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12-01-2011, 09:08 PM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: IN A HOUSE
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Hello i just made a order for a red creeper , after reading for a few days i found that this crawler is a good start , little background ... Ive been in to rc cars and trucks since i was a kid , mostly drifting the old rctc3 and the rc10t3, i went to a few races but the sport was far to expencive for my pocket!! so i got the creeper , its the best crawler  i cant wait for it to show up.... so i problem idk what esc, motor , to buy ,the esc's and motors servos i have are about 8 yrs old .. For now i have a 1800 nickle 6 cell a few old novak 6 cell esc a few futba servos mabe a traxxas one also a bran new venom 3 chn reciver and remote and a venom creeper roller any ideas would be cool thanks |
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12-02-2011, 07:05 AM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Douglassville, PA
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Welcome back to the hobby! I warn you, this stuff can get addicting (and expensive) very quickly. Cool thing about crawling is you can go low-buck and basic, or high dollar - either way you can have a good time. What you have wil get you started, though after a while you'll want to upgrade I'm sure. Your stock motor will get you rolling, but I suggest eventually looking into a lathe mtor for your creeper. Lathe motors are lower RPM, higher torque and ideal for crawlers. The work with pretty much any ESC as well. Integy makes a bunch of low cost, fairly dependable motors that won't break the bank. Something in the 45-65t range should work well. Higher the turns, the lower the RPM's and the more torque it has. You'll probably want to upgrade your servo as well - a basic one won't last long. Something with metal gears and loads of torque is ideal. I'm sure this is debatable, but I look for 200oz of torque or more at least to get rolling - again, more torque is better. Read all the creeper threads and you'll get some more ideas - the above are just the basics. Ask specific questions. The sky is really the limit, and you can eventually go brushless, lipo, programmable radios.... and then there's all the aluminum goodies, different chassis, etc... |
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12-02-2011, 08:17 AM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: IN A HOUSE
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Thanks OCRC ! Ill start looking for a 200oz servo rear lock outs front alum knuckles hubs , BTA steer..ect Im going to stay w the stock chassis for now . ill add sweet upgrades later this week !!  i got some more reading to do but on the buget $$.. i need a esc , if some one could point me in the right way w a part number for a esc from ckrc,i would like to get one just for crawling . i only have NICD 6 cells right now , thanks for the info |
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12-02-2011, 08:36 AM
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| Yashua   Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Learn the parable of the fig tree
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Welcome to the sickness, I would'nt recommend the alluminum knuckles and c hubs from the beginning as the stock parts are very adequte. I would recommend pin locks for the axle pins though and the money saved would probally pay for a esc or a couple lipo's. check out this thread; RMDW T's & T's & set up and there are many others on the Creeper that will explain all the pro's and con's. |
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12-02-2011, 03:42 PM
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| RCC Addict Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: pullin somebody else out of a mud hole
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welcome to the sickness santa cruz
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12-02-2011, 06:44 PM
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| RCC Addict Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Ringwood
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for an esc you have plenty of options for it you got the novak rooster, tekin fxr, caslt creations sidewinder, and the holmes brxl for a motor i would go for a tekin motor because they are very durable and last and i would go for a 45t on a 19t pinion for a servo i would go for somthing 300oz and up with a castle bec i run a hitec 7954 and it works great its got 408oz at 7.4v for $100 and i would defiantly order some RMD parts (to start: the creeper link, pin lox, and the Lincoln lockers, and i would say the btl plate as well) |
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12-02-2011, 06:54 PM
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| Rock Crawler Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: hampton
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i run this esc. it has a lipo cut off and a crawler setting LOSI LOSB9522 MSC12L FORWARD/REVERSE ESC SCT STRIKE | eBay check hobbypartz.com for servos, there EXI servos are cheap and they work good. and they got lipos cheap too. i like the turnigy lipos from hobbyking.com better though |
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12-02-2011, 07:42 PM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: IN A HOUSE
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Thanks everyone ... Im going to hobbie store about 50 miles ,get the lipo ,charger, and possibly a esc. Ill bring my old motors w me to see if there worth turning ! Im looking for those brass pin locks w a part number,,, can i tig weld these pins in ?.. Again thanks for the info ...  |
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12-03-2011, 12:03 AM
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| RCC Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Malta, NY
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RMDW T's & T's & set up this is the full line of parts that he offers to the guys that run a creeper | |
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12-03-2011, 08:29 AM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: 07456 N. NJ USofA
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I would NOT weld the pins in!! At some point, you will want to replace them or do other work, with the pins welded, you will be SOL.  Get the RMD pin locks, they are just a tight fitting thin walled brass to retain the pins. Very worth the small cost. Your old ESC's likely don't have a great brake, they may/may not have a reverse. Getting a more crawler specific ESC is preferred. If you get a Castle Creations (or Holmes Hobbies) or Tekin ESC, get the programming cable as well. One reason I like the CC ESC's is that the Castle Link programming cable also adjusts Castle Creations external BEC's! Oh, read, several times, the RMD T&T's thread. You WILL save money by doing it right the 1st time.  |
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12-03-2011, 06:53 PM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: IN A HOUSE
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OK, after readin for like 24 hrs ... i want some paradox parts !! i need rmd pin locks ,little brass ones the vx btx sevo mount & high steer arm , & high steer post for sevo control ! the spacer for the batt tray delete !! I also want some of tha pipe that you guy make links w 3 ft also is the link pipe threaded? and a picture of the spider gears jb welded !! i just want to see where to put it !! i understand about not getting jb on the shafts I want to say awsome work to the paradox team !! you guys are why i got this crawler , creeper bubba , rm , ect .. i read all your threads!! |
