jeepron
Pebble Pounder
You sure are filled with alot of knowledge...are you a history teacher or something??
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9/11 Theories
- Thread starter Duuuuuuuude
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You sure are filled with alot of knowledge...are you a history teacher or something??
No, I just sleep at quite a few Holiday Inns. "thumbsup"
rock hard
dnf
nope,you just don't get it yet.......its your perspective,and as such,your reality
Just as guns don't kill,cuz they don't have the capability.....they do nothing.
The hammer doesn't drive the nail...................its man
the gun doesn't kill........................................its man
suv's don't kill..............................................its man
and government isn't evil,nor business.............its man
By making the premise guns kill,and demonizing them
the enocent gun owner are demonized swell
by saying big business is evil,the honest business man is demonized swell
by saying government is evil,the honest politicians are demonized.
Its men who are evil,and nothing else,individual men..........and that it
My perspective is that certain people in certain government agencies did and do highly illegal and immoral things. That is the reality.
If you remove the people from the gun, you still have a gun. If you remove the people from a government or corporation, you have empty buildings. A government is not an inanimate object, without the people that comprise it it will not exist in any form whatsoever. It exists soley in the spirit of its people.
Then the honest people need to stand the fawk up and do something.
nascarkeith
Rock Crawler
Yes, yes I am.
Yes, yes you are the one who posts here during the class you're supposedly teaching? :ror:
nascarkeith
Rock Crawler
Planning period ;-)
Uh-huh.
rock hard
dnf
we are,and we will be kicking his out on the street very soon,ny is a preview
of the landslide coming."thumbsup"
see another thing,it depends on which side your looking from as to who is the problem
see,every man,in his deepest subconscious will justify his own ideas and actions to himself.
So if you are justified in your own mind,then your not doing anything wrong in
your mind,as the end justifies the means if its justified.
sux that we are that way,but there is no changing it,its who we are.
You will always justify your beliefs,I will justify mine
thats why there really is no ONE truth,there is always many truths,truths based on different ideologies and perspective.
oh dude,I forgot.....you mentioned that "certain people in government" have done things.
Thats a good step for you,see it wasn't government,hit was the people in government.
The government doesn't exist with our man,your correct for sure.but the people in government are ever changing
every election cycle..........clearly they all are not evil,in fact I would argue quite the contrary.
but the elected officials have never been the ones I fear..........its the ones who are appointed
but I never have feared government,just certain individuals.....within government
like the fda,they have a lot of power.......how did they get there,how do we as a people get rid of them if we disagree with their ideologies?
The ones we as voters have no control over are the ones worry about,as man gains power its in his nature to abuse it,especially if left unchecked.
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I agree. A truly crazy or evil person doesn't see that they are crazy or evil. If they did they wouldn't be like that. There is a certain recognition of right and wrong in everyone, and if it can be reasoned that they are doing something wrong they will naturally try to correct it.
There are basic truths, and then there are the uncertain circumstances around them.
The basic truth about 9/11 is that airborn objects hit buildings, there was fire and smoke, and at some point those buildings fell down. The uncertain circumstances are whether or not those airborn objects were passenger planes, cargo planes, cruise missles, or drones, and who their pilots or operators were are uncertain to most, but really truly known by only a few.
We know what we saw on tv, but that doesn't make it true. We know what we are told, but that doesn't make that true either. We can also gather as much information as we can and make an educated guess, but that doesn't make truth either.
When I say government or business or corporation, I don't mean that in an all encompassing manner. At the same time I'm not going to list everyone that I think is bad or evil or doing wrong every time we talk about it.
Just like when you mention something derogatory about liberals you don't mean that you disagree with every single point or theory they have. You can't be that perfectly opposite unless you do it on principal, which is why this country is getting so fawked up.
There are plenty of elected officials to fear, just as there are appointed officials that do great things. Then there are appointed officials to fear who come around again and get elected to an even greater seat. Those are the ones you really have to watch out for.
rock hard
dnf
duuude your so far gone......I thought you to be a little smarter.
If youu have even the slightest idea that what you saw that day was a missile,or a drone I can't help you,and there is no use taking to you about it.
I know what I saw that day,and I know what I DIDNT see in any of the video I have revisited.
I don't have to have a still picture to know i had a dream,or know what the dream was about.......I don't have to have scientific evidence that the heat I feel comes from the sun..............sometimes commonsense is sufficient enough......you it instead of trying to nick pick the stuff there is no reason to doubt.
The building 7....ok....keep looking....
the downing of the towers even,bu the planes?
come on,it is just what it was.......I can't see the pilots.
but I know what I see on vid,and KNOTHING looks suspicious
if it does to you.......get a pic and point out exactly what it is you think isn't what it seems
rock hard
dnf
My mom is a liberal,I lover her,but she is still a liberal........Liberals are destroying what I love about this country,and have been for some time.
and there are liberal republicans......I disagree with them too.
It all boils down to what is right and left
the more to the right,the more states rights
the more to the left,the more power to the federal gov
Yeah,liberals suck,no matter how good their personalities are,their politics are socialist by design,and not the type of government I desire my children's children to live in
jeepron
Pebble Pounder
i was watching a video and they were showing one of the underside of the planes, i believ the second on, had a long piece under the plane, then a poof of smoke went off BEFORE the plane made contact with the building, i also dont believe it was a plane that hit the pentagon,the hole was WAY too small, and like everyone says, the most video taped building and no video footage of the plane,also the hole was perfectly round,so obviously the wings and tail section were sheared off but where are they,
A drone is an unmanned, remotely controlled plane.
Whether or not there was a pilot and passengers onboard, the only ones that know for sure 100% were the ones that were on that plane when it hit. We were told there were and that is all we have to go on. All we know for sure is that planes hit buildings.
Whether they fell because of fire or because of explosives, you and I cannot know for sure. We can watch videos and listen to professionals, but we cannot know unless we were there in that building and either saw it collapse on its own or see the explosives detonated.
Unless you are at that exact place at that exact time, there is a world of alternatives that could have happened and you would be none the wiser. The best you can do is start removing anything that is not remotely plausible and work towards mostly plausible. Even then you are working off of speculation and third party information.
rock hard
dnf
you need to find the vid with the puff of smoke
There is no long piece under the 2nd plane
there is a shadow
sun is on the right side of the plane,the right side engine is casting a shadow on the belly of the plane......look close,and right before the plane hits,the "pod"
elongates just a touch....its a shadow.
I saw no smoke,but right before the planes hit,each time there is what appears to be a burst of light........thats the lights from the plane reflecting back,and appearing as a flash.
Notice no outward debra with the flashes of light.
yeah,I agree,the crash sight is not what I would expect to see.
but the planes in the available videos,have nothing to give me pause
The Pentagon is one of the most secure, well built building on the planet. There is not much that would punch a perfectly proportioned hole in it. Its safe to say that an aluminum and titanium plane would not poke through it like it was made of paper.
Personally, the fact that the tail and wings did not damage the wall does not surprise me. However, I don't buy the story that the plane more or less vaporized into itty bitty bits.
rock hard
dnf
Thats a difference between you and I
see,you may not be able to know for sure that I had a pain on my neck,just cuz YOU don't know doesn't mean I didn't.
and you maybe it looks like it rained last night,with your thought process....
There is rain on the ground,and the rain gauge has rain in it.....but you was asleep,you didn't see it,so you can't prove it cuz you wasn't there to see and feel the rain as it fell.......:lmao:
rock hard
dnf
that I can agree with
in the towers,well there is so much ruble......but not at the pentagon
But hey,look how they clean up after a weather ballon hits the ground:ror:
