hatefulboy
Rock Crawler
Unless you have wider than 450 hubs I don't think it will be a problem for you.
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Scale Rules/Scoring/Judging/Teams discussion
- Thread starter cykb4117
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smokinloon
Pebble Pounder
Im just looking for some clarification here but lets say there is a bad gate that I cant clear with the creepy crawly but i can "baja" through it cleanly with a gurrenteed major rollover at the end, I can just HOG it back on course and still have a cleared gate right?
2003EDGE
Rock Crawler
I think with the hog they split the gate. Rear wheels behind the gate and front through. May be wrong though.
I think it would be a cleared gate, but you would be repositioned back to the last gate cleared with the rear axle aligned with the gate. If it is a team course, your partner can pull or push you threw the gate or roll you back over without penalty.
2003EDGE
Rock Crawler
Ok, I have a question. If in a team event, one vehicle has a failure to where they can't go any further. Can the other vehicle finish the course? The DNF due to a failure on my teammate's rig killed my score! Still managed to drag him through a few more gates but still.
I was seeing that on a lot of the score sheets. I think we should allow the 1 min-ish repair/10 + points and if they cant fix it the other member should carry on!
M_ENERGY
Rock Crawler
That happend to Jon and Jeremy lol first gate jons died and jeremy was stuck there as well....talk about a bummer!! Luckily Jon fixed it and returned to carry on.
I just got finished reading the 2014 rules on the SORCCA website. Now I am wondering how strict we plan to be on the class 3 rule for custom hard body resembling a 1:1 vehicle. If we are going to follow the rule I may need to rethink the body for my current build. Here is what the body looks like so far.
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Rules...geez. Seems like ya'll need to back off on the rules on the local level and just have fun! Worry about the rules when you plan a trip to drive out of state for a G6 and are paying entry fees and competing against other drivers that you don't see on a regular basis!
Again I'm not a scale guy, but to explain why I'm saying what I am I'll tell you this...in years past I got wrapped up in the competitive nature of comp crawling and I would work myself up leading up to a comp and then if I didn't do as well as I'd hope I'd beat myself up over it. The fun was all but gone. This year I've taken several steps back and realized that if I'm not having a good time driving my trucks on the rocks there's no reason to be doing this anymore. I know I enjoy driving my trucks, but if I can't participate in a comp without the anxiety and such it's not worth it.
Comp crawlers are quite a bit different as far as the rules go...they need to be strict or else you can really let things get out of hand, but the scalers have so many attributes to them that I really think ya'll should focus more so on the intent of the rules than the exact written meaning. As long as each class of rig adheres to the overall sizes included in the rules such as tire size, wheelbase, etc. who cares what it looks like. I see a lot of builds here on RCC where people have designed there own vehicle that doesn't resemble any production vehicles and they look...and function...very well.
Just my .02...
Again I'm not a scale guy, but to explain why I'm saying what I am I'll tell you this...in years past I got wrapped up in the competitive nature of comp crawling and I would work myself up leading up to a comp and then if I didn't do as well as I'd hope I'd beat myself up over it. The fun was all but gone. This year I've taken several steps back and realized that if I'm not having a good time driving my trucks on the rocks there's no reason to be doing this anymore. I know I enjoy driving my trucks, but if I can't participate in a comp without the anxiety and such it's not worth it.
Comp crawlers are quite a bit different as far as the rules go...they need to be strict or else you can really let things get out of hand, but the scalers have so many attributes to them that I really think ya'll should focus more so on the intent of the rules than the exact written meaning. As long as each class of rig adheres to the overall sizes included in the rules such as tire size, wheelbase, etc. who cares what it looks like. I see a lot of builds here on RCC where people have designed there own vehicle that doesn't resemble any production vehicles and they look...and function...very well.
Just my .02...
cykb4117
Rock Stacker
I just got finished reading the 2014 rules on the SORCCA website. Now I am wondering how strict we plan to be on the class 3 rule for custom hard body resembling a 1:1 vehicle. If we are going to follow the rule I may need to rethink the body for my current build. Here is what the body looks like so far.
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Looks like a mog-ish vehicle to me.
We allow many vehicles that do not fit the class specs, but we let them run anyway. It would probably be comparable to someone running a 14 inch wb but not a 7 inch tire in 2.2 pro. I might be a little off on my reference but you get the idea.
I'm not entirely sure we need this thread. It seems like most of the events here have been going off the sorrca rules anyway. I could edit the first couple of posts and delete the rules portion. Let me know what you guys think.
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smokinloon
Pebble Pounder
I thought c3 was a "whatever" class anyway....
slim_chance
Quarry Creeper
Quick question on c1 bodies. The rules state the bed must be the same width of the cab the full length of the bed. So does that disqualify a flare side like the Blackfoot body? Since they narrow naturally after the rear wheels even though it mimics a true stock truck. Might be a dumb question but im working on one that I was planning for a c1 rig.
2003EDGE
Rock Crawler
Thurayt, I would say that you would be C3 with that rig. The body is well, mogish/truckish. A wraith is just some lexan scraps for the most part lol.
IttyBitty...for sake of not arguing, whatever. We take our comps just as serious as the comp crawlers do. Just my .02
Slim, this came up at the past comp. A honcho got bumped to C2 due to the tube bed kicking in at the back. That is a sticky one. May need to open this one up for discussion.
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IttyBitty...for sake of not arguing, whatever. We take our comps just as serious as the comp crawlers do. Just my .02
Slim, this came up at the past comp. A honcho got bumped to C2 due to the tube bed kicking in at the back. That is a sticky one. May need to open this one up for discussion.
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skerb
Rock Crawler
The honcho bed came up again in the sorrca rules and they said a dovetail had to start at the back of the cab. So the small notches missing on a honcho bed are I fact class 1 legal if it has a rear bumper. The Blackfoot should be fine as well.
skerb
Rock Crawler
Not quite, the body and siE rules are there for a reason, otherwise someone could just throw a lexan body on a 2.2s rig in class 3.
skerb
Rock Crawler
Is the body as wide as the inside of the tires? Those are. 1.9s right? You could probably make that a class 2 with some finishing work.
skerb
Rock Crawler
Ryan, we build these vehicles, many are very custom , and we build them to a set of regulations that keeps us all on a similar playing field. That is one of the aspects that make it fun is knowing everyone you are competing with is in the same class as you. I find it funny that you feel like we are too strict on rules yet in the scrcc scaler comp you are having in March you plan to count reverse points. Nobody I have seen has been super worked up about anything at our comps, it's really laid back and fun. But we have rules for a reason, and this thread is for people to ask questions about them so it's not a surprise at the comp.
