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It's called search. If you have a question it has probably been answered several times on this forum.



Anyway...
If you think about the stress that these products are put under you will realize why they break. If you hit a rock going 5mph then it would be like a fullsize car doing 50mph. I don't know about you but most cars wouldn't suvive that. If you take anything that is made for the RC Crawler and just put around on asphalt then it will stay perfectly fine for as long as you live but once you start taking it out and balancing all of the trucks weight on one wheel then you are going to have some breakage. If you Bind up the tire so it wont spin and then force it to spin what do you think is going to happen??? Obviously if something doesnt work right off the bat then that is the manufacture's fault. BUT, you have to be fair. Look at any add for an RC product and show me where it says "prodct will never break"..... If you can find that then I will switch sides and blame the producer but untill then blame yourselves. Same products are better then others and take longer to break but eventually they will wear and give out.

Nothing lasts forever....
 
Did you not read?? I said normal use and 1 hour??

If your ganna quote me atleast be accurate.

It's called search. If you have a question it has probably been answered several times on this forum.



Anyway...
If you think about the stress that these products are put under you will realize why they break. If you hit a rock going 5mph then it would be like a fullsize car doing 50mph. I don't know about you but most cars wouldn't suvive that. If you take anything that is made for the RC Crawler and just put around on asphalt then it will stay perfectly fine for as long as you live but once you start taking it out and balancing all of the trucks weight on one wheel then you are going to have some breakage. If you Bind up the tire so it wont spin and then force it to spin what do you think is going to happen??? Obviously if something doesnt work right off the bat then that is the manufacture's fault. BUT, you have to be fair. Look at any add for an RC product and show me where it says "prodct will never break"..... If you can find that then I will switch sides and blame the producer but untill then blame yourselves. Same products are better then others and take longer to break but eventually they will wear and give out.

Nothing lasts forever....
 
Did you not read?? I said normal use and 1 hour??

If your ganna quote me atleast be accurate.

Normal use for an RCC is crawling which is how people break things. I twisted a HD SS axle shaft from RC4WD in about 30min but I didn't get pissy I just upgraded.
 
Normal use for an RCC is crawling which is how people break things. I twisted a HD SS axle shaft from RC4WD in about 30min but I didn't get pissy I just upgraded.

Can I sell you stuff that sucks too then? But dont get pissy just buy my other trash.
 
Many of the members here are in and out, its not a full time hobby and they don't want to spend 3 hours or more a day researching for a $30 product. So they ask a question after they spend a few minutes looking for the answer. They then get a huge amount of grief by the members that know all the answers and spend 5+ hours a day on the board. Maybe you need a pro section of the board so they don't have to be bothered by the more average folks.
So basically you want to be lazy and not research anything and buy the 1st thing you see, and then later when it breaks because it's from Integy or other junk company you get on here and complain about it being crap, well guess what, you're just preaching to the choir on that one. Also, like stallion has said, RCC is alot more stressful on parts and equipment than other forms of RC.

Put it this way: You get a 1:1 Jeep with a D30 front axle, and you go out and get 40" swampers without doing any research first, you fit them on and go running and you snap an axle in the 1st bind you get in, so you go again without doing research and buy upgraded axles and then go wheeling. Well guess what, they're still going to break, just going to take a little bit longer. Was it the manufactures fault that they broke? No. It's somewhat he same with RCC, these things are put in stressful situations and things are going to break, nothing you can do about it.
 
Can I sell you stuff that sucks too then? But dont get pissy just buy my other trash.

No but if it's cheap enough I'm sure you'll get some newb to buy it up.

"oooh, that's cheaper *click,buy* Woohoo. What do you mean it's not as good????"
 
Here's a scenario for ya. Let's say somebody DID build a 100% bulletproof crawler. Hardened steel throughout, tough as fawkin nails.

You'll never break it. In fact it comes with a guarantee. Drop it off a cliff, whatever. Total Wal-Mart on the warranty. Don't like the color after four years, we'll send you a new one.

The downside is that each one costs four grand. As a roller.

Okay, BigBalllicker will buy one, and Kenny probably would, too. That's two sales out of the 10,000 members here. Woo fawkin hoo. Everyone else whines about the price and/or says I WANT ONE!!!!11 but never pulls the trigger. Company says fawk it and goes back to touring cars, helicopters, tampons or whatever they were making before somebody convinced them that a bulletproof crawler was a good idea.

