Summit as a comp rig?

[nice68ss]

crawler

i would have to agree to that and say the summit is a blast and an awesome basher but i would buy a crawler and keep summit as a fun basher/racer

 

[wovereene]

how do you figure it wouldn't crawl anything an axial could and beat it ..

 

[dirtyal]

how do you figure it wouldn't crawl anything an axial could and beat it in competition..and why the hell would you down grade independant suspension for strait axle.....

If independent suspension was the way to go dont you think people would be using rigs with it? Independent suspension is not for crawling.

 

[Tanis]

If independent suspension was the way to go dont you think people would be using rigs with it? Independent suspension is not for crawling.

Exactly! Hmmmm..wonder why the 1:1's aren't using independent suspension on their crawlers

 

[wovereene]

Exactly! Hmmmm..wonder why the 1:1's aren't using independent suspension on their crawlers

they do..... its a bit more costly though

 

[wovereene]

Exactly! Hmmmm..wonder why the 1:1's aren't using independent suspension on their crawlers

straight axles are cheaper and easier to modify....

 

[666]

Summit-comp rig-does not fit in any of the rules.

 

[rm25x]

they do..... tells me you dont really know about the real rigs

HAHA I remember Walker Evans trying it, with less then stellar results.

 

[Tanis]

they do..... tells me you dont really know about the real rigs

Show me pics of 1:1 comp crawlers that use IFS:idea:
:ror: Ya, I'm clueless about 1:1 rigs :ror:

straight axles are cheaper and easier to modify....

You forgot, and they put the power to the ground waaaaay better

 

[TURTLE]

Exactly! Hmmmm..wonder why the 1:1's aren't using independent suspension on their crawlers

Are you crazy everyone is doing it! Its the coolest!

Walker Evans ran his indy rig for what 10 minutes, thats a long time!
I talked to him about it, he said it was a piece, few months later that thing was gone!"thumbsup"

 

[Tanis]

Are you crazy everyone is doing it! Its the coolest!

Walker Evans ran his indy rig for what 10 minutes, thats a long time!
I talked to him about it, he said it was a piece, few months later that thing was gone!"thumbsup"

I'm gonna do IFS on my next 1:1 build, just so I can prove myself and everybody else wrong:mrgreen:

I remember Walker didn't keep it very long...

 

[wovereene]

They were Axial 40 Series Narrow beadlocks, with RC4WD Rock Crushers, the largest they make, at 8.26" Diameter !
I built it mainly for the tires, lol, they just looked amazing.

The thing flexed great, you would lift one tire 10" off the ground with the other three still on the ground.
I had a titain 750 motor in it I think, with the lowest gearing you can do in an ERevo, and it still wasnt near enough power.
The tires could have been a bit softer also, they just didnt want to hookup, I dont know if it was the Revo doing it, or the tires.
Its also TOO wide, sure its huge, with big tires, but its so wide you can still high center it easier than you would think.

~John

try out that 775 motor thats in the summit, its a 10 turn but the 775 makes a huge amount of torque with the 70:1 tranny low..

Yeah, I would have to agree, it will never win a competition. But it shines in other areas that crawler can't, like blasting through a stream.

and you pretty much dont have to "make" a course to accomidate the summit, i think this is one of the biggest differences....

Summit-comp rig-does not fit in any of the rules.

scalers are definitely cool, driver skill is a must..

 

[TattooKenny]

Don't forget Shannon Campbell's IFS rig

 

[wovereene]

The point of building a crawler like that is pretty much just to say you have done it. There are a lot easier and cheaper ways of getting a Super-class crawler. The point of making a crawler out of a Revo-based chassis would be to take advantage of the suspension.

jtice, what wheels and tire are those?

if people would hear me out, ya gotta add about 6 to 12 oz of wheel weight to the rim and then you can see some good crawling with the summit... it makes a huge difference....... cheap hop up as well.....

 

[wovereene]

Don't forget Shannon Campbell's IFS rig

super nice dude....

 

[wovereene]

They were Axial 40 Series Narrow beadlocks, with RC4WD Rock Crushers, the largest they make, at 8.26" Diameter !
I built it mainly for the tires, lol, they just looked amazing.

The thing flexed great, you would lift one tire 10" off the ground with the other three still on the ground.
I had a titain 750 motor in it I think, with the lowest gearing you can do in an ERevo, and it still wasnt near enough power.
The tires could have been a bit softer also, they just didnt want to hookup, I dont know if it was the Revo doing it, or the tires.
Its also TOO wide, sure its huge, with big tires, but its so wide you can still high center it easier than you would think.

~John

weight the wheels.... 6 to 12 oz will do it for the summit...

 

[Tanis]

if people would hear me out, ya gotta add about 6 to 12 oz of wheel weight to the rim and then you can see some good crawling with the summit... it makes a huge difference....... cheap hop up as well.....

I'm still waiting on video of your Summit:idea: remember, you claimed 65*

 

[Culetto]

I'm still waiting on video of your Summit:idea: remember, you claimed 65*

Its not impossible but its definatley not stock. Mine might have capped out at 30-35 with fresh bats and 2x 7cell packs totally stock. With the 2200Monster system and 6 cells its possible but the tires would shred and come unbalanced and destroy some of the suspension, also the body would have to be something a bit more aerodynamic.

 

[Stick King]

ifs

Show me pics of 1:1 comp crawlers that use IFS:idea:
:ror: Ya, I'm clueless about 1:1 rigs :ror:

You forgot, and they put the power to the ground waaaaay better

Like T.K. mentioned. Shannon Campbell has been toying with IFS. spending a good bit of $ trying to make it work. plenty of tuning and tons more $$$ is one big reason why we dont see more ifs. not to mention, straight axles are superior i.m.o.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPM3qfC6sg0&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZcaE0T7wHI&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHK2JjiPoBs&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZogfP74m4Y&NR=1

 

[crawler57049]

I have a summit love to crawl

I just bought a summit from LHS to crawl with have some great pics and places to crawl in SD but i am in the works to buy a AX10 if you know what i mean LOL summit is fun though