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Old 01-05-2023, 06:22 PM   #1
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I bought lil b 12 yrs ago from a buddy/brother of mine, RIP Jr. Lil b is a 84 ford f150 4x4 short bed stepside, 351w, c6 auto. Had a 3 in body lift when i got him, n added a 2 n half suspension lift. He was somebodys ol mud truck before i got it. Definantly a northern truck, as youll see in pics.

2 yrs ago i bought a 00 f350 super duty for a donor truck. 5.4 triton, 5spd, 4x4. The guy i bought it from said it would just shut off goin down the road, which is the reason it was parked. Dang thing didnt have a straight panel on it lol. I finally got a chance to start on it about 3 or 4 months ago. Had the body off n engine/trans pulled in about 6 hrs. Thankfully the only rust on the frame is surface rust.

Today i got a chance to get started tearin lil b down. The whole reason for this build is the frame. I knew it was rotted when i bought him, but didnt realize it was this bad. Ive pulled logs with it as big as the truck, romped around in fields n down dirt roads, even drove it 500 miles from my home town in IN to where i live now in AL. Everybody keeps tellin me, "u just need to junk that truck", "its not worth puttin money into". Well...would u sell/get rid of one of your kids? Lil b is family n i cant let him go. Had a guy try to buy him a few yrs ago, even offered me 2 harleys, n i wouldnt take it.

Im stoked to get more progress done, now that ive finally got started again. Already have the wheels n tires for him too lol. Just so happened to win a giveaway on custom offsets with a $15 tshirt. Got a set of 22x12 fuel wheels n 37x13.5 gladiator m/t tires. They make the 33s on lil b look tiny lol.

Thanks for checkin out the build so far. More to come as i make progress. Got alot of body work to b done, engine rebuild, n possibly a 4 inch lift...

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Old 01-05-2023, 10:17 PM   #2
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Check back in when you get them X comps mounted and some miles on them, Im in need of some new tires for my truck and really like the look of the Gladiator X Comps.


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Old 01-05-2023, 10:53 PM   #3
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Check back in when you get them X comps mounted and some miles on them, Im in need of some new tires for my truck and really like the look of the Gladiator X Comps.


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I predict they will be loud and unruly

Thatís going to be quite the upgrade in running gear for lil b!


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I cant wait! Got alot of work to do though
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Old 01-06-2023, 08:41 PM   #5
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She’s got loads of character. Wild to see 22in wheels on a rig of that vintage. The first vehicle I ever bought was a 1980 f150. Also had a 351. Loved that truck
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I cant wait! Got alot of work to do though


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I predict they will be loud and unruly

Thatís going to be quite the upgrade in running gear for lil b!


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Yeah I donít doubt it lol. Iíve heard that they are a lil quieter than Mud Grapplers.

I missed it last night, but Thatís awesome you won that wheel/tire combo Indy! I bought a hat to be entered in that same giveaway


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Smog, i had an 80 f150 4x4 when i was in high school. Wish id never let it go. 300 inline 6, 4spd granny, sittin on 31x10.5s. She'd go anywhere. My dad bought it from a oil rig place, he drove it for yrs. I ended up buying it from him

SLN thanks brother! I couldnt believe i won. Dont get my hopes up to much on somethin like that.

Ive got a set of the comforcer 3000 tires on my 87 f250. Theyre m/t tires. They were a lil noisy at first n had a lil bounce to them. But after 3000ish miles, theyre broke in to road use n arent that loud n ride smooth. Not had a chance to try them in the mud yet though, well clay. All we have in this part of bama is red friggin clay smh

My plan was to work on lil b saturday, but my buddy twisted my arm into meetin him at cherokee rock village instead. Had a blast with the ar45 capra, gshot, n v3 phoenix. Got a couple vids posted on my yt n more to upload. Hopefully get more work done on lil b this week. So stay tuned for updates n thanks for stoppin in
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Not alot to update on. I did get the bed bolted down for now. Plan is to get the cab ready to come off the original chassis tomorrow after work
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Whew, im behind on update fellas. Been workin on lil b since wed, just a few hrs a day.

