THE CRAWLER KING
Rock Crawler
I think I know what you are talking about. You mean like when they soldr deans to a battery the black stuff that is on he dean connector itself?
Looking forward to those pictures."thumbsup"
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Best winch cable
- Thread starter Jus
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I think I know what you are talking about. You mean like when they soldr deans to a battery the black stuff that is on he dean connector itself?
Looking forward to those pictures."thumbsup"
War Pig
I wanna be Dave
Tufline XP, the dark green 80lb stuff has worked the best for me.
It's lasted almost a year without a break, and it's cheap too, just bought 30 yards for $7.
It's lasted almost a year without a break, and it's cheap too, just bought 30 yards for $7.
TattooKenny
Who's your Daddy-0!
That is just stink wrap you see over it. I'm talking about a stainless ball that has a set screw recessed into it that you can't see when it's screwed in. And a crimp behind that for extra protection.
Tommy R
I wanna be Dave
Kenny, do you know what that 1 kind of Beadalon is? I'm in the market for some winch line! And if you have any info on those micro ball ends, I'd like to hear about that, too!
monkeyracer
I wanna be Dave
Kenny, do you know what that 1 kind of Beadalon is? I'm in the market for some winch line! And if you have any info on those micro ball ends, I'd like to hear about that, too!
+1 :ror:
I'm using spiderwire 50lb test stealth braid, and it works great but I've had some breaks with my 9lb vehicle, so I want something even stronger. Interested to hear about which Beadalon is the right one, since there are a lot of varieties of it.
Tommy R
I wanna be Dave
FWIW, today I passed by a real manly type fabric store. Um......yeah. Anyway, I picked up some Beadalon 49 strand line. It's the .46mm (.018") thickness and is nylon coated stainless strand, if I recall. It didn't list a total weight capacity or anything, but it dead lifted my 10+ lb. rig without wimpering. I also used some crimps they sell and even those held great. It wasn't cheap: $20 for 10' of it, but it looks pretty close to steel cable. The flexibility seems pretty good and it spooled in/out nicely. So far, I think it might be a good option...
team3six
www.team3sixrc.com
They do sell Kevlar strand on ebay. Beat that!
Tommy R
I wanna be Dave
Yeah, but then I wouldn't have the awkward feeling of walking through a girly store trying to act as masculine as possible so no one gets the wrong idea. You can't put a price on that!!
monkeyracer
I wanna be Dave
You did just go into a beading/crafting store and get beading supplies for your toy truck... that's very... manly... :lmao:
Ah, who am I kidding, I will probably do that too in the next few days. I'll have to bring the GF along so it looks like she's dragging me there, rather than the other way around.
Ah, who am I kidding, I will probably do that too in the next few days. I'll have to bring the GF along so it looks like she's dragging me there, rather than the other way around.
Tommy R
I wanna be Dave
Yeah, maybe next time I'll walk in there drinking whiskey and punching a baby seal in the neck so the ladies there don't get the wrong impression. :lmao:
Or I could just order online next time. :mrgreen:
Or I could just order online next time. :mrgreen:
fa1rch1ld
RCC Addict
Is there a recommended servo for rig weights that I could be enlightened on?
Thanks....
Thanks....
Tommy R
I wanna be Dave
I don't know, but what I can tell you is I'm using a Hitec HS-645MG which puts out 133 in-oz of torque at 6V and it seems to lift my 10+ lb. truck without straining much. I can hear it bog down a bit, but I can't tell if it actually slows down. Time will tell if it holds up, but it seems to be a pretty popular servo to modify for winch service. YMMV, FWIW, etc...
monkeyracer
I wanna be Dave
Not that this is the thread for that, but here's the general rule of thumb for figuring out if the servo will work:
1. Find out the oz-in torque rating that your winch does at the voltage your run. For example HS-645MG is 133 oz-in at 6.0V. I understand this rating means with a servo horn 1" long, it will move at most 133 oz of weight before the motor stalls out.
2. Convert oz to lbs, remember that there are 16oz in 1lb, so the HS-645 would have 8.3125 lbs of pulling force @ 1" from the center of the servo horn.
3. Determine your winch spool radius - for this, spool up the winch with as much winch line as you might need, then measure how far away from center this is. For example, my winch spool radius is 1/2".
4. This step might lose a few people, but makes the math work out. Multiply the Pulling force at 1" by the reciprocal of the spool radius. (Reciprocal means to flip the fraction, so 3/8 reciprocal is 8/3...) For example: 8.3125lbs x 2/1 is 16.625 lbs of force at 1/2"
5. As a winch spools out, the torque actually increases and linear speed decreases so, the above number is the minimum torque that your vehicle has. As long as this number is about 125% of the weight of your rig, you should be fine for anything where your wheels aren't wedged in anything.
The reason we are looking for the strongest (most scale) winch line is that even with a 10lb rig, and only 20lb servo torque, there are times when the wheels are wedged, or stuck in mud, or the vehicle slips back and tugs on the line, or the most common event; the winch line abrades and creates a weak point.
Hope the above helps a few people understand how to pick a servo for winch duty or not.
fa1rch1ld
RCC Addict
Thanks for the knowledge....
team3six
www.team3sixrc.com
You mis understood me bro.
Kevlar line. You wont break this. the winch would fail before the line would.
http://cgi.ebay.com/150-feet-45m-40...995?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f0475c26b
Well I found some winch line that looked promising at my local gunshop. Ice fishing line. Very abrasion resistant and very strong. Also dirt cheap.
I was content with it, but the red looks a bit funny so I was still on the lookout for something else to catch my eye.
Then a couple weeks ago I was shopping with my wife and there was a Michaels arts and crafts store.. Thats when the light bulb over my head went off. :shock: So it wasn't hard to get my wife to go in there.. After some looking I found that Beadalon stuff.. 49 strand and it's the thickest line, I think it was .024". It spools up nicely and looks fantastic. I used three silver crimp rings and they have held on so far.
Truck now has a CC Bec installed so the 645MG servo has a little more grunt. Can't wait to really test it out. Of course with those tires I won't get stuck often. :lmao:
I was content with it, but the red looks a bit funny so I was still on the lookout for something else to catch my eye.
Then a couple weeks ago I was shopping with my wife and there was a Michaels arts and crafts store.. Thats when the light bulb over my head went off. :shock: So it wasn't hard to get my wife to go in there.. After some looking I found that Beadalon stuff.. 49 strand and it's the thickest line, I think it was .024". It spools up nicely and looks fantastic. I used three silver crimp rings and they have held on so far.
Truck now has a CC Bec installed so the 645MG servo has a little more grunt. Can't wait to really test it out. Of course with those tires I won't get stuck often.
:lmao:
I found some stranded cable at BassPro shop in the saltwater fishing section, it was small in diameter but rated at 80#'s. I was able to spool about 15 feet onto the 1/8th scale 3R winch for my Willys. The spool had 30' on it and it was only about $8.
mikemollic
Rock Stacker
Breaded fishing line works great