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12-03-2011, 07:30 PM
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| RCC Addict Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Ringwood
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just get in the places were it will lock the gears and lock them well
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12-03-2011, 08:01 PM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: IN A HOUSE
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Trying to upload pics Photo buckets lame |
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12-03-2011, 09:17 PM
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| Rock Crawler Join Date: May 2010 Location: Albuquerque
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Glad to see more faces on this forum. Sounds like you know where you want to go and you have a good handle on what you need to get it done. . . Idk if you have seen my thread or not but I run a tekin fxr with a hh 32t torqumaster on 19t pinion (equivalent to a conventional 45t motor) i like the tekin esc because of its amazingly small size and on-board programming capabilities makes it very versatile and you can find them for around 150 for a esc/motor combo. Im also running a ccbec programmed to 7.4v feeding a Hitec 7954sh turning 403oz. Of torque. For chassis Im running all paradox. Xr chassis btl plate and axle trusses. Xvd drive axles and traxxas long truck shafts with steel yokes. Hr c-hubs, lockouts and knuckles. Paradox pin lox and paradox duel disc foams in side hb rovers wrapped around a set of motoworx aluminum 2.2 wheels. And I absolutely love the way this rig works. Best or luck and I can't wait to see your take on our beloved creeper Chappy |
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12-04-2011, 07:44 AM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: IN A HOUSE
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Thanks for the kind words!! I don't know what I'm doing .., but I got a long cold winter,, I don't any thing about lipo batt , lipo brushless motors Programable esc , it's been about 8yr since I have been up to date w the electronic side of the hobbie, I have a 1979 Toyota 4x4 w a allpro 5" lift , marlin crawler highsteer 4.10 gears. And a duel 22.8 cases. "two transfercases mated together"!! I built a few of these back in California , Somthin me and my friends do . Were all Toyota freaks! Any way I think I got an idea of what to do , I'm off to get jb weld , red locktite and Mabe some venom green candy paint at the local auto store Pics are not loading as of now , sorry I'll keep tryin. |
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12-04-2011, 09:30 AM
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| Rock Crawler Join Date: May 2010 Location: Albuquerque
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If you want send em to me and I can post em for you
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12-04-2011, 10:12 AM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: ...the burning end of the rope.
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Welcome SCC....because you are new to the hobby id suggest a Tekin FX/R or Novak Rooster Crawler for the ESC and a 55 turn motor with a 19 tooth pinion...the 55t/19 tooth combo will give good torque and wheel speed that you can easily control and learn from. Lipos are definitely in your future if you want to enjoy this side of the rc hobby...lipos are so much smaller than nicads/nimhs and have much higher output...they do have some querks that you need to learn and obey for perfromance and safety but dont be scared of them. If you stick with Nicads/Nimhs for now then you should reconfigure them into saddle packs and mount them to the front axle on either side of the steering servo.
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12-04-2011, 01:33 PM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: IN A HOUSE
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Rm... That's pretty much what I needed to know!! Thanks ! I feel like a total newb askin this but , will a nimh esc work with a lipo batt?... I'm under the impression that as long as I get a lipo charger it will all work w my team novak 610-rv 6 to 10 cell reverse model,, hi frequency magafet esc Made in USA !!! Thanks paradox team !! I'm also would like to e mail rm paradox member about some vulture pieces !! |
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12-04-2011, 02:15 PM
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| RCC Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Malta, NY
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yes a nimh esc will work with a lipo battery as i am running a setup like that on my spec touring car. but there is a very big possibly that the battery could be damaged if u run it too low. if u do end up doing that, u will want to get a smart stop or cutoff module to wire into the esc and power plug to stop the risk of damaging the battery esc and for your sack the whole vehicle. i'm running a novak 2s lipo smart stop on my spec touring car with a keyence rapida pro esc. this esc is not rated for use with a lipo battery. sense I'm only running a 2s lipo its like i'm only running a 6-7 cell nimh battery. but u can still hurt the battery if u discharge it to far. that's where the smart stop comes in. it will cut off voltage or power to drive the vehicle when the battery gets low and requires a charge. i'm also running a 3s novak smart stop on my novak rooster crawler esc as that esc is not rated for a 3s lipo only a 2s lipo. based of the cell count of the lipo u are going to use will determine whether u get a 2s or 3s lipo smart stop/ cut off module. a good lipo charger is a must if u don't want to keep buying new lipos all the time. u always want to get a charger that is rated to be able to handle a lipo battery up to the highest cell lipo battery u are going to use. and for a beginner with lipos it would also be easier to get a lipo charger that had a built in balancer as this will monitor the voltage level of every cell and charge each cell individually to keep the battery at tip top shape. i would recammend this Imax B6-Pro 50W 6S LiPO Charger - Chargers - Power i run this charger and it works great. it has a built in balancer so u don't have to worry about an external balancer. it can also be run off a ac power supply or a dc power supply when out in the field crawling hope this all helps u when picking the right lipo batt, charger, and esc Last edited by venomcrawlerdud; 12-04-2011 at 02:19 PM. | |
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12-04-2011, 05:33 PM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: IN A HOUSE
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venomcrawlerdud ... cool so ill get this charger in the next month as well as a lipo batt!! no funds at this time.,, ill look for the lipo cutt off unit,, a link would be cooll!! ....newbe!! parodox team ...chappy40 thanks for helping w the pictures . and all the quik tips ... ill send some asap also my buddy has a paint shop ect mostly choppers and baggers... he said he would air brush my creeper body w some candy paint .... ill go over there in the mornin w some beer !! see what happens  sleep time ,,, my venom v3 controler should be at my po box in the morin!! |
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