Axial Universal or Vanquish VVD ?

[stone202]

Like most everyone on here i've started my own Wraith build
I'm wondering about Axle shafts though. From what i've seen looks like most people are going with the Axial Universals or Vanquish VVd's.

Is there either benefit to each one?

Axial Universals cost a lot less and I think the Vanquish VVD's aren't much to be used in conjunction with the Vanquish lockers. Correct me if i'm wrong.

Just wondering what your guys/gals opinions are on each one. If its worth buying the VVD's (i don't currently have the lockers) or should I just go with the Axial Universals?

Thanks in advance.

[k7zpj]

I would go with the Axial Universals. They are about 1/3 the price and they work fine. If do break or wear out a set, you can buy another set and still be under the cost of the VP VVDs.

[STANG KILLA SS]

axial universals. cheaper and stronger.

[2Crawl]

The updated Axial axles are AR60 OCP universal axle set. Those came with the Axial Wraith kit that I got 3 weeks ago and allow 50 degrees of steering.

I use the Vanquish lockers and used the updated AR60 OCP universal axle set that came with the Axial Wraith kit. Yes these are the ones that allow 50 degrees of steering

Good luck!

[stone202]

Thanks guys! Was pretty set on the axial ones due to price but just wanted to ask !

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[WHITE-TRASH]

VVD's are for poseurs that have to slather their rig in VP parts so they look cool to their friends. Axial universals are for people that actually run their junk hard and want the best not what is the shiniest.

[Tmaxxed]

I put the vanquish vvds in my wraith. I bought them cause I thought they were the best. They've held up to a Pro4 3300 So far on 2s. But I just recently switched to 3s so we'll see now.

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[allanon1965]

Originally Posted by WHITE-TRASH

VVD's are for poseurs that have to slather their rig in VP parts so they look cool to their friends. Axial universals are for people that actually run their junk hard and want the best not what is the shiniest.

thats a rather broad stroke to paint everyone who chooses Vanquish Parts with. I assure you I am no "poser" and the VP stuff I have bought so far has been very durable and a good value for my hard earned money, I also happen to like the way their products look and I dont need to impress anyone. Let alone friends or anyone on internet forums.

I buy what appeals to me, whether it be VP, Integy, Axial, HR or whatever.

I do research and decide what will work best for me with the way I use my rig.

[Absurd]

Originally Posted by WHITE-TRASH

VVD's are for poseurs that have to slather their rig in VP parts so they look cool to their friends. Axial universals are for people that actually run their junk hard and want the best not what is the shiniest.

I agreed and disagree with this, yes alot have done this, but this year alone in the local place I rock crawl at we snappd about 6 total vanquish axles most at the threats for the nut and each time vanquish gave full replacement the 3x cost is worth it when it comes to this type of product, lastly you do not get surprised with oh look they did not stamp the pin in far enough and makes a clicking sound and limited steering.


side note if your going to abuse your rig the vvd is really good choice if your going to crawl and sometimes bash or not bash at all go cheep.

[Abrown83]

Im in the process of getting VVDs as I snapped the stock universals on a 35t 3s setup..... wasnt happy.

[WHITE-TRASH]

Originally Posted by allanon1965

thats a rather broad stroke to paint everyone who chooses Vanquish Parts with. I assure you I am no "poser" and the VP stuff I have bought so far has been very durable and a good value for my hard earned money, I also happen to like the way their products look and I dont need to impress anyone. Let alone friends or anyone on internet forums.

I buy what appeals to me, whether it be VP, Integy, Axial, HR or whatever.

I do research and decide what will work best for me with the way I use my rig.

Originally Posted by Absurd

I agreed and disagree with this, yes alot have done this, but this year alone in the local place I rock crawl at we snappd about 6 total vanquish axles most at the threats for the nut and each time vanquish gave full replacement the 3x cost is worth it when it comes to this type of product, lastly you do not get surprised with oh look they did not stamp the pin in far enough and makes a clicking sound and limited steering.


side note if your going to abuse your rig the vvd is really good choice if your going to crawl and sometimes bash or not bash at all go cheep.

I love VP parts and 2 out of 3 rigs have plenty of their parts but they aren't the only manufacturer worth owning either. Their fan boy followers are just easy picking when I'm feeling froggy.

All 3 of my rigs have ar60's, 2 have universals and one has VVD's. I've broken a VVD, the universals are simple and if you have an issue with a pin not being in far enough don't feel bad about tapping it in with a hammer. Universals turn sharper too, with the old version you have to grind on them for more steering but the new ones it's a plug and play. No breakage of a universal as of yet and I suck at driving.

[rcmedic]

Universals have held up to tekin 3500kc pro 4 HD on 3s no problems.

[evan03]

im pretty much always poor and drift in and out of the hobby depending on the season, so you most likely not ever see anything with vp stamp on my rig.

with that said I run more power then about 95% of wraith owners. 1/8 scale 4 pole motor on 6s with 2650 watts plus. ive broken pretty much everything but the universals.

if you dig deeper the vp shafts don't have that great of reviews but if they replace them for free who cares if they break

[rcmedic]

Originally Posted by evan03

im pretty much always poor and drift in and out of the hobby depending on the season, so you most likely not ever see anything with vp stamp on my rig.

with that said I run more power then about 95% of wraith owners. 1/8 scale 4 pole motor on 6s with 2650 watts plus. ive broken pretty much everything but the universals.

if you dig deeper the vp shafts don't have that great of reviews but if they replace them for free who cares if they break

Nicely put. Just the universal design is superior in strength over a CV.

[2Crawl]

Originally Posted by WHITE-TRASH

VVD's are for poseurs that have to slather their rig in VP parts so they look cool to their friends. Axial universals are for people that actually run their junk hard and want the best not what is the shiniest.

What the f are you talking about?!?


I have no friends..........and my rig has yet to turn a wheel. A poser to me is someone that get a SF tat and was only a clerk......

[shakemandril]

I have vanquish VVD's in my wraith and run a ROC 412 3100kv on 3s no problem. I really like the increased turning radius and have had zero problems with them.

[WHITE-TRASH]

Originally Posted by 2Crawl

What the f are you talking about?!?


I have no friends..........and my rig has yet to turn a wheel. A poser to me is someone that get a SF tat and was only a clerk......

Poseurs build rigs with the most expensive stuff they can find and gingerly drive their rigs if they drive them at all. They just want to brag about their big budget build rather than put the money where it counts so they can actually drive it.



I have a hunch those speaking about the increased turning radius of the vvd's has gone from stock dog bone & cup axles to vvd's so they did in fact gain steering. Vvd's don't turn as sharp as universals though and they will break at full lock. The repair to this vvd is the same cost as buying universals.

[mammoth]

I have broken the Axial uni's the vvd's with a pro4 on 3s. I have lots of VP parts but will never buy another vvd as they aren't as strong as the Axial uni's. Now the only axle I have installed that has lasted is the super 300hd's. You want beef there you go!!! Since I have installed those I don't even thinks twice about binds or launching my rig 10 feet n the air. I have seen two Axial uni's snap in the same bind I drove out of. Hard to find ... yes... worth it definately for the piece of mind they give!!!

[tom@vp]

Ill put the vvds up against axials any day in any test for any $ amount of a bet.

[tom@vp]

here it comes ...