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New Axial "working on something fast"

I guess I'm adding to the complaint list even tho I intend it to be more of a observation... Why are the trailing arms so narrow on the axle? I get they used the wraith axle. But wouldn't the yeti and wraith be better handling and more scale if the the trailing arms/links were positioned closer to the tires? Other then that tho this rig looks to be a great platform. Thanks Axial!! Hopefully the traxxas relations will cease now.
 
Why are the trailing arms so narrow on the axle? I get they used the wraith axle. But wouldn't the yeti and wraith be better handling and more scale if the the trailing arms/links were positioned closer to the tires?

I just checked my rig that has trailing arms and AR60's they appear to be in the exact same location as on the Yeti axle. Remember, the rear has wideners, aka optional rear steer.
 
I guess I'm adding to the complaint list even tho I intend it to be more of a observation... Why are the trailing arms so narrow on the axle? I get they used the wraith axle. But wouldn't the yeti and wraith be better handling and more scale if the the trailing arms/links were positioned closer to the tires? Other then that tho this rig looks to be a great platform. Thanks Axial!! Hopefully the traxxas relations will cease now.

Because one axle is used front and rear on a Wraith and if you widened the link mounts you wouldn't get any steering angle.
 
It looks like there might be some need for adjustable toe/camber links in the near future. But then again, this thing is going to be fast and needs to give a little. By the looks of the two body posts up front, this thing is going to be a pain to get in:cry:
 
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Because one axle is used front and rear on a Wraith and if you widened the link mounts you wouldn't get any steering angle.


Yeah, lol I should've thought a little harder before speaking. Non the less would the rear of the yeti in some applications benefit from a wider trailing arm position? Not to mention give the shocks better stability/leverage... Perhaps it would work against rock crawling tho. Would be nice if aftermarket axles could accommodate a more outboard position for those that want it. Especially if anyone wants to make a sc truck.


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Yeah, lol I should've thought a little harder before speaking. Non the less would the rear of the yeti in some applications benefit from a wider trailing arm position? Not to mention give the shocks better stability/leverage... Perhaps it would work against rock crawling tho. Would be nice if aftermarket axles could accommodate a more outboard position for those that want it. Especially if anyone wants to make a sc truck.


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If the trailing arm is mounted clutter to the wheel, then that would effectively decrease the leverage on the shock & spring. It is very similar to a shock mounted on an IRS or IFS setup in that the closer the shock is mounted to the wheel the less leverage the wheel and suspension arm have to compress it. Mounting the shock further away from the wheel does the opposite and increases the effective leverage.

I hope this makes sense.
 
If the trailing arm is mounted clutter to the wheel, then that would effectively decrease the leverage on the shock & spring. It is very similar to a shock mounted on an IRS or IFS setup in that the closer the shock is mounted to the wheel the less leverage the wheel and suspension arm have to compress it. Mounting the shock further away from the wheel does the opposite and increases the effective leverage.

I hope this makes sense.

It does and that is the principle behind mounting the shock further up the trailing arm. It achieves more travel with less needed shock length as well as multiplies forces during compression and rebound. But in the context on a trailing arm set up not A-arms where the pivot is different, would a more outboard trailing arm position on the axle provide better leverage regarding stability?
 
It does and that is the principle behind mounting the shock further up the trailing arm. It achieves more travel with less needed shock length as well as multiplies forces during compression and rebound. But in the context on a trailing arm set up not A-arms where the pivot is different, would a more outboard trailing arm position on the axle provide better leverage regarding stability?

I prefer to run the rear links on my AX-10 axle housings on the outside of the mounts. You lose the double shear, but it doesn't really seem to bother anything. I've never done it on my AR housing trucks but I don't see why you couldn't.
 
I prefer to run the rear links on my AX-10 axle housings on the outside of the mounts. You lose the double shear, but it doesn't really seem to bother anything. I've never done it on my AR housing trucks but I don't see why you couldn't.

I run my 1.9 wraith like this, I needed the extra clearance when I narrowed the diff's, doesn't seem to be a problem. Now were where we.:flipoff:
 
Imo this truck needs s SC body.

IFS on a scale crawler truck? It's like a Tamiya's XC but widder and bigger wheels.

99% of the forum users try to gain more axle flex, not more camber.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URWLnItt5p0

IFS on a scale ULTRA4 truck, not a scale crawler specifically.

And 99% of the users on this forum in 2004 were looking for more flex, but 10 years later we have realized where certain characteristics are beneficial. This will not be winning crawling comps, but that's not it's purpose.

And just one of my favorite examples of an IFS Ultra4 Truck

slideshow11of12.jpg
 
IFS on a scale ULTRA4 truck, not a scale crawler specifically.

And 99% of the users on this forum in 2004 were looking for more flex, but 10 years later we have realized where certain characteristics are beneficial. This will not be winning crawling comps, but that's not it's purpose.

And just one of my favorite examples of an IFS Ultra4 Truck

slideshow11of12.jpg


Scale Ultra4?

1/1 truck rides 140cm tall tires and 22" rims?
 
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