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Old 08-06-2013, 12:33 PM   #1
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Question 3S motor/esc setups?

wanting to run 3S 2200 or 3S 1300.

most interested in BL sensored setups: motors, and esc. but also interested in brushed 3S setups.

please post what you got

motor (kv or turns)
esc
pinion/spur (if you remember)

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Old 08-06-2013, 01:01 PM   #2
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tekin pro4 3300/mmp

3s 2200mah lipo

56/12 gearing on c3, 56/14 gearing on c2. i tweak the expo on the tx for a really gentle throttle curve, and for comps i'll even dial back the throttle epa quite a bit.
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For the last several years all my stuff has run on 3S 2100mAh packs.


motor: Tekin Pro4 3300kv
esc: Mamba Max Pro
pinion/spur: 10/56 (32 pitch)
Unbelievable amounts of torque and speed. Good crawability but a bit jumpy even with the throttle curve tamed down below 1/2 throttle. It's fun but stay away unless you like breaking any moving parts. Chews up and spits out mud, truck pulls, and high speed stuff and dares you to bring more.


motor: Holmes Hobbies Torquemaster Pro 21T brushed
esc: BRXL and Sidewinder
pinion/spur: 16/84 (48 pitch)
Decent torque and great speed. Decent crawability but a bit jumpy. It makes a lightweight rig a blast to rock race with but make sure you like catching air and breaking plastic housings. Not enough torque for mud or TTC style events without a great risk of burning up, but a really fun G6 or rock racing motor.


motor: Holmes Hobbies Torquemaster Pro 35T brushed
esc: BRXL and Sidewinder
pinion/spur: 16/84 (48 pitch)
Great torque and decent speed. Good crawability with lots of punch to pop over obstacles. Makes for a very agile lightweight rig and works well with heavy rigs also. Not fast enough for G6 style or TTC style events in my opinion.


motor: Holmes Hobbies Trailmaster BL540 13.5T
esc: Mamba Max Pro
pinion/spur: 10/56 (32 pitch)
I have not run this in a rig yet but it's getting ready to go in. I feel that this will be a good alternative to the pinion busting power of the Pro4 with enough power to get the job done and be fun to drive. Based on the 2500kv rating I expect it will have more top end than the 35T brushed for G6 style events but have more torque and control than the 21T brushed for SORRCA style crawling courses. I hope it has enough torque for TTC events and since it is brushless I can waterproof it for better reliability than a brushed motor for extended mud and water use.

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Old 08-06-2013, 02:26 PM   #4
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now THATS a tech post!

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Tekin Redline 13.5 (3500kv)
MMP
3S 1300 40c (it's all I can fit in my buggy! blah)
14/56 (32 pitch) pinion/spur

If I am hammering fast, I get about 1/2 out of a battery, but if I take her easy, I have gotten an hour.
I have 3 batteries, and I usually get bored before all are drained.
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wanting to run 3S 2200 or 3S 1300.

most interested in BL sensored setups: motors, and esc. but also interested in brushed 3S setups.

please post what you got

motor (kv or turns)
esc
pinion/spur (if you remember)

thanks!
God damn it, do I have to tell you to read the stickies too?


These are your best choices, in my prefered order:
  1. ROC412 3100KC & MMP
  2. Pro4 300 & MMP
  3. 13.5 & MMP

I ran all of those on 3s 2200 packs with great success.
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Old 08-06-2013, 03:42 PM   #7
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i noticed everyone mentioning 32p. that hadnt even crossed my mind. good tip.

im not wanting to replace parts everytime i go out, but i want alot more power than what im used to.
BRXL, HH45T, and stockish gearing (maybe 16T or 18T pinion over stock 14T (all 48p)
i want about double the power/wheel speed i have now. for a fun basher, not comps. but i dont want to have to go home early every time because i snaped the axles and driveline in half.

it looks like most everyone is saying 3300 kv is overkill.
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Guess it depends on your definition of overkill. I run the pro4 4000 on 3s and thinking about getting the pro4 HD 4300 to try.
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I run a tekin RS with 13.5t redline. Has been great for everything I do with it. All metal drive train. I wouldn't mind goin bigger. As when I'm standing still it just isn't enough! Lol.. 56/11 32p gears/gearing
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I run:
Motor - 3656sd 4 pole 3400kv sensored
Esc - hobbywing short course pro (I would recommend a mmp though, I got a smokin deal on my esc)
Battery - 2200mah 3s
Gearing - 11/60
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i noticed everyone mentioning 32p. that hadnt even crossed my mind. good tip.

im not wanting to replace parts everytime i go out, but i want alot more power than what im used to.
BRXL, HH45T, and stockish gearing (maybe 16T or 18T pinion over stock 14T (all 48p)
i want about double the power/wheel speed i have now. for a fun basher, not comps. but i dont want to have to go home early every time because i snaped the axles and driveline in half.

it looks like most everyone is saying 3300 kv is overkill.

If you aren't wanting to replace a majority of the drivetrain then you need to go with the Tekin 13.5 and MMP. The Pro4 and ROC motors will require a much larger amount of upgrades in comparison as the torque is much higher.
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being used to the 45T and vehicle about the speed of a brisk walk. im wondering if simply going to a 27T would suffice? that would be pretty close to doubling the wheel speed right?

what about the 4 pole SCt motors? they require major upgrades too?
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being used to the 45T and vehicle about the speed of a brisk walk. im wondering if simply going to a 27T would suffice? that would be pretty close to doubling the wheel speed right?

what about the 4 pole SCt motors? they require major upgrades too?
Anything with 4 poles will be a torque motor, that's what the PRO4 and ROC are. I feel the same as Harley, motors like that will need drivetrain upgrades so if you don't want to spend a bunch of money stick to a 2 pole like the Holmes BL540 13.5Tor the Tekin Redline 13.5T.

The 45T motor is listed at 1210 rpm/volt, the 27T is listed at 2100 rpm/volt, so yes you will be very close to doubling the speed. The Holmes 13.5T brushless will be around 2500 kv (rpm/volt) so that will actually double your speed. The Tekin 13.5T is 3500 kv so that will give you a lot more speed.

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being used to the 45T and vehicle about the speed of a brisk walk. im wondering if simply going to a 27T would suffice? that would be pretty close to doubling the wheel speed right?

what about the 4 pole SCt motors? they require major upgrades too?
Would you go read the damn stickies already. This is literally all covered on the first page of each one. Damn noobies.
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it looks like most everyone is saying 3300 kv is overkill.
i havent tried the roc motors, but i really like the 3300 pro4. its not like its ALOT of overkill... its just a little overkill.

if i was going to buy a brushless motor right freaking now, it would be the 3100 roc412.
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Would you go read the damn stickies already. This is literally all covered on the first page of each one. Damn noobies.
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Would you go read the damn stickies already. This is literally all covered on the first page of each one. Damn noobies.
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Here's a budget combo for ya. I tested out my xl-5 and 12t titan on 3s in my ridgecrest today. It was a monster. I have no idea how long it would last though.
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The 13.5 (3500kv) motor will be more then enough for what you are talking about. My setup goes faster then I can run, and has plenty of torque. My drivetrain has been beefed up just to be safe. Pretty solid and reliable setup.
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Pro4 3300
MMP
I'll be the odd ball here....
RRP 80T spur
RRP 17T pinion
Needed to trim some off the stock gear box to get the pinion mesh good.
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