Go Back   RCCrawler Forums > Scale Rigs Brand Specific Tech > Axial Brand Scale Rock Crawlers > Axial Wraith
Loading

Notices

Thread: G-Made Piggyback shocks on Wraith

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-16-2013, 07:38 PM   #1
Newbie
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: S.W Missouri
Posts: 48
Default G-Made Piggyback shocks on Wraith

I'm fixing to get new shocks and cant decide between the 95mm or 103mm which crawls best 95mm or 103mm any help would be greatly appreciated
lurchy is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 01-16-2013, 07:56 PM   #2
RCC Addict
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Crawlerado
Posts: 1,582
Default

Longer shocks allow for more flex. If you want to crawl, I would suggest 124mm shocks. This will give you he flex you need. However, it will also lift your rig, raising the COG. For that, you will need some elevated shock towers to lower it, thereby reducing your COG to leas than that of a stock Wraith. Flex and a low COG are friends if you like to crawl.

Name:  ImageUploadedByTapatalk1358391403.089319.jpg
Views: 4117
Size:  12.2 KB

Last edited by TheScaleAddict; 01-16-2013 at 08:00 PM.
TheScaleAddict is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2013, 08:53 PM   #3
Newbie
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: S.W Missouri
Posts: 48
Default Re: G-Made Piggyback shocks on Wraith

who makes the 124mm shock i haven't seen any
lurchy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2013, 08:55 PM   #4
RCC Addict
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Crawlerado
Posts: 1,582
Default

gMade. You can find them used on eBay. There are others though. RC4WD King shocks measure longer. I think Integy makes some too...
TheScaleAddict is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2013, 09:27 PM   #5
Quarry Creeper
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: AZ
Posts: 309
Default Re: G-Made Piggyback shocks on Wraith

I'd go with the shorter shocks. More "flex" doesn't mean it will crawl better and in some cases will actually make it worse.
dunerinaz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2013, 09:47 PM   #6
RCC Addict
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Marshalltown
Posts: 1,003
Default Re: G-Made Piggyback shocks on Wraith

I went with the 93mm. "droop" is good, but the increased ride height of a tall (+100mm) makes it tipsy. You can use a lowering "kit" but I would imagine you would be happy with a 93mm shock and tuning of springs and weight bias.
That Makes a crawler/scaler work well in all condtions. The biggest thing is TUNE your shocks that you decide to get. It will make your life better while running the wraith.
xgerstandtx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2013, 08:22 AM   #7
RCC Addict
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Crawlerado
Posts: 1,582
Default Re: G-Made Piggyback shocks on Wraith

Quote:
Originally Posted by dunerinaz View Post
I'd go with the shorter shocks. More "flex" doesn't mean it will crawl better and in some cases will actually make it worse.
Really? What 'cases' would those be?
TheScaleAddict is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2013, 08:34 AM   #8
RCC Addict
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: paradise
Posts: 1,354
Default Re: G-Made Piggyback shocks on Wraith

I have 124m Integy shocks on my wraith. I limited the travel to the same as stock. I also out boarded them and mounted them on the same level as the links.

Long shocks DO NOT equal better crawling. Just ask a few people and you will get the reasoning. Holes, cracks and many other instances where your tire drops in to far and gets you bound up and broke or rolled over are just a couple of examples.
crawler nut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2013, 08:39 AM   #9
RCC Addict
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Crawlerado
Posts: 1,582
Default

Pointless argument. Six of one vs. half a dozen of another. Still, I'll take my extra flex and superior driving skills over limited travel any day.
TheScaleAddict is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2013, 03:32 PM   #10
Rock Crawler
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Sparks
Posts: 590
Default Re: G-Made Piggyback shocks on Wraith

i run integy msr10 droop style on medium springs. 110mm pretty sweet!
cushdog58 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2013, 09:37 PM   #11
RCC Addict
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Marshalltown
Posts: 1,003
Default Re: G-Made Piggyback shocks on Wraith

I strongly agree with the fact that less travel is in most times better. I would much rather "carry" a wheel over a crack rather than flex down through it and try to balance that out. It is a proven fact over and over. More flex is not always better. Actually it is most of the time a hindrance.

Go do research on a xr10, sportsman, even a MRC. Shock limiters is commonplace in all these platforms. As fas as Scalers go(which is a stretch for most wraith's) the weight transfer(heavy) is better to keep a lower flex and keep forward momentum.

