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X-Trail Range Rover Sport
- Thread starter Jaynen
- Start date
looks great. leave it this height, run a droop setup, and just open up the wheelwells a bit."thumbsup"
BGGruff
RCC Addict
Lookin good Jaynen! I was wondering what happened with this build. I think you made a good choice in tires, it looks like it'll look nice and proprtionate and as far as I've been told they're very capable. Mississippirocs is running them on his C20 scaler now and we're about to go hit the trails and I'm going to get to see how they perform first hand. I'm probably gonna end up with a set for one of my next scalers coming up in the near future. Keep it up and keep us posted. Sorry I didn't get back to you on those Flywheels, Istill can't find them in all my mess.
pantablo
I wanna be Dave
Jaynen, you back yet from vegas? Where is this build stand? Looking forward to crawling with you when you're up and running.
I'm headed to Santa Clarita tomorrow morning to check a new spot: Towsley canyon park, just off the 5 fwy, north of 14 fwy. off at Calgrove (L), park on right 1/4 mile down. its a hiking/biking trail with good rocks.
er, bump...
I'm headed to Santa Clarita tomorrow morning to check a new spot: Towsley canyon park, just off the 5 fwy, north of 14 fwy. off at Calgrove (L), park on right 1/4 mile down. its a hiking/biking trail with good rocks.
er, bump...
liveforocks
Pebble Pounder
It needs a Starbucks and a Hillary for president stickers to make it true scale:twisted:
countryboy4life
Quarry Creeper
Your so gay, no offense. Hilary sucks and Starbucks wouldn't send coffee to our troops. ;-)
liveforocks
Pebble Pounder
Since you obviously didnt get it. Every Range Rover guy I have ever ran into out wheelin has been a liberal douche. I am a hardcore right wing gun carrying rebel flag flyin republican nut job. You are right Hillary does suck.
I was just doin a little ribbing. The build looks great. Nice attention to detail! That roof rack looks spot on.
I was just doin a little ribbing. The build looks great. Nice attention to detail! That roof rack looks spot on.countryboy4life
Quarry Creeper
Oh my bad. Your just like my dad, brother, and I. lol. "thumbsup"
I am a hardcore right wing gun carrying rebel flag flyin republican nut job. You are right Hillary does suck. I was just doin a little ribbing.
I am a hardcore right wing gun carrying rebel flag flyin republican nut job. You are right Hillary does suck.
I was just doin a little ribbing.
I am back from Vegas now was working CES.
While I was gone the chassis arrived and just yesterday my last shipment came in. My receiver and crystal.
I have been having some trouble as a first timer with putting the build on the X-trail chassis since there are no instructions. A bit of trial and error and have had to redo things a few times.
As you will see in the following pictures it is pretty much a roller and just needs electronics.
I booboo'd and put the turnbuckles to lock out the steering on the front I realized when I went to take these pics. At least I think the curved end of the frame is meant to be the front.
Also check out that size of that receiver!
I need to shorten the wheel base even more which means I will have to use some separate screws to hold the tranny plate to the chassis so I can move the bottom links in farther.
I am also unsure as to how I am going to mount the battery plate and receiver etc. While there is the AX-10 live build thread I haven't seen a step by step for the X-trail and what has to be done differently.
I am worried that the bump stops you put on during the AX-10 build process may limit the travel too much but I dont know enough to be sure. I also feel like the shocks are a bit "stiff" and am not sure if most people stick with the 30 weight oil the ax-10 comes with and thats normal or if they are overfilled or what. Note I can press it down and all but I am not sure when it comes to flexing how much just lifting one corner should compress the suspension.
I dremeled the wheel wells where the line already was around the lip of it. The orange plastic the body is molded from shows through the paint as I havent touched it up but it makes it so the trail Dr's just fit inside with just a smidge of rubbing. Once I figure out the body mounting (nothing fancy yet I just need some basic ideas) and see how the fit will be I may mess with them some more after I sort the wheelbase issues.
Again I am sorry about the lack of updates things have been busy with work and CES and now I am writing a new blog over on mmorpg.com (my "real" job is a game designer I work on a game called Age of Conan)
While I was gone the chassis arrived and just yesterday my last shipment came in. My receiver and crystal.
I have been having some trouble as a first timer with putting the build on the X-trail chassis since there are no instructions. A bit of trial and error and have had to redo things a few times.
As you will see in the following pictures it is pretty much a roller and just needs electronics.
I booboo'd and put the turnbuckles to lock out the steering on the front I realized when I went to take these pics. At least I think the curved end of the frame is meant to be the front.
Also check out that size of that receiver!
I need to shorten the wheel base even more which means I will have to use some separate screws to hold the tranny plate to the chassis so I can move the bottom links in farther.
I am also unsure as to how I am going to mount the battery plate and receiver etc. While there is the AX-10 live build thread I haven't seen a step by step for the X-trail and what has to be done differently.
I am worried that the bump stops you put on during the AX-10 build process may limit the travel too much but I dont know enough to be sure. I also feel like the shocks are a bit "stiff" and am not sure if most people stick with the 30 weight oil the ax-10 comes with and thats normal or if they are overfilled or what. Note I can press it down and all but I am not sure when it comes to flexing how much just lifting one corner should compress the suspension.
I dremeled the wheel wells where the line already was around the lip of it. The orange plastic the body is molded from shows through the paint as I havent touched it up but it makes it so the trail Dr's just fit inside with just a smidge of rubbing. Once I figure out the body mounting (nothing fancy yet I just need some basic ideas) and see how the fit will be I may mess with them some more after I sort the wheelbase issues.
