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Old 04-23-2013, 10:18 AM   #1
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I installed the cms and panhard kit and the panhard bar hits the housing losing flex! Any suggestions?
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Old 04-23-2013, 10:24 AM   #2
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Default Re: Vanquish cms issue!

I am having the same issue, and I am trying to get mine lower. At this point I am going to remove my kit. I would like to see what advice anyone else has.
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Old 04-23-2013, 10:31 AM   #3
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This is the reason why I didn't put this kit on my other wraith....
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Old 04-23-2013, 10:44 AM   #4
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I think you have yours as good as it gets.



Get a Dinky S mount!

You have found out the cost for the scale look & points in competition.
You could shave down the truss a bit to get a few mm more, possibly a lower type truss (if there is one.)

I like the look of the CMS but I don't comp & want the most solid performance I can get.
I think what I have is the best I can get.
Any non stock servo mount I have found will limit your travel slightly (dinky being the least I have found)

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Old 04-23-2013, 10:58 AM   #5
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I will probably leave it on this wraith just because I have another one that I am building for just crawling and I will build this for scale looks. Thanks for the help!
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Old 04-23-2013, 11:07 AM   #6
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Can you rotate your axle forward a little using longer upper links, and then rotate the CHubs back to compensate.
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Old 04-23-2013, 11:13 AM   #7
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I have this installed with no issue. BUt I am no running a belly dragger.

Think you can adjust you shock position?

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Old 04-23-2013, 11:25 AM   #8
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I might try flipping the shock/ link mounts on the axle...
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Old 04-23-2013, 11:28 AM   #9
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I might try flipping the shock/ link mounts on the axle...
Flipping the mounts will decrease your travel & add lower points on your axle to hang on the rocks.

I flipped back to stock position after a few days & lowered the ride height with the shock springs
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Old 04-23-2013, 01:10 PM   #10
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I installed the cms and panhard kit and the panhard bar hits the housing losing flex! Any suggestions?
Is the suspension compressed??
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Old 04-23-2013, 01:31 PM   #11
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yes
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Old 04-23-2013, 01:43 PM   #12
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I installed the cms and panhard kit and the panhard bar hits the housing losing flex! Any suggestions?
Is ur pic of full squat or articulation from corner to corner? Edit.. lol, asked an answered.. phone didn't refresh..

How often do both shocks fully squat during running? Other then landing off a jump.... if you get full corner to corner articulation, does it really hinder anything?

I'm asking, cause I'm wanting a cms but.. I'm not doin it for scale looks. Just wanted it to get better link position, my horn hits the tie rod, and get it up an away from danger.. mine is goin to be for a mix but more for trail, g6, an poker/dash runs..
I'm digging the dinky S mount tho, that's sick!
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Old 04-23-2013, 02:44 PM   #13
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Yes corner to corner it hits. I probably lost almost an 1/8 inch of articulation
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Old 04-23-2013, 04:00 PM   #14
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I have a VP CMS and panhard kit on my wraith, and from the looks of it the same shocks Gmade 103 piggybacks, my panhard bar touches the top mount at the same time the shocks bottom out, and I have my bar in the top hole on the axle mount, you need to keep the panhard bar as parallel as you can to the drag link, for it to work properly, I even used a small spacer to set the drag link up a little bit to make them parallel, I'll get a pic in a few.
and in a roll or the axle coming up on one side not the other it clears great.
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Old 04-23-2013, 04:34 PM   #15
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I have a VP CMS and panhard kit on my wraith, and from the looks of it the same shocks Gmade 103 piggybacks, my panhard bar touches the top mount at the same time the shocks bottom out, and I have my bar in the top hole on the axle mount, you need to keep the panhard bar as parallel as you can to the drag link, for it to work properly, I even used a small spacer to set the drag link up a little bit to make them parallel, I'll get a pic in a few.
and in a roll or the axle coming up on one side not the other it clears great.
definitely want to see what you are working with.. im running mine on the mount closer to the axle but i do know the parallel rule.. i also put foam on the top of frame\servo and the on the axles so when i bottom out its doesnt sound so bad!!! but no real flex issues either
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Old 04-23-2013, 05:37 PM   #16
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my camera died I'll get better pics later when the batt charges, the first pics are when I installed it, see how the bars are parallel, and flexed shocks not bottomed but there is lots of room both ways, the pics tonight you can see the bar clears, with the shocks bottomed, the end on the panhard bar touches the top of the mount just as the shocks bottom, I could grind a little off the mount so it did not touch, but unless I'm jumping it I figure it will never touch.
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Old 04-23-2013, 06:49 PM   #17
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Ive got the vp cms/panhard setup with the short proline slash front shocks and the panhard hits the upper link truss. It looks to me that a slight bend added to panhard bar would solve my issue, but ive got dinky S link mounts to put on now
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Old 04-23-2013, 06:52 PM   #18
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I moved the shocks to the center hole and it solved the problem! Thanks guys I knew there was a reason I post on here! ;)
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Old 04-23-2013, 08:53 PM   #19
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Or you can toss the panhard bar and keep the cms. The bumpsteer is not that bad.
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Old 04-25-2013, 07:06 AM   #20
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I had to limit my shocks so upon compression they stopped just before the truss and servo smacked each other.

still crawls fine.
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