Wed i worked on gettin the cab unbolted and the wiring loose from the cab. I managed to get 2 bolts to come out, 3 of them i cut after pulling the cab off. Whoever had this truck before my buddy Jr, didnt know wat they were doin. The stock body mounts werent even there, they just put a 3" lift under it with washers to somewhat pinch the edges of the holes. So when i pulled it off, the washed folded over enuf to fit thru the holes. N cut the bolts off aterwards.

Thurs i jumped back on the cab. Got real luck too. The front body mount of the 84 cab matched the front mounts of the 00 chassis n the wheel wells matched perfectly. The rear cab mounts are a different story. Ended up using some 1/4" flat stock n welded it to the crossmember. It doesnt hang over much, so im not to worried about it bending over from the weight.

Ive got to snag the front core support mounts from the old frame. The ones on the chassis come up thru the frame n are to narrow. So i cut the bolts off n ill get the other mounts done next week. Im goina have to build a custom bumper too. But, i love to fab things up n make them my own design

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So heres progress from today. Lil b is officially a F350!

Got to the shop around 730-8 this mornin. Done some measuring, then some thinkin, more measuring, thought about it some more, re-re measured, dang my head hurts lol, n went for it.

I ended up taking out 20 1/2" of frame rail. Went with a Z cut, its said to be a stronger joint. I wanted to have a 6" horizontal cut, but was only able to get 3 1/2". But im happy with how it turned out. I beveled the inner edge before i rolled the two halves together n clamped them. It was a pain to see wat i was doin with two cross braces right above my head, but i fed the wire to her. Went back over the outside with the edge of the grinding wheel n made a groove. Ran the cheek poker thru them n made sure they were good n clean. Shoved some more wire in the outside of the frame. Ground both sides smooth n used the sections of frame i cut out, to make some fish plate.

Got the fish plates welded to the inside, wanted a clean look on the outside of the frame. Then cut another section from the old frame sections n boxed in that section of the frame. Didnt get pics of the box weld. I done some measuring before i final welded, n the frame is perfectly square. Probably couldnt do it again if i tried lol.

Then it was time for the moment of truth... Will the bed fit? I was a bit scared i cut to much. My measurements said take out 20 5/8", but i only done 20 1/2". Glad i did too. The 5/8" wouldve give me an inch between the cab n bed for error, ive got a perfect 1 1/8" all the way across. The rear tire sits dead center of the fender.

After i get the front core support mounts done, im pullin the body back off. I want to run the cheek poker over the entire frame n give it a good coat of paint. Then ill sit the engine n trans back in, run temporary exhaust, n put the body back on. The exhaust will be redone after i get my other 351w built, but more on that later on.

Get the body back on, itll be time for body work. Really wanna get new fenders for the bed, that spare tire divet looks gawdy. Well touch more on that when the time comes.

Thats it for now, thanks a ton for checkin it out. Watch for more updates

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Quite the project, making short work of it.
My $.02, if it were mine, I'd keep an eye out in JYs for an OE stepside.
Doesn't look like a aftermarket/retro fit jobber due to the spare indent, any idea what it's off of?
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Doesn't look like a aftermarket/retro fit jobber due to the spare indent, any idea what it's off of?

Itís gotta be off of a 60s or mid 70s. Iíd have to see more pictures but thatís my guess.

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Not sure what the bed came off of, it was like that when i bought it. But ive got a National Parts Depot catalog on the way for 50s to late 70s ford trucks. Likely end up buyin new fenders, being as the front edge of the wheel well was cut on these. I love the look of the stepside beds, but the 80s n 90s style, like thorsteenster showed, theyre too much imo.

Is that your truck thor? Hows the top of the bed rail, slanted or flat? Mine are at about a 45į slant, but after a cetain yr they made them flat
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Ha, I wish! Sorry, just a pic from the good ole interwebs.
I love the early 80s Ford trucks, growing up pops had an 84 F250HD 4by with a 351W & T18. Man I loved driving that thing, wheeling that thing, and whatever else that thing.
I was pretty sure they were flat, and found another pic showing it.
https://i.redd.it/gq4crs64bjoz.jpg

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