johnnyh66
Scale Detail Engineering
Yup, gang violence.
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Questions for Gun Control Advocates
- Thread starter The Violator
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Yup, gang violence.
dezfan
I wanna be Dave
#MillennialHipsterlivesmatter
Fuk the Muslims. As far as gun control goes, I carry one of mine every where I go all the time. I laugh when I walk thru front doors of buildings and factories with the no gun stickers on them. And yes fuk Osama, blaming it on guns instead of terrorist.
dezfan
I wanna be Dave
But, Chicago has stringent gun laws?
How is this possible?
Don't those gang bangers see the gun free zone signs?
But, as long as it's black on black violence, we can ignore it and we can act like it doesn't matter.
Liberal logic.
You can't help Chicago with gun control, they need parent control. There are no morals or value and no parents raising these gang bangers.
beachbum
Coral Crawler
Here's my long winded thought lol.
The second amendment is there for self protection and to prevent our government or any foreign body/government force from taking our control of our government/country away from us the people. It gives us, the individual citizen, the ability to aid in defense of our country along with our military/militia from outside forces but first and foremost as the forefathers intended and where most concerned in preventing, was giving the people the ability via this right to stop our own government from becoming too big/expansive and beyond the control of it's citizens.
If the government grows to the point of the suppression and repression of the rights granted to the people by the Constitution/Bill of Rights and cannot be regained through the originally set up processes of checks and balances they put in place, then the people will have the ability to stand up and return control to the people as intended. The citizens will have the means to dismantle and return an oppressive out of control government to it's originally intended form, in the hands of the citizens.
For the younger tech generation, the government would liken to a home computer, and the second amendment is the "Go Back" option/tool when you have to reset things to an earlier saved point in order to fix an issue lol.
Like serving on Jury Duty, our founders didn't care if you like it or not (guns/2nd amendment ), or even care if you want it or not and vow to never have possession or be in the presence of a firearm. They intended to put in place a nonnegotiable/nonrevokable means for the citizens on both sides of the gun issue fence to utilize if ever needed. The weapons available to the citizens should be advantageous to the times and powers of an out of control government or invading force. I'm not saying RPG's and full auto M60's under everyone's bed lol, but not single shot/semiauto/no or low magazine hunting rifles for just sport or hunting, for the few that hunt for sustenance. Some try to spin it as intended for hunting because of their time (founding of the country) which is complete brainwashed bs.
The founders knew that government tends to enact laws and regulations over time, that allow it to gain power and control of its population under the guise of protection and prevention. This guise of protection and prevention is what is being used to chip at and eventually try to suspend the second amendment. California, with some of the most restrictive gun regulations in country was unable to prevent a nut job from doing what was done. Would as much life have been lost if a legally armed citizen had been present? If a neighbor had reported suspicious behavior instead of remaining silent from fear of being politically incorrect or race/religious profiling in the climate we now live in? Who knows. I do know however like it or not the second amendment is there for a reason and must remain their for the survival of our freedoms and intended way of government.
History has shown over and over the birth and death of democracy and freedom under the heel of an oppressive governing body and the only thing standing in its way or in its wake is the people and their ability to defend their freedoms. There will always be evil and the only way to at least keep it in the shadows is to be able to fend against it. Laws neither control evil or prevent evil only control those who are not, and their ability to defeat it.
The second amendment is there for self protection and to prevent our government or any foreign body/government force from taking our control of our government/country away from us the people. It gives us, the individual citizen, the ability to aid in defense of our country along with our military/militia from outside forces but first and foremost as the forefathers intended and where most concerned in preventing, was giving the people the ability via this right to stop our own government from becoming too big/expansive and beyond the control of it's citizens.
If the government grows to the point of the suppression and repression of the rights granted to the people by the Constitution/Bill of Rights and cannot be regained through the originally set up processes of checks and balances they put in place, then the people will have the ability to stand up and return control to the people as intended. The citizens will have the means to dismantle and return an oppressive out of control government to it's originally intended form, in the hands of the citizens.
For the younger tech generation, the government would liken to a home computer, and the second amendment is the "Go Back" option/tool when you have to reset things to an earlier saved point in order to fix an issue lol.
Like serving on Jury Duty, our founders didn't care if you like it or not (guns/2nd amendment ), or even care if you want it or not and vow to never have possession or be in the presence of a firearm. They intended to put in place a nonnegotiable/nonrevokable means for the citizens on both sides of the gun issue fence to utilize if ever needed. The weapons available to the citizens should be advantageous to the times and powers of an out of control government or invading force. I'm not saying RPG's and full auto M60's under everyone's bed lol, but not single shot/semiauto/no or low magazine hunting rifles for just sport or hunting, for the few that hunt for sustenance. Some try to spin it as intended for hunting because of their time (founding of the country) which is complete brainwashed bs.