Again I am sorry about the lack of updates things have been busy with work and CES and now I am writing a new blog over on mmorpg.com (my "real" job is a game designer I work on a game called Age of Conan)
jonnyB4
Rock Stacker
jaynen, i just built my x-trail and found out that the stock axial shocks are no good. droop setup or internal springs just don't cut it. i ended up using jp custom rcs 110mm shocks and i've never been happier. they are great looking and give me great travel.... even with giant 2.2 rock crushers under it....
if you did it again, would you have stayed with the 110 or did you find them to be too long? I am following a few of the active X-Trail builds as I have an extra ax-10 and was going to give this a go soon.
Jaynen,
thanks for the nice write up so far.
The body is not mounted I dont think it can go any lower than the shock towers pressing against the inside of the hood (might not have been that way in the picture)
How do I lower the chassis? I am already using the "shortest" settings arent I?
Update. I shortened the wheelbase as much as it can go and adjusted the 3 link all the way in to its most restricted setting. Here are a couple pics to show what I mean about body mounting, the frame is way up there. It probably wont even be able to stay that way with electrics in. I have no choice but to find some other shocks. Anyone have some recommendations I might find at the LHS? I don't really want to have to order and wait for stuff again.
How do I lower the chassis? I am already using the "shortest" settings arent I?
Update. I shortened the wheelbase as much as it can go and adjusted the 3 link all the way in to its most restricted setting. Here are a couple pics to show what I mean about body mounting, the frame is way up there. It probably wont even be able to stay that way with electrics in. I have no choice but to find some other shocks. Anyone have some recommendations I might find at the LHS? I don't really want to have to order and wait for stuff again.
pantablo
I wanna be Dave
jaynen, did you get the hardware kit with the chassis? If so try running the droop setup to lower the ride height.
This is with the internal springs that came with the hardware kit. So unless I am completely missing some other setup part that was needed to run droop I am stumped on the stock shocks. I do have the shocks mounted outside the frame rather than in, but that would only angle the shocks slight and would not lose much height. The shocks are not overfilled either, just topped off with the 30 weight that came with the kit and with the hardware kits springs inside the shock body.
Edit: So I guess I have the spring in the wrong side for droop. I was thinking it was meant to go like the other springs, but its to go on the other side forcing the shock to compress rather than forcing it to rebound.
Edit: So I guess I have the spring in the wrong side for droop. I was thinking it was meant to go like the other springs, but its to go on the other side forcing the shock to compress rather than forcing it to rebound.
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Fixing the droop (I had the springs the wrong way) corrected the ride height issue, but I am not sure how I feel about the performance. Feels too stiff to adjust to extending the suspension.
Maybe I just don't know how to test flex.
Maybe I just don't know how to test flex.
I found these on another build here that look like a good fit / look -
http://rc4wdstore.com/product_info.php?products_id=638with
http://rc4wdstore.com/product_info.php?cPath=57&products_id=737
http://rc4wdstore.com/product_info.php?products_id=638with
http://rc4wdstore.com/product_info.php?cPath=57&products_id=737
Few things I might be able to help with.
What is the wheelbase of that body? The x trail (Harley can correct me if I am wrong) was designed for a minimum 11" wheelbase. Your body may be 10.5"?
Also you do not want that much clearance under the chassis. 2.5" should work great for a wheelbase around 11". This will also help out with some of the suspension geometry. Ideally you links should be parallel to the ground to prevent any axle steer (the movement of the axles following the radius of the links) Right now your links look to be at a 30 degree angle which will cause the axle to sweep forward as it travels up.
Some solutions would be to make your own links or shorten up the links the axial kit came with to achieve the correct wheelbase.
For shocks, check out the Losi mini lst shocks. They are nice and short to keep your ride height under control. You might be able to get the axial shocks to work for now but you will be very happy with a shorter shock as well.
Hope that helps? "thumbsup"
What is the wheelbase of that body? The x trail (Harley can correct me if I am wrong) was designed for a minimum 11" wheelbase. Your body may be 10.5"?
Also you do not want that much clearance under the chassis. 2.5" should work great for a wheelbase around 11". This will also help out with some of the suspension geometry. Ideally you links should be parallel to the ground to prevent any axle steer (the movement of the axles following the radius of the links) Right now your links look to be at a 30 degree angle which will cause the axle to sweep forward as it travels up.
Some solutions would be to make your own links or shorten up the links the axial kit came with to achieve the correct wheelbase.
For shocks, check out the Losi mini lst shocks. They are nice and short to keep your ride height under control. You might be able to get the axial shocks to work for now but you will be very happy with a shorter shock as well.
Hope that helps? "thumbsup"
Also kind of spendy imo
Just trying to help
I was typing about the RC4wd scale shocks it just got bumped between when you posted before me. It is a 10.3 actual completely scale wheelbase. So yes its shorter than what the X-trail is designed for I guess.
The mini LST shocks may be what I end up with. With the AX-10 shocks converted to droop properly they are 4 inches long and this gives me a ride height I like (see the last picture) at least in regards to the body fitment, but I see what you are saying is actually go even a little shorter so the whole thing rides lower and then mount the body higher to get the fender distance?
The shocks only extend about an inch or so I would say when I extended it as far as I could I got about a 5inch total length.
I might go to the LHS and look and see if they have any but I might as well try to see if I can get everything "working" with these first.