I sincerely think that your "long travel" shocks are better idea is misguided.
xgerstandtx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2013, 09:59 PM   #12
RCC Addict
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Crawlerado
Posts: 1,582
Default

Stock wraith flex is pathetic. The flex I have with the 124mm shocks and the shock towers is proportional to what it would be on a built 1:1 Jeep. Eden with the added flex, it wouldn't score 1000 on a rti ramp.
TheScaleAddict is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2013, 10:13 PM   #13
Quarry Creeper
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: AZ
Posts: 309
Default Re: G-Made Piggyback shocks on Wraith

There's a reason why even in 1:1, they don't run mega flex anymore. Long gone are the elliptical setups or huge travel link setups. It just doesn't work as well. Same goes for our wraiths. I've tried different setups and I can promise you, limited flex will outperform large amounts of flex in just about every situation. Super flex is good for pictures.
dunerinaz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2013, 10:17 PM   #14
Quarry Creeper
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: AZ
Posts: 309
Default Re: G-Made Piggyback shocks on Wraith

Quote:
Originally Posted by cephas View Post
Really? What 'cases' would those be?
What "case"? Just about every single one.
dunerinaz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-18-2013, 05:14 AM   #15
Rock Crawler
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: East Texas
Posts: 870
Default Re: G-Made Piggyback shocks on Wraith

Quote:
Originally Posted by dunerinaz View Post
There's a reason why even in 1:1, they don't run mega flex anymore. Long gone are the elliptical setups or huge travel link setups. It just doesn't work as well. Same goes for our wraiths. I've tried different setups and I can promise you, limited flex will outperform large amounts of flex in just about every situation. Super flex is good for pictures.
"Ignorance, unlike stupidity, is curable; enlighten me."

Duner just hooked you up. neither rc or 1:1 would benefit. Just think of the geometry. Your gonna need those superior driving skills so atleast you got em

Last edited by Joshs4x4toyz; 01-18-2013 at 07:49 AM.
Joshs4x4toyz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-18-2013, 05:02 PM   #16
Quarry Creeper
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Australia
Posts: 276
Default Re: G-Made Piggyback shocks on Wraith

Quote:
Originally Posted by cephas View Post
Stock wraith flex is pathetic. The flex I have with the 124mm shocks and the shock towers is proportional to what it would be on a built 1:1 Jeep. Eden with the added flex, it wouldn't score 1000 on a rti ramp.

How does scoring 1,000 on an RTI make your vehicle work better?

Flex can sometimes be handy, controlling that flex is however the only way to make it actually useful.

I personally have found that as long as you can ramp your junk onto the exquavilent of one of it's own tyres in height, then that's plenty. So most of my scalers can pick a wheel up 4 - 4 1/4 inches without lifting another wheel off the ground.

Any more and you struggle to deal with torque twist let alone roll stiffness.
sierrajim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-18-2013, 05:45 PM   #17
RCC Addict
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Crawlerado
Posts: 1,582
Default

OMG... My point was that my Wraith WOULD NOT score 1000. It has more flex than stock, which I prefer. It doesn't have 'super flex'. If you don't agree with my opinion, that's fine. Just remember... Opinions are like buttholes; don't be one. I won't be one either.
TheScaleAddict is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-18-2013, 08:26 PM   #18
Newbie
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: S.W Missouri
Posts: 48
Default Re: G-Made Piggyback shocks on Wraith

guys I just ask for a little help
lurchy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2013, 12:46 AM   #19
Rock Stacker
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Kernville
Posts: 78
Default Re: G-Made Piggyback shocks on Wraith

depends on what kind of driving you will/ are doing. I plan on getting the 103s and do a lowering kit since I am building towards a KOH style of car I want a touch more oil and travel for a high speed hit. it it is more of a trail/ crawler not much go fast I would go with the 95s
hope that helps
K.Hess is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2013, 02:43 AM   #20
Rock Crawler
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Wasilla Alaska
Posts: 528
Default Re: G-Made Piggyback shocks on Wraith

I'm running power stroke slash fronts on all 4 corners of my wraith with yellow springs. 45 weight oil in the front and 30 weight oil in the rear. Have three different sets of tires depending in where I'm crawling. But all tires are running CI foams narrow inners with medium outer foams front, narrow inners firm outer rear. I use that wraith strictly for crawling. It clings to rocks like a spider monkey. Good luck and have fun with set ups. Also talk with your local guys about setups.
alaskancrawler is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



G-Made Piggyback shocks on Wraith - Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
G-Made Transition shocks on Wraith? Soulo747 Axial Wraith 9 11-27-2011 07:20 PM
piggyback shocks? NeXt559 General Crawlers 1 11-10-2008 10:40 PM
piggyback shocks dan666 Newbie General 2 08-25-2008 05:13 PM
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:54 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.
Copyright 2004-2014 RCCrawler.com