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2013 Rules
- Thread starter Fishmaxx
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ROWDY RACING
I wanna be Dave
Sweet, I love cartoons. "thumbsup"
krawlfreak
I wanna be Dave
i can see both sides of this particuliar( NABIL"S) instance, but NOT ERIK"S VIDEO.
a few words in rule 1.10 would nix this whole situation and could squaush this for good.
ROWDY RACING
I wanna be Dave
I cannot see either instance, but if more wording is needed to make it clearer then so be it. "thumbsup"
krawlfreak
I wanna be Dave
i am all for making it an illegal move either way. i think it is a serious violation of intent.
ROWDY RACING
I wanna be Dave
I think it's a serious violation of the rules. :lmao:
In this animation the crawler approaches the course and then hits a "bump" that causes it to land perpendicular to the gates. The driver must then reverse the rear to pull it back through the gate (wrong direction)...and then drive the truck through the gate to gain progress. Hopefully this depicts what my first animation does, but just in another way...
krawlfreak
I wanna be Dave
In this animation the crawler approaches the course and then hits a "bump" that causes it to land perpendicular to the gates. The driver must then reverse the rear to pull it back through the gate (wrong direction)...and then drive the truck through the gate to gain progress. Hopefully this depicts what my first animation does, but just in another way...
after hitting the bump the rear tire enterd in the right direction (during the turning of it) leaving this to not add to the arguement...
ROWDY RACING
I wanna be Dave
In this animation the crawler approaches the course and then hits a "bump" that causes it to land perpendicular to the gates. The driver must then reverse the rear to pull it back through the gate (wrong direction)...and then drive the truck through the gate to gain progress. Hopefully this depicts what my first animation does, but just in another way...
Legal, but irrelevant.
krawlfreak
I wanna be Dave
take your same video and make the truck centerline go over one of the gates effectively having the rear tires not enter the gate in the right direction,
now here is the area i think we are discussing.
is it o.k to reposition on the gate by driving out of it, even if your rear tires are going to enter the gate in the wrong direction.
that is what i"m gathering.
this is what rules committee is looking at.
i dont think new rules need to be written.
just a ruling on if that is legal or not legal.
ROWDY RACING
I wanna be Dave
Not legal.
That's what I was trying to make happen in my head, but it didn't make it to reality quite right. :roll:
krawlfreak
I wanna be Dave
agreed. that would cover this whole discusion brought to us by erik.
i kinda figured.
Since you're all here, answer another one. :ror: At a comp this morning a car hit a marker for a later gate, not the one he was heading for. 10 points.
Question was, is it an entry penalty because you can't very well hit a marker without it also being an out of sequence entry (in order to get close enough to hit the marker)...or is it just a gate penalty? Differences are the out of sequence involves repo and the gate penalty kills that marker when he later gets to that gate in the sequence.
Question was, is it an entry penalty because you can't very well hit a marker without it also being an out of sequence entry (in order to get close enough to hit the marker)...or is it just a gate penalty? Differences are the out of sequence involves repo and the gate penalty kills that marker when he later gets to that gate in the sequence.
JeremyH
I wanna be Dave
Yessir, every Tuesday. We're a group of retired engineers off the local navy R&D base. Crawlers are the perfect toys for retired (and unretired) mechanical engineers.
Winner picks lunch.
JeremyH
I wanna be Dave
Ahh...gotcha.
Personally, and I'm just saying what I'd call as a judge, I would say that is a gate penalty and move on. It is possible to touch the outside of a gate and not be, what I'd call, "entering" the gate.
Personally, and I'm just saying what I'd call as a judge, I would say that is a gate penalty and move on. It is possible to touch the outside of a gate and not be, what I'd call, "entering" the gate.
That was our call too. But you could make a case for the other.
You CAN hit a gate and not enter the gate. The area BETWEEN the markers is the gate...that's why we measure the 16" between the markers...not from center to center of them.
If the driver in question hit the gate, and drove between the markers then you could and should penalize him for the gate and out of sequence.
If the driver in question hit the gate, and drove between the markers then you could and should penalize him for the gate and out of sequence.
