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axial ae2 esc 3s does it really work? longterm ?

I'm not sure who Harley is, might you be able to find said thread and link me?

I'm torn on whether or not to wire it straight to the servo, or into the Rx. Either way the Rx would only be getting 5v from the ESC or 7.2v max (if I set it to that later, but would probably set it lower initially as indicated above) from the CC bec. The ESC regardless will get the full brunt of a 3s battery. Hmm.
Harley is best known for being the site Futaba Guru (he has done Futaba radio specific threads with all sorts of programming/info) as well as helping out with electronics questions.

As to direct from the BEC to RX vs. servo, I prefer direct to the servo. I feel it's easier to do and removes questions of "can my RX handle more than stock volts".
The only thing extra you "may" need to do is to connect a ground from the BEC to the RX. This is mostly for Spektrum radios or anytime you get glitches when running the BEC direct to the servo.
 
You can run a 3s on the AE-2. But you need to add a BEC. I have been running mine on a 19t double, 14t pinion. with a 5400mah 3s. get about 2-3 hours run time on the trail. good torque and good speed.

This is on axials site.
Axial Racing - Axial AE-2 ESC Set-up and Programming
**You can run higher voltage batteries such as a 7 cell NiCad/NiMH or 3 cell lipo with the installation of a “Castle BEC”
 
I was running an AE-2 with a 3s 2650mah Li-Po with a castle creation bec for the servo and radio. After my second run with this setup, my AE-2 went up in a giant cloud of whitesmoke. Whatever happened, happened on the circuit board because the case is melted around the middle of the underside of the heatsink.
 
I was curious about this because I want to run 3S thru the ae-2 .

That's how I got JUNKFOOT set up. 3S/1300m, 16/87, AE-2, 30t Intensity, CC BEC direct to servo. Runs fine.

I have my bec wired just the way the diagram shows.

Which diagram?

It comes off the esc plug into the receiver. But it does not regulate power going to ESC it regulates power going to the receiver,

Huh? If I'm understanding you, that's the same way I have my CUCV set up. That one's a Micro Sidewinder/Holmes 35t, 14/87, but still runs fine on 3S.

..... so how does this protect your ESC from 3S?

The AE-2 has a small BEC built into it, and will take voltage off the main battery pack and feed the receiver. The servo takes what it needs from the receiver. As you start putting servos in that draw more power, the receiver starts asking for more power, and the small built-in BEC in the ESC becomes overloaded. When it just can't put out enough power, the voltage going into the receiver drops, and when it gets low enough, the receiver stops working (aka 'browns out'). As you step up to 7+ cell NiXx packs, or 3S LiPo, the built-in BEC just gets absolutely obliterated much quicker. I, personally, don't like overheating built-ins as I think they can take out other control areas in the ESC just by being in proximity to an overheating component.

When you choose to power your receiver and servo with an external BEC, you would plug the BEC into an open slot on the receiver, AND you're supposed to remove the small red wire from the ESC/receiver connector. Once you remove that red wire, the internal BEC no longer has a complete circuit, and is electrically isolated, and cannot overheat. If you leave that red wire in the connector, then both the external and internal BECs are trying to feed in power. Yay! Extra power! Right? Uh, no. Once the internal BEC feeds power in, the external BEC senses power already on the circuit, switches off, and you're back to square one.

If you connect your external BEC to power only the servo, then the receiver would not have power, and you'd need to leave the small red wire in the ESC/receiver connector. From what I can find, receivers, by themselves, typically only draw 1/4 to 1/2 an amp. And with no moving parts in them, there's nothing to 'stall-out' and spike the amp draw. So even the sketchiest of internal BECs should be able to handle that. LEDs are also pretty constant, so those I'd likely trust to an internal BEC. People do run their winches off the internal, but if I had an external BEC for the steering anyway, I'd throw the winch on the external, too.






Or is there a way to wire it so that your controlling voltage directly to the ESC?

No, typically. Once the power comes out of the battery and enters the ESC, electrons flow through the internal BEC, and come out on the red wire to the receiver. At that point, the voltage is as 'regulated' as the internal BEC is going to get it. Can you connect your external BEC between the ESC and receiver? Yes, but that doesn't fix the fact that the internal BEC is still going to overload trying to deliver the amps a servo's going to need. The weak link is still in there. Only other way I'm aware of for reducing the voltage after the internal BEC is to reduce battery voltage back down to 2S. Which doesn't really fix the 'how to run on 3S' thing.

If you get a chance, post up a link, so we can see which diagram you're trying to follow for hookin' up your stuff.









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I followed the diagram that comes in the package with the castle BEC

everything you said helped me understand. thank you.
I do want to plug in a vanquish light bar and that's the main reason I want to run 3s plus a little added speed is nice.At this point I think I can plug it directly into the 4th port on my stock Rx and be good to go.
 
At this point I think I can plug it directly into the 4th port on my stock Rx and be good to go.

Yep, that's how my CUCV is, BEC feeds into the receiver, servo and LEDs take from the receiver, and my internal BEC's disconnnected/does nothing. Works fine.
I think you should have no problems doing it that way.









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I have run 3s on this esc with zero issues using a bec and a tekin handwound 35t.works great and I epoxydipped it so its waterproof too...ghetto crawlmaster esc I call it,no higher than 3s tho however I have heard of doing 4s if setup properly yikes=smoke
 
I made one of these setups using a Castle BEC and a MMP to run 3s

On My AE-2's running 2s, I got the Hey Ok Performance No Brainer BEC's and have no problems

I haven't fully switched over to 3s yet, only in one build so far.

I found the drawing on here and its not my work, I also found the No Brainer BEC's on here too,

I had a simple Futaba Y cable and the Deans connectors and some shrink tubing in R/C parts stash.

this setup makes the Castle BEC plug and play so you can use it on more than one R/C.

the No Brainer BEC is plug and play and the red wire is cut in the plug going to the receiver and comes that way.
 
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Would there be a turn limit on running an AE2 on 3s? Been thinking about trying to get an Ascender and would like to use one of these on 3s before having to buy a 3s specific ESC since I already have an unused one, but also want to run a Traxxas 21t in it (I'd prefer another Trinity Monster Maxx 21t like I'm running in my SCX10 and Telluride, but can't get any more of them through work). I'd probably try to run two 2200-2750mAh 25c-30c 3s packs in parallel to get as much run time as possible from it.
 
I've been using mine with 4s LiFe packs and 35t motors for a year now.

They get glitchy if I don't run a BEC. Otherwise they're fine.
 
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