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Petition/poll ~ Keep bodiless rigs in Sportsman!!!!

Do you want keep bodiless rigs in Sportsman?

  • No, they're too scary.

    Votes: 44 17.3%
  • Hell Yes!

    Votes: 210 82.7%

  • Total voters
    254
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True, but there have been several crawler bodies made right to "spec"
If the rules changed so would the bodies.

Good point. And relaxing that rule a bit would give new cause for big sponsors to reinvest. I bet they'd sell a butt-load of new skinny bodies. I think they'd prefer retooling vs us bending the hoo-haa out of their existing lineup. A bunch of pointy headed Proline bug bodies would be quite a sight. ;-)

BTW I voted in favor of bodiless 100% based on my feelings on the bodied rules.

Thanks for your support! "thumbsup"
 
True, but there have been several crawler bodies made right to "spec"
If the rules changed so would the bodies.

BTW I voted in favor of bodiless 100% based on my feelings on the bodied rules.

IMO if the spec for bodies did change....there would be bodies made to spec in time....and current bodies could be modded.

a smaller body may keep some guys in a body also,instead of making a switch...
but not me

my son can usualy flip it without taking a rollover....a smaller body isnt gonna really help with recovery.

thats the biggest advantage IMO,unless you run a bug,recover with a body is ver difficult usually.
 
IMO if the spec for bodies did change....there would be bodies made to spec in time....and current bodies could be modded.

a smaller body may keep some guys in a body also

but not me

my son can usualy flip it without taking a rollover....a smaller body isnt gonna really help with recovery.

thats the biggest advantage IMO,unless you run a bug,recover with a body is ver difficult usually.

I've actually had a harder time recovering since I went bodiless. I've also been known to slide through a gate or two upside down and backwards...hard to do that without a nice slick poly lid...
 
I've actually had a harder time recovering since I went bodiless. I've also been known to slide through a gate upside down and backwards...hard to do that without a nice slick poly lid...

I am not talking personal preference on this guys, but I almost failed tech at the rox box for having a bug body bent in on the bottoms. I literally went home and ordered a bodiless chassis.
 
I've actually had a harder time recovering since I went bodiless. I've also been known to slide through a gate or two upside down and backwards...hard to do that without a nice slick poly lid...


see,bodiless is suurely not for everyone,but for some it is......why is that so hard to get for some?


also if you run no weight in your wheels////like having knuckle weight instead
you will find it harder to flip,as there is less inertia to carry to the chassis.

I run weight in the wheels for that purpose alone
 
I am not talking personal preference on this guys, but I almost failed tech at the rox box for having a bug body bent in on the bottoms. I literally went home and ordered a bodiless chassis.

No, we understand. I ran my bug bodies bent in too. Its a fine line that is easily cut too close.
 
Here is my (old) illegal rig

IMAG0063-1.jpg


100% in spec bodiless

IMG_20110407_205255.jpg
 
see,bodiless is suurely not for everyone,but for some it is......why is that so hard to get for some?


also if you run no weight in your wheels////like having knuckle weight instead
you will find it harder to flip,as there is less inertia to carry to the chassis.

I run weight in the wheels for that purpose alone

Same here. Took all the weight out of the wheels and put it on the knuckles. I've slowly been putting it back in.
 
Here is my (old) illegal rig

IMAG0063-1.jpg


100% in spec bodiless

IMG_20110407_205255.jpg

now if yo have your hight measured just right,then bend it in....its now possibly to short.

and if yo bend it in too much on the bottom,it can pull the side in up top too,making it too narrow.

best thing to do is make a jig and teck it yourself before you take it to the tech table.



another thing I notice here,now keep in mind this is just my opinion

but the body looks kinda cheezy IMO on the truck

the bodiless looks like a mean mfka
 
now if yo have your hight measured just right,then bend it in....its now possibly to short.

and if yo bend it in too much on the bottom,it can pull the side in up top too,making it too narrow.

best thing to do is make a jig and teck it yourself before you take it to the tech table.

Or do the easy thing and run bodiless. The rules on bodies make it a pain in the ass to mess with them, worrying about bends, lengths, blah blah. Just buy a bodiless and be done. The bodiless rules should be the same as the body rules. That's my .02 on the subject.
 
I'm going to bed and dream of my new bff's krawlfreak and fishmaxx. ;-)

You boys don't make too big of a mess of my thread while I'm gone. :ror:
 
The bug body that goes on the mini crawler would be a nice base line. I am still all for bodiless sportsman though."thumbsup"

I thought you said you were going to bed:flipoff:
 
Ok, I just skimmed from upto page 16, catching up from yesterday...

So, let me get this right... I am interpreting from Fishstixx's post that the reason behind it is that a bodyless Spurtsman might be perceived as being "exotic" by a n00b and scare them away?

But that is honest.

What isn't, is roping in a newbie, who thinks his off the shelf Venom is the same as the one that has the same body over yonder running the bonus line, to be a, pointed out, then be told "no, there is all sorts of stuff different under the body"

Seems a little naive to me. Just saying.
 
First off, I'm going to comment on the body vs bodiless sizing. It wasn't just about the weight up high that they allowed the bodiless to be smaller. A bodiless chassis doesn't bend and conform to rocks like a body does. I've run courses before where a low slung bodied rig couple simply bury their cab hard into a rock and push through, flexing the body, but the bodiless chassis'd rigs were SOL. They had to eat a gate because they'd hit cab and get wedged. It may not happen often, but it does happen.

Maybe it's worth looking at the body sizes (I'm saying maybe, not that it can or will happen), but how small can a body get before it's completely ridiculous?

If you want my opinion on it, the small comp body is what started the entire problem to begin with. In 2008, you either had tubers that looked like 1:1 buggies...sometimes single seat comp buggies, but still, they looked cool, or you had bodies that looked like 1:1 bodies. I ran an HPI Jeep Rubicon body for a while when I first started. There were other guys competing with Ford F100's, Range Rovers, etc. There was even an F650 bodied rig.

Then the Rock Pleazers, Bugs, and Halo Warthog looking bodies started showing up, followed by grapplers, etc. It didn't take long before all of the bodied rigs were class minimum sized bodies.

And honestly the comp scene kinda blows right now. You travel, and spend a bunch of cash then you get to drive for what, 15 min tops.

Have you been to a major comp? If you're only traveling for the 15 minutes on the rocks, then you're going for the wrong reasons. I go to ECC and spend the entire time hanging out with my friends, and I just happen to get to run my toy trucks while I'm doing it.

And lets be honest if you are not a team driver you are SOL.

That's simply not true, and, quite honestly is the same negative attitude that we need to change to retain the new guys locally.

Just as an example, I had no sponsors, and I won 1.9 at ECC this year.
 
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