Hittman's Super Mini Build

[Hittman]

Originally Posted by grunt95

I call lies! Well yours arnt black but heres a link from the bay
MOA Kit per Losi CCR NCR Porno Crawler | eBay

Gota love their name..

Nice find! I honestly havnt looked much. I was sent a link to my set, other than that I havnt looked.

That's pretty much exactly my set, but black and has different engraving (different company). I forget what company these are.. "Something Crawlers".. Or "blah blah crawlers".. Idk.

[douwe]

whats the width of your car.. Im having some issues to find out what to build.. I have a second bully2 with sudu pro chassis sitting over here... I can make it into a unlimited of super if i want.. Both classes arent normal over here... no one has one of them

[jebster]

What motor and axle pinion combo are you running. I'm getting parts together to make a rig based on the same axle setup.

[Hittman]

Originally Posted by douwe

whats the width of your car.. Im having some issues to find out what to build.. I have a second bully2 with sudu pro chassis sitting over here... I can make it into a unlimited of super if i want.. Both classes arent normal over here... no one has one of them

Originally Posted by Hittman

9 5/8" front, 9 3/8" rear

Post #12

Originally Posted by jebster

What motor and axle pinion combo are you running. I'm getting parts together to make a rig based on the same axle setup.

I am running a 16t 5mm pinion on the axles, 12t pinion on the motors. The wheel speed is actually quite surprising. Not sure of torque yet. Going for the maiden run on the rocks tomorrow. I'll for sure get some pics.. Maybe some video

[Hittman]

Got out for a good day of practice!



Few posers







The 400 pullers were a perfect fit

[Hittman]

Here is a little video from yesterday. Not too long, but it shows a little bit.

https://youtu.be/GfeoK2oMrj0

For some reason I cannot get the video to embed... Keeps saying invalid webpage. Idk

[Hittman]

So here is what I found from running this rig..

1. This is NOT a pro rig! For my courses all I did was narrow up the pro gates we were running.. And changed a few of the tall ledges, due to the shorter wheel base of this rig.

2. I need to adjust my expectations BIG time! The problem was I was going out, expecting this rig to do (not exactly, but close) what my pro rig could do. The much narrower trackwidth totally changes the game. As well as the shorter wheelbase.

After the first pack I was honestly disappointed. But after some thinking, We will be running these on the same courses as the Mini Crawlers. A mini course is NOTHING like a pro course.. the breakovers, sidehills, verticals, downhills.. everything is different! I have never setup or ran official mini courses. So I couldn't set up anything that resembled one.

In the video, you can see on gate 3, I really struggle with that vertical.. That vertical wouldn't exist on a mini course. So what I am thinking is once this rig is on the correct course, it should do a lot better?

3. These RC4WD Bully tires are NOT impressive. They will be getting changed out very shortly. But, they did show me what I wanted to know. As far as the width goes, they are perfect. But, height could honestly be shorter. Going back to running these rigs on mini courses, Having a shorter tire on this rig, would definitely help with the COG. This rig has good COG, but being so narrow effects it tremendously. The height is not needed for a mini course either. The tallest mini tire is 4.75", then you have as skid with a transmission on it. This is a pro chassis, so with short tires, you will still have all the skid clearance you need.These are right about 5.5", I am thinking somewhere around 5" would be perfect.


Being a new class, with nothing to judge against, its very hard to say what is good, what works, what sucks, ect.. Erik has pointed that out about his rig as well. I think Worlds is going to be very interesting

[Jslick]

Looking great! The short look I got with the video looked like you might want to bump up the shock oil a bit to help with stability. Just a thought.

[Dravpnir]

Good to see some more videos of this new class, especially one running a SuDu chassis

It will be interesting to see how this one compares to the mini crawler.

The mini crawlers even has a tire maximum of 4.25"

[Hittman]

Originally Posted by Jslick

Looking great! The short look I got with the video looked like you might want to bump up the shock oil a bit to help with stability. Just a thought.

The rig actually felt a bit stiff. These big bores definately feel different than the scx shocks I am used to.

Originally Posted by Dravpnir

Good to see some more videos of this new class, especially one running a SuDu chassis

It will be interesting to see how this one compares to the mini crawler.

The mini crawlers even has a tire maximum of 4.25"

That is correct! I had class 2 scalers on the mind I guess. I think some shorter tires are in order for this rig, then I think I can do some real testing.

[Erik D_lux]

Originally Posted by Jslick

Looking great! The short look I got with the video looked like you might want to bump up the shock oil a bit to help with stability. Just a thought.

I have the same issues as Hitt, I have not driven the car enough to see where the instability comes from but this seems like a good idea. Might even have to try my sway bar as it really helped my super.

Originally Posted by Hittman

2. I need to adjust my expectations BIG time! The problem was I was going out, expecting this rig to do (not exactly, but close) what my pro rig could do. The much narrower trackwidth totally changes the game. As well as the shorter wheelbase.

After the first pack I was honestly disappointed. But after some thinking, We will be running these on the same courses as the Mini Crawlers. A mini course is NOTHING like a pro course.. the breakovers, sidehills, verticals, downhills.. everything is different! I have never setup or ran official mini courses. So I couldn't set up anything that resembled one.

In the video, you can see on gate 3, I really struggle with that vertical.. That vertical wouldn't exist on a mini course. So what I am thinking is once this rig is on the correct course, it should do a lot better?

Yeah, I wouldnt get down on the car. There are just a few of us really breaking ground. It will take some time to get them dialed in. Maybe even years?

I wouldnt take assumptions on what courses will look like though. Remember, they could be anything. They could put an advantage to a 6" wheelbase or a 20" wheelbase. There could be an advantage to a 4.25" tall tire or 6". We dont know. I do think a 2.2p course might be a good setup if there are gates that are take-able on each gate. Typically 2.2p courses dont have super hard gates, not like you would run while fun crawling anyway.

[JOEY_P]

Lovin' the cliff danger.. Great vid..

Originally Posted by Hittman

Here is a little video from yesterday. Not too long, but it shows a little bit.

https://youtu.be/GfeoK2oMrj0

For some reason I cannot get the video to embed... Keeps saying invalid webpage. Idk

[Hittman]

Anyone ever wonder what a 5" Voodoo would look like?







Less "superish" but more fitting I think.




Now I can get a little bit narrower hubs.


Noticeable difference between the two.


Also installed some aluminum knuckles and chubs on the rear. These had a layer of dust on the package when I bought them.. LHS had these for at least 4 years lol

[Erik D_lux]

Tease....

I will be interested to see what you think of the smaller tires. It makes me wonder if we need portals that are upside down?

[FLOKI-81]

whats up with the superlite axels in pieces all around the rig??
Plans to change axels???

[Krawler Kev]

Originally Posted by FLOKI-81

whats up with the superlite axels in pieces all around the rig??
Plans to change axels???

I bet it's his super.

[Curcal]

Those are definitely super tubes.

[Hittman]

Idk what ya'll are talking about...

[Curcal]

It'll never work.....

[Hittman]

Originally Posted by Curcal

It'll never work.....

now that you mention it..