gas torch some brazzing rod and some brass tubing. am i right or am i forgeting something?

[Code454]

Originally Posted by War Pig

But it makes it much easier .

You are totally right...

Originally Posted by 93 FORD BRONCO

tru that thanks man so just to be clear in order for me to start brazzing as cheaply as possible all i need is a mapp gas torch some brazzing rod and some brass tubing. am i right or am i forgeting something?

not brass tubing either brakeline or some type of steel so you can figure out how hot you need to heat it up to get proper flow

[93 FORD BRONCO]

Originally Posted by Code454

You are totally right...




not brass tubing either brakeline or some type of steel so you can figure out how hot you need to heat it up to get proper flow

where can i buy brakeline

[Code454]

Originally Posted by 93 FORD BRONCO

where can i buy brakeline

any automotive store in ur area.....where else do u buy brakeline

[93 FORD BRONCO]

Originally Posted by Code454

any automotive store in ur area.....where else do u buy brakeline

thats what i figured just double checking. any ideas on the prices

[Code454]

Originally Posted by 93 FORD BRONCO

thats what i figured just double checking. any ideas on the prices

cheap