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Do you believe in God,Heaven or Hell?
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Teng
RCC Addict
Dear friend, greetings. If you don’t mind, would you please to take few minutes to watch this video
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UwHJcU1rLUE
and this The Suffering of Jesus Christ
May God bless you all here. Yes All of your here ;-)
CREEPERBOB
Yashua
Yes, yes and yes.
And your last question is easy to answer.
And this is the easiest question to answer, our loving Aba Father created us with a mind and a free will as well as a spirit man therefore "WE" are responsible for the suffering in the world.
WE elect our governments, WE allow the hate and injustice to continue while we all sit back with our facesburied in a device or tv and cannot see our own culpability in the chaos that is our world.
Our Father my Elohim and Jesus my Yahushua messiah have provided more than enough evidence for me to believe and His Word is instruction for us but again our free will determines the outcome.
We are in as the days of Noah, and time is rushing by and the bride is filthy and unprepared.
As for me and my house we will serve Yahwey.
Bob
spaceman5280
Quarry Creeper
You are making a claim that there is a god so the burden of proof is on you.
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spaceman5280
Quarry Creeper
To be historically accurate, you must include Muslims in that list because all three groups claim to follow the “god” of Abraham. This is why they are referred to as Abrahamic religions.
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Bob, so it's OK to stand by and watch somebody get beaten up or robbed or raped? Even if you have the ability to stop that from happening? And you call this being good?
I don't think that letting your own son die when you have the power to prevent it being good parenting.
What about getting Josefs wife pregnant? It's good to get other peoples wives pregnant?
Come on.
Clearly your definition of good is different from mine.
I don't think that letting your own son die when you have the power to prevent it being good parenting.
What about getting Josefs wife pregnant? It's good to get other peoples wives pregnant?
Come on.
Clearly your definition of good is different from mine.
ThatJeeper2017
Rock Crawler
If the Muslims are in that same list, then why all the killing of Jews and Christians? Also why today do all of the surrounding Muslim countries despise Israel?
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spaceman5280
Quarry Creeper
You need to ask the fanatics why they are fanatical, not a rational atheist.
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DavidH
Quarry Creeper
What does he get, exactly?
He is posting evidence against his own beliefs, and bringing up the fact that even among those that believe in gods they can't agree on who has it right.
DavidH
Quarry Creeper
To ask someone to prove a negative is intellectually bankrupt, but I would submit that the inability of any religionist - Christians, in particular - to provide robust evidence for the existence of their deity as evidence for its lack of existence.
DavidH
Quarry Creeper
What evidence was that, exactly? Can you present it here? How do we test it, to see that it is not simply imagined?
DavidH
Quarry Creeper
Before either of you respond further in this thread, could you answer this for me:
Hypothetically, if you knew that I had seen a child being raped, and had the ability to interfere, would you hold me responsible for standing by, allowing it to happen, and saying nothing to anyone about it?
Does your morality say that I should have interfered?
Teng
RCC Addict
Christ the Wisdom and Power of God
18For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
19For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
20Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? 21For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe. 22For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom: 23But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness; 24But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
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18For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
19For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
20Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? 21For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe. 22For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom: 23But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness; 24But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
1 Corinthians 1 King James Bible [emoji4][emoji4]
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DavidH
Quarry Creeper
DavidH
Quarry Creeper
Let's try again:
Hypothetically, if you knew that I had seen a child being raped, and had the ability to interfere, would you hold me responsible for standing by, allowing it to happen, and saying nothing to anyone about it?
Does your morality say that I should have interfered?
Yes or no?
DavidH
Quarry Creeper
I would guess that we shouldn't see suffering, but because we do see suffering, the religionist is tasked with devising a vast and intricate rationale to explain this allegedly loving, eternal, all-powerful "something" is, in every external, objective respect, indistinguishable from nothing.
Teng
RCC Addict
Hi Brother David, yes I will ask you stop the bad guy and save the little girl.
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DavidH
Quarry Creeper
In this scenario, I did nothing to stop it, said nothing.
In your words, what kind of person does that make me?
Teng
RCC Addict
It is not good to be like this, if we have the ability we should try our best to stop all forms of evil things. As the bible tells us, we are all the sinners. Some people maybe are just to weak to stop evil, but does not mean their cold blood or low in morals standards. Ya Maybe.....
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