The founders knew that government tends to enact laws and regulations over time, that allow it to gain power and control of its population under the guise of protection and prevention. This guise of protection and prevention is what is being used to chip at and eventually try to suspend the second amendment. California, with some of the most restrictive gun regulations in country was unable to prevent a nut job from doing what was done. Would as much life have been lost if a legally armed citizen had been present? If a neighbor had reported suspicious behavior instead of remaining silent from fear of being politically incorrect or race/religious profiling in the climate we now live in? Who knows. I do know however like it or not the second amendment is there for a reason and must remain their for the survival of our freedoms and intended way of government.
History has shown over and over the birth and death of democracy and freedom under the heel of an oppressive governing body and the only thing standing in its way or in its wake is the people and their ability to defend their freedoms. There will always be evil and the only way to at least keep it in the shadows is to be able to fend against it. Laws neither control evil or prevent evil only control those who are not, and their ability to defeat it.
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Highmark
I wanna be Dave
Does it matter? I mean I'm assuming you're implying that crazy fundamentalist Christians are somehow better that crazy fundamentalist Muslims. Have you heard of the dark ages? Spanish inquisition? The crusades?
So answer - neither. I'd rather live in ****ing Canada where I can watch a movie without some crazy ****er trying to kill me because his god told him I wasn't chill with what he believes in.
dezfan
I wanna be Dave
The crusades really?
Why is it every time secularist talk about "extremist" Christians, they mention the crusades?
Surely you're aware that the crusades where a response to 400+ years of Muslim aggression, right?
Couldn't maybe find a more recent and viable example?
Highmark
I wanna be Dave
Listed two more in the same paragraph you quoted. Besides that, justify the Childrens Crusade, just try.
Listen, I'm a baptist, I don't dislike Christians, but I do dislike when people use my religion to justify doing shitty things.
beachbum
Coral Crawler
The universe, reality in general is based on extremes/opposites light and dark, chaos and calm, creation and destruction, life and death. Humanity sadly will never reach that "Everyone hugging in harmony cumby ya" state of utopian existence so many are brainwashed into believing is possible. Life itself dictates against that. There will ALWAYS be evil people as well as the opposing good. No way around it. We have to accept that and accept the fact that we have to stand against it (with the ability to do so) and also accept some will be unable to and must be carried by those who do.
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dezfan
I wanna be Dave
A BAPTIST! :shock:
Well! That explains everything!
You know how "those" people are. :ror:
I agree with your sentament. But seeing people use the crusades as an equal to the evil being perpetrated around the world in the name of allah drives be bonkers.
RANOVRU
Quarry Creeper
Why does there need to be a recent example, or any actual historical example. The Santa that christians believe in caused more dying in the old testament than any group or person in history. This is part of the story that christians base their beliefs off of, the actual being that it's all based around.
As for the guns I'm very pro. But I suspect that won't matter in the next 5-10.
lead lobber
Quarry Creeper
If you will STFU, can I help you pack?
BDR
Quarry Creeper
I feel for you lot, being so scared you have to carry a gun around to feel safe, and the constant feeling of needing to protect your self:lmao:
If the constant mass shootings don't change your views, dunno what will :shock:
If the constant mass shootings don't change your views, dunno what will :shock:
HahnsB2
Quarry Creeper
Crazy people seeking attention.
Mass shootings are no more common than they've ever been. The number goes up and down each year. Violent crime and murder as a whole has been on a steady decline since the early 90s despite the fear mongering rhetoric. People not dying doesn't make for exciting news.
:roll:
The time to ban guns has LONG since passed. There are literally more guns than people in the US, the idea you'll keep them out of the hands of anybody who wants one is pure fantasy. You can't even keep a few AKs away from nutjobs in France FFS.
The ultimate responsibility of protecting yourself is yours. Don't count on laws or anyone else to do it for you.
mattehmer01
Rock Stacker
So true. Look at the attacks at Paris... Guns are banned their and Cali has the strictest gun laws in merica. More laws or even banning guns won't fix the issue. If someone is insane enough to shoot somebody, they won't care about laws at all. GUNS DONT KILL PEOPLE, ITS THE PERSON BEHIND IT PULLING THE TRIGGER
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mattehmer01
Rock Stacker
RANOVRU
Quarry Creeper
That's not technically true. Guns are an actual object that can kill people, but assigning blame to an inanimate object is pretty silly right?
Anti gun folks don't like the "anything other than guns can kill people too" argument, but that's because they're retarded. Really, I mean they have a mental defect much like religious people. Anyway guns are just like a lot of other inanimate objects that can, have been and are used to kill people, a tool.
Logically if we banned guns or even regulated them more, we'd ultimately have to do the same to many other things most would find idiotic.
Regulation in moderation along with worthwhile consideration.
Anti gun folks don't like the "anything other than guns can kill people too" argument, but that's because they're retarded. Really, I mean they have a mental defect much like religious people. Anyway guns are just like a lot of other inanimate objects that can, have been and are used to kill people, a tool.
Logically if we banned guns or even regulated them more, we'd ultimately have to do the same to many other things most would find idiotic.
Regulation in moderation along with worthwhile consideration.
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