Everything is built to a price. You want quality, be prepared to pony up. Back in '05 I designed a CNC'd scale frame and got no takers at $250 a pop. Diaz sold the hell out of his finger-slashing, misdrilled junk at $60. Give the people what they want, even if it's fawkin junk.
 
Attack me all you want but its this simple...

If someone sells something it should be everything they said it is. And that means it shouldn't be a piece of crap out of the box and parts shouldn't fail under normal use in the first hour. Beyond that ya RC stuff alway breaks and you just have to deal with it, its the way it is.

As far as all the complaints about products you see on the board about misc. products, most of those complaints have some merit but there are those that will always have something to complain about.

Many of the members here are in and out, its not a full time hobby and they don't want to spend 3 hours or more a day researching for a $30 product. So they ask a question after they spend a few minutes looking for the answer. They then get a huge amount of grief by the members that know all the answers and spend 5+ hours a day on the board. Maybee you need a pro section of the board so they don't have to be bothered by the more average folks.

Seriously not trying to be an ass but that is my point of view. Pretty sure some internet tough / cool guy will now have a smart ass comment / insult for me now. I'm sure 99% of those people wouldn't be able to look me in the eye face to face but thats the internet.





So let me see if I got all of your whining straight...


You want 100% accuracy on everything, and no blame what so ever to fall on you as the user? No wonders you got pissed when Kami hit the entitlement button.

No company can EVER guarantee 100% perfect parts, 100% of the time. That is just not possible in this thing we call the real world, maybe it happens in your dream land. Even the role model for business, Toyota, makes mistakes. Why do you think industries use ISO Certifications, Six Sigma, and other Lean process control models? It's not because the paperwork helps, it is there to track the failure rate (and define failure) and to mitigate failure to a realistic level. If you can find a way to mass produce a product with a 100% pass rate, and 0% failure rate you need to be a consultant because every major business would want to know that.


The Losi CVD issue was a machining Q&A mistake and Losi is working on making it right. Wow, imagine that a company making a honest mistake right for their customers. I'd call that customer service, not sure what you would call it though. Sure we'd all like to have it perfect out of the box, but this is life. So far all I have had fail is 1 spur, but I am not going to complain just go out and find a longer nosed pinion so I get better engagement on the spur. I know why it failed, but with your logic I should be calling Losi out and that helps no one in the long run.


As for not saying it to your face, ask anyone that knows me personally, there is no difference between the net and real life. If you're wrong and I can prove it I will call you out no matter who you are. There is a reason why I am in charge of the jobs I am at my job, and why I get sent into the field to supervise installations. Can't have a pushover letting a contractor making mistakes that will cost us big cash.



This is a hobby yes, but one I do enjoy. I research and buy what I need or design it and have it made or I will make it myself. Some of us were born with plastic sporks in our mouths and not silver spoons so we know how to be creative and find solutions to problems without having our hand held. Being creative and inventive is part of why I prefer crawling of racing. Trail and error combined with learning new things and reading up on all that is going on so that I can pull ideas for different places helps me out to build crawlers that suite me and my driving style. As it needs to work for me, I can't expect a 1 size fits all Roller to do that, now can I? That is what made crawling great a few years ago, people thought for themselves, and you know what? Most of the hand holding entitlement people ran off some great assets to this site. Not too many of them post on here anymore, and I know a lot of people like myself think long and hard before we post up. It is a sad state of affairs when a great site like this can sustain such a childish and IQ lowering thread like this. Even worse is when I read that people really do believe that they are owed something. Nothing is free, so sack up and get to building or find a hobby that doesn't require free thinking.

/rant
 
"You know what really grinds my gears?" Peter Griffin
If Peter grinds your gears, I hope Lois gets your motor runnin...

Mmmmm.............I sure miss the days of 79 dollar TLT kits.


Now where is my Bulu?8)
Amen to that. I was half-way through my first TLT crawler when the Bulu hit the scene. Went down to the LHS, picked up another TLT (my LHS was clearancing them for $49) and threw together a TLT with a Bulu. Blew out a ring gear on the maiden run, then it got stolen out of my trunk when I grabbed some McDonalds on the way to get a new gear (no RCP lockers yet, locked my spider gears with the lockers from the XC/CC-01) That is when I started putting together my Super... Nice to see that it is still on the main RCCrawler page. (sorry, they are on the Reviews and News page...I miss that rig, it went anywhere!)
 
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