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New Losi "Comp Claw" review - Axial Midwest Indoor.

O.C.D.

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I was very lucky to acquire a set of the new Losi "Comp Claws" before my trip to Omaha last weekend. I had encountered them here in Colorado and was very interested in trying them out. I would like to thank Rich from Losi for getting these in my hands before the event.

That being said, I had a few hours to mount them and get them roughed up a little. I would have taken more/better pictures but time was really crunched. So I snapped what I could.

Here they are straight from the shipping package.
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You can tell that they are a lot different.
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Losi changed the Claws quite a bit with the new Comp Claws. Here you can see the main lugs are now staggered. The secondary lugs are now sipped for better sidehilling and climbing. The center lugs also have more meat to them this time around. The inside of the sidewall has an overlapping triangle pattern to help increase sidewall strength.
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Mounting the new Claw was actually easier on my MSD wheels. Seems that losi reduced the amount of rubber that the bead ring used to seat in the wheel. I could have imagined it but the process went a lot faster than the standard Claws.

Here is a comparison of the older Claw with the new Comp Claw. You can see that the tire is taller than before. It is not anywhere near a Rover or Grabber, but it is considerable to the older Claw. I personally like this as I am not ever wanting to go to a Rover size tire with the way I have my shafty set up.
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I used the same foams up front for each tire. They are the NWTT Reach Hybrids that I have used for a while. I really like the foams. In the Older Claws there was very little room and they seemed stuffed in there. The new Comp Claws filled out so much better with a taller foam. Here is the comparison of the older Claw and the newer one. Notice the profile of the new one!
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And of course, the most important angle. Here is a face to face shot. You can tell that these are taller and more filled out by the foams.
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Again, this was last minute, but you can see that they are indeed a larger tire this time around.
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Here they are at rest next to the little brothers. They are bigger!
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Now, for performance. LIke I mentioned, these were brand new when I received them. I had no run time on them. We were not allowed to practice in Omaha so All I had was a couple of minutes of concrete burnouts from the night before.

The first course (MaxAmps course) consisted of slickrock and dusted stone. The first line I chose was one that I was uncertain of due to the new tires and them not being broken in. The Comp Claws followed my lead and went straight through the lne and grabbed all the way up. I honestly was shocked. The added height was an obvious advantage in Omaha as there were tons of axle grabbers and skid hangups. I can confidently say that without the extra height I would have had way more hangups from the older claws. I had no issue with these. I can tell that the sipping and staggering of the lugs really changed the feel of the tire. Staggering allowed for a more consistent contact patch when grip was lost.

Anyone in Omaha can attest that there was little to no sidehilling. On the Hitec course I followed every high prfile tire through the course. That course had the most sidehilling there. It was no problem at all. With full Carvers in the rear I had no loss of sidewall strength. They held up great.

My personal excitement will come here in Colorado. That is when I get to try them in my home element. If they handle the same or even better here than I am set.

Keep in mind production tires will have writing molded in as well as the Losi "Gription" finish. If you are not aware it is a covering of smaller beads (very small) that lie in between the lugs for extra traction.

So, I have much more testing to do here in Colorado. I will post up progress as it comes.

Thank you again Rich, I really had a great time using the new Comp Claws. As I mentioned in the email, they were easily noticed by everyone.

Jon

And yes, this is my new and last name change on the board. I am now O.C.D.
 
And most everybody thought us guys that clocked our old Losi claws were crazy. :roll:
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Props to Losi for keeping aware of the mod and adding it to the new Comp Claw tires"thumbsup" I am excited to try the new version of the Rock Claw. How great is it that a company actual pays attention to the people on this forum. I can't wait to see what the comp crawler will be like:shock:"thumbsup".
 
So did you like the tires how did they perform on the rest of course's?
 
and here i thought my 3rd tire set was gonna be panthers.... lol

you damn losi guys and your cutting edge technology.

gonna make bob go broke!
 
So did you like the tires how did they perform on the rest of course's?
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They performed better all around. Like many that were there can vouch, the courses were not biased toward any tire or rig. The bergs had no advantage over shafties I felt. No tire seemed to have an advantage unless they were glued, lol.

The courses were very short and very technical. Many tight turns and steep climbs. There was no such thing as sidehilling except for a small piece on the Hitec course. I will be testing them here in Palmer Park soon so I can get a real feel for them.

I will admit I am Claw biased as I have never owned or wanted to buy another kind of tire. These are taller, better designed, and exactly what I want for my driving style. "thumbsup"
 
Nice write up Jon, thanks for running them in Omaha.

Tires should begin shipping to dealers at the end of this month.
 
Size matters!

Hey Rich or O.C.D.

What is the actual OD of the tire?

Somewhere it said that these claws will be at 5.2 in. how is that measured?

I have a set of rock carvers that are supposed to be 5.2 but two different people using two different calipers (no weight on the tire) can only get a measurement of 4.9 at best.

Are the claws going to be the same? The carvers are bigger than the ARTR hammers by a good bit but definetly not 5.2 unless there is a secret way to measure a tire that myself and the other person (an engineer) do not understand.

Please do not take this as being negative as I have a set of new claws on pre order from Corey and am excited to try them. I am just curious as to what the size is supposed to be and how those sizes are determined.

Thanks
 
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Hey Crawlin circles. I am not the designer or had any part of that. But I can tell you this. I just used a caliper on the tire. I have a full foam in the front and that is what I measured. They are at rest as the memory has been elevated.

Here is what I have:

Height: a little over 5-1/8"
Width: a little over 2-1/8"

Hope that helps.
 
Finally got to run these on my home turf yesterday. All I can say is WOW!!!

Here in my local spot we go to Palmer Park. It is mainly sandstone with some run off debris. Usually pretty clean in the fun areas so it is a higher grip area.

These tires are almost night and day on my rig. I was able to make some really high climbs with them. They have a higher sidewall so they fold over more. But I think a stiffer foam would help more. The siped lugs really improved the sidehilling as well.

My favorite part of testing them was making a ledge climb that was done with bergs before me. I know for a fact that the added height made the climb do-able. I could not have made it with regular Claws.

Funny thing is when I made the climb I dropped into a tire grabber and I bound my rig really good. The tire rotated about 90 degrees on the wheel!!! I didn't have my camera but someone else got a pic of it. I have never seen a tire give that much. I know they are the same compound but they feel a little softer. I noticed this on an of-camber step climb. I couldn't make the line that was proposed so I went another route and made that one. Tires did very well.

They are getting more an more broken in as well. They keep getting better all around. Although these are pre-pros I will be buying the production ones as they will have the gription on them. Have to see if that helps as well.

Worth the wait people!

Jon
 
sorry i missed you guys yesterday, but i saw the first run oc.d did with these tires and watched rubbaneck drive with his . theay look like a great addition to the crawler tire market . great job losi"thumbsup"
 
you say it's a night and day difference over your old tires.

maybe I missed it earlier in the thread but, what tire did you run before this or are you comparing them too?

thanks!
 
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