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9/11 Theories
- Thread starter Duuuuuuuude
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rock hard
dnf
I watched alot of vids
airplane only
The impacts are not suppicious
The supposed bomb load from #2 is a shadow from the starbosrd engine cast from the sun from the starbord side
The lights seen right before impacts on the buildings are from the lights
on the plane glaring back from the windows of the buildings
I personaly saw no credible video able to clearly show no windows
airplane only
The impacts are not suppicious
The supposed bomb load from #2 is a shadow from the starbosrd engine cast from the sun from the starbord side
The lights seen right before impacts on the buildings are from the lights
on the plane glaring back from the windows of the buildings
I personaly saw no credible video able to clearly show no windows
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vonclod
Rock Crawler
not too long ago the kkk where blowing up black churches and much worse..they are a christian group
the ira..lots of stuff blown up there
heres a few other examples
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism
like i said its bad people that use it as a tool to manipulate
its all good we all have our beliefs
as for the wtc complex my biggest problem is building 7 and how quickly it fell and pretty much fell right into its own footprint..a blasting co would be proud to pull that kida job off..hard to believe that fire melted all the beam in all the right places at exactly the same time for it to fall like that..it seems incocievable that any of the buildings could of been wired for demolition..unless perhaps newer blasting technolegy exists like something that could be just painted on to the beam..but how do you wire it all up for detonation, i stumbled onto something "lazer detonation"..i dunno about all that but building 7 isnt right
rock hard
dnf
hmm,so tell me,what church does the kk yo mention go too?
The kk was made up from men,not from any one faith,just men
where some church goers,probably.But they acted as men,not in the name of any church or religion that I'm awar of
Poor example IMO,especially seince its from our past
This generation,who is most dangerouse to your country?
Not the kkk,islam thats who,your prime minister is smarter than you give credit I think...
Now for teh towers,I must admit,I have not studied into building 7
But one thing to consider,that wasnt in any video I saw is this
The steel structures,nomatter how hard you try,will fatigue from the sodium in the air.Steel,galvaniz,zink,alum,even stainless steel will corode,that IMO should be considered when considering how the structure fialed.
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:roll:
One of the requirements of being a Klan member is proclaiming Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior. If that ain't a Christian, I don't know what is.
Do a simple google search for "christian terrorists" and you'll find plenty. Also remember the phrase "one mans freedom fighter is another mans terrorist".
Then you should.
No steel building has ever collapsed due to a fire before. Except the Twin Towers and Building 7. None have collapsed due to fire since.
You need to watch the videos that are longer than 5 minutes. All the short ones are the really crazy, extreme paranoia types.
Check this site out...it lists all the skyscraper and large building fires in recent history.
http://skyscraperdefense.com/disasters.html
This one burned for 2 days and did not fall.
http://skyscraperdefense.com/disasters.html
This one burned for 2 days and did not fall.
ClassicGMJunkie
Quarry Creeper
all three buildings look like top-down demo's to me.
I don't think the goverment had any thing to do with demoing any buildings. What they might be hiding is the fact they were relaxed and had that ( it can't happen here thing). Bin and his boy might have been able to go in those building and set some charges up for that day to be blown.
They sure tighted up things after that and are still on guard now.
They sure tighted up things after that and are still on guard now.
Different contractors, low bid isn't always your best bet. :ror:Check this site out...it lists all the skyscraper and large building fires in recent history.
http://skyscraperdefense.com/disasters.html
This one burned for 2 days and did not fall.
RCHuffer
Rock Crawler
just my 2 cents....
someone found a weakness in our government and military and showed it to the world. We in our lifetime will never know the truth.
Dude...take care of your family and Love your God... I've already racked my brain on this stuff and it got me no where ( well I take that back, I've stocked up on water, seeds and batteries just need to get a solar generator next ). Protect your family.
What till you research about H.A.R.R.P. now this is a WMD, but thats a whole nother thread.
someone found a weakness in our government and military and showed it to the world. We in our lifetime will never know the truth.
Dude...take care of your family and Love your God... I've already racked my brain on this stuff and it got me no where ( well I take that back, I've stocked up on water, seeds and batteries just need to get a solar generator next ). Protect your family.
What till you research about H.A.R.R.P. now this is a WMD, but thats a whole nother thread.
rock hard
dnf
:roll:
I have actually watched some 1+hr vids going over this and that
the deal with the planes is all BS"thumbsup"
rock hard
dnf
yeah,the hiccup id building 7
cuz its easy to say....well no building ever got hit with planes filled with fuel
They can't say that about 7
Here are some things that perplex me about the conspiracy theories.
1/ They keep talking about the melting point of steel.
Absolute bollox, in a highly stressed situation like support beams they do not HAVE to melt, even a very modest heat of just over 400c will be enough to reduce yield strength by up to 50%.
Anyone that has been anywhere near a house fire will tell you the heat is intense.
I have seen windows melted in houses 50 meters away from a relatively small shed fire.
When we had the forest fires here a few years back the fire was THAT intense it turned patches of the ground into glass.
We had concrete blocks literally exploding.
2/ They keep talking about "no other steel building collapsing from fire"
Were these building also nearly 40 years old and over 400 meters high?
No of course they weren't.
Were these burning steel buildings hit by the shock of a plane flying directly into them?
Again of course not.
Were these buildings severely weakened by a failed bomb blast?
Again of course not.
It's absolutely no use comparing apples with tennis balls.
All because a building is made of steel it does not mean it's any where near the same, or even similar in construction.
It's like comparing a 40 year old Fiat against a truck, all because they're made of similar materials it does not mean they are even similar.
I'm no doubt that the investigation has holes big enough to drive the Asian continent through.
There is also many many questions the report did not answer.
But when you think that the building was substantially bigger than any other similar type building that's burnt.
That it was 40 years old.
Already had a LOT of stress from the previous bombing
Had just received a tremendous shock through it's entire structure from a plane being flown into it.
Had lost a substantial outer section that was part of the stressed support.
Then it's hardly surprising it came done.
Building #7 has more unanswered questions for me.
But again i'm not surprised it came down, what with the fires and the shear volume of weight dumped on it when the towers collapsed it's hardly surprising.
Last thing that seals it for me is this.
There was absolutely no way-shape-or-form ANYONE could have gotten enough explosives, and/or thermite through the security system to level the buildings.
Never mind to actually place it and prime it in a building that was bustling 24 hours a day 7 days a week.
We are not talking about 1 day here, we are talking about weeks if not months of smuggling in explosives, shutting off key structural areas, planting the charges THEN somehow disguising them enough that the occupants, maintenance staff and security do not see them.
THEN you need to arrange the planes to crash in the exact floor, for that shock not to dislodge the charges or set them off.
To maintain a connection to every single cable (no way would wireless work with THAT many charges) then fire in the exact right order.
This from a terrorist organisation who's usual MO is to use a big bomb, not to plant explosive with surgical precision.
1/ They keep talking about the melting point of steel.
Absolute bollox, in a highly stressed situation like support beams they do not HAVE to melt, even a very modest heat of just over 400c will be enough to reduce yield strength by up to 50%.
Anyone that has been anywhere near a house fire will tell you the heat is intense.
I have seen windows melted in houses 50 meters away from a relatively small shed fire.
When we had the forest fires here a few years back the fire was THAT intense it turned patches of the ground into glass.
We had concrete blocks literally exploding.
2/ They keep talking about "no other steel building collapsing from fire"
Were these building also nearly 40 years old and over 400 meters high?
No of course they weren't.
Were these burning steel buildings hit by the shock of a plane flying directly into them?
Again of course not.
Were these buildings severely weakened by a failed bomb blast?
Again of course not.
It's absolutely no use comparing apples with tennis balls.
All because a building is made of steel it does not mean it's any where near the same, or even similar in construction.
It's like comparing a 40 year old Fiat against a truck, all because they're made of similar materials it does not mean they are even similar.
I'm no doubt that the investigation has holes big enough to drive the Asian continent through.
There is also many many questions the report did not answer.
But when you think that the building was substantially bigger than any other similar type building that's burnt.
That it was 40 years old.
Already had a LOT of stress from the previous bombing
Had just received a tremendous shock through it's entire structure from a plane being flown into it.
Had lost a substantial outer section that was part of the stressed support.
Then it's hardly surprising it came done.
Building #7 has more unanswered questions for me.
But again i'm not surprised it came down, what with the fires and the shear volume of weight dumped on it when the towers collapsed it's hardly surprising.
Last thing that seals it for me is this.
There was absolutely no way-shape-or-form ANYONE could have gotten enough explosives, and/or thermite through the security system to level the buildings.
Never mind to actually place it and prime it in a building that was bustling 24 hours a day 7 days a week.
We are not talking about 1 day here, we are talking about weeks if not months of smuggling in explosives, shutting off key structural areas, planting the charges THEN somehow disguising them enough that the occupants, maintenance staff and security do not see them.
THEN you need to arrange the planes to crash in the exact floor, for that shock not to dislodge the charges or set them off.
To maintain a connection to every single cable (no way would wireless work with THAT many charges) then fire in the exact right order.
This from a terrorist organisation who's usual MO is to use a big bomb, not to plant explosive with surgical precision.
rock hard
dnf
This vid makes a lot of sense to me,the key being expansion,lack of proper fireproofing,and how the outer structure fell in opposition to a controlled demo.
the tower 7 had the same type of fireproofing,and the fire within the building was left unchecked......
good watch,and read non the less
http://www.debunking911.com/links.htm
the tower 7 had the same type of fireproofing,and the fire within the building was left unchecked......
good watch,and read non the less
http://www.debunking911.com/links.htm
Now thats funny. :ror:
How is it bs?
The Empire State building got hit by a bomber. Caught on fire too.
True.
It makes it difficult because nothing like that has ever happened before. Not to mention that the largest building ever imploded was only 23 stories tall.
It was struck and damaged, but I don't recall large amounts of debris resting on it.
Reading up on building 7 today I found that it was actually engineered and constructed to support the weight of a larger building, should the tenants decide to add height to it.
It was reported that in the weeks leading up to 9/11, random and unexpected fire and security drills were held, with several areas having restricted access or locked down entirely. There were also rotating 12 hours security shifts that ended a day or two before 9/11.
Thats kind of the kicker, and ties in with the Pentagon as well. You need to be one hell of a pilot to hit a building in that large of a plane traveling that fast. At speed, the towers wouldn't even be in visual range except for maybe less than a minute before impact. A 757 isn't a sports car, you can't make wild or fast course corrections in them. You also can't reprogram the nav computers mid-flight. If you aren't already nearly perfectly on course, its doubtful you'd hit anything.
Actually, they were fighting the fires in 7. Oddly, the fire suppressant systems in the building were not automatic, meaning someone had to pull the alarm by hand. I say oddly because just a few years before the attack a large portion of the building was renovated to house an investment firm, which included removing some of the floors to open the space up. Hard to believe they'd spend all that money and not update the emergency systems.
rock hard
dnf
I explained in previous posts already why I feel the plane theories are bs
The empire state building is not the world towers,the construction used it not the same
The fire proofing used on the colums in not the same''
Like c/6 said....your comparing apples to lemons
or in this case,since I feel quality of design,workmanship and materials was better in the past.
Its like comparing a 55 chevy to a new one...good luck getting lucky on the hood of a new chevy without body damage
The empire state building is not the world towers,the construction used it not the same
The fire proofing used on the colums in not the same''
Like c/6 said....your comparing apples to lemons
or in this case,since I feel quality of design,workmanship and materials was better in the past.
Its like comparing a 55 chevy to a new one...good luck getting lucky on the hood of a new chevy without body damage
I don't agree with those vids either, they're waaaaay too kooky. I'm surprised you didn't mention anything about holograms. :ror:
Agreed, its not. One would think the TT's would be build better, knowing that there is the very real chance that they might get crashed into.
They planes were also different...the B-25 has about half the wingspan and about a 6th of the fuel load. AV gas doesn't burn as hot as jet fuel either. A 757 carries about 13,000 gallons.
rock hard
dnf
security worries that the towers would be hit by plane started after the 94 bombing.....and it was decided then that hitting the towers would not be difficult by an airliner.............the pentagon is a large target aswell.
just looked at empire construction to varify...
each floor supports the next,inner columns and outer,this makes for a very strong structure,similar to the design of most multi level parking garages.
The towers dod NOT share this design,the floors was CLEAR SPANED
from center to outer......nothing supporting in between.
this is a much weaker design in comparison.....
And as the heat forced expansion,there was saying in the middle,creating an effect siulare to that of a demo.....the center failed,and it dropped there was noting holding the outer colums
This is all explained in the link I provided,it is also the same conclusions
popular mechanics came up with
sorry duuude,the government isn't evil,the big business man isn't evil
The christians aren't evil,its just a bad dream,and hopefully one day you will wake up from it.
but not till you stop watching bill meir
just looked at empire construction to varify...
each floor supports the next,inner columns and outer,this makes for a very strong structure,similar to the design of most multi level parking garages.
The towers dod NOT share this design,the floors was CLEAR SPANED
from center to outer......nothing supporting in between.
this is a much weaker design in comparison.....
And as the heat forced expansion,there was saying in the middle,creating an effect siulare to that of a demo.....the center failed,and it dropped there was noting holding the outer colums
This is all explained in the link I provided,it is also the same conclusions
popular mechanics came up with
sorry duuude,the government isn't evil,the big business man isn't evil
The christians aren't evil,its just a bad dream,and hopefully one day you will wake up from it.
but not till you stop watching bill meir
Then why did they stop all of the crazy security sweeps and pull all the bomb sniffing dogs out just a few days before the attacks? It seems to me that if they DID know something was going to happen (and the government did) they would keep them in place or even ramp them up.
sorry duuude,the government isn't evil,the big business man isn't evil
The christians aren't evil,its just a bad dream,and hopefully one day you will wake up from it.
but not till you stop watching bill meir
The government may not be evil as a whole, but some parts most certainly are.
Read this...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Jewels_%28Central_Intelligence_Agency%29
...and this...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods
...and this...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident
Same goes for big business. And religion.
I haven't seen Bill Maher in months. I barely watch